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MCVExit redux: I don't need a milkshake to know when I've missed the mark

A week ago, I had an idea: change a URL with thousands of outstanding uses and try to replace an awkward initialism with... Another awkward made-up word. ...Ok, that was... not a great idea. ...
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Why should I provide a Minimal Reproducible Example for a very simple SQL query?

I've asked a question about a simple SQL query, and now some users are telling me that I need to include a Minimal, Reproducible Example (MRE/MCVE). Obviously I've read the help pages, but my question ...
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Trigger MCVE error on paste.ofcode.org

There are 263 posts containing paste.ofcode.org, some of which are questions not providing any MCVE. The site itself states “Your code is always private, and always expires in one week.”. Thus, most ...
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What more can be done to prevent questions with just external links/images?

Lots of people believe that their job is actually useless - and knowing your jobs are meaningless makes people depressed. That's how it feels to have to try to vote to close and/or edit questions that ...
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Please blacklist expirebox.com

Same reasoning as Trigger MCVE error on paste.ofcode.org: the content of https://expirebox.com is always temporary, and as such has a negative value for Stack Overflow. Current usage: 80 posts
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What should a 'minimal, reproducible example' include for problems with automating web browsers using Selenium?

I've been cruising the C# selenium questions for quite some time now. I frequently find myself down-voting these questions and voting to close them as needing details or clarity, or needing debugging ...
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Why is MCVE so utterly beautiful? If yes, can we put it more places, or make it more bright and garish and attention seeky?

I recently came across a comment including: How to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example And I realised I have never come across it before, which seems odd given the amount of time I've ...
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"[mcve]" should magic-link to "Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example" help page [duplicate]

Good quality code examples are the bedrock of Stack Overflow and I'd like to make linking to the Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example help page even easier. Please can we add a magic link so ...
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Should the MCVE page advise against pictures of text? [duplicate]

I tend to see a lot of questions like this one where askers post or link to pictures of text rather than providing directly usable test data. This is lazy and creates tedious extra work for anyone ...
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If this is not minimal, what's minimal?

It took me a lot of effort and energy to break down a multi threaded TLS application into a single threaded minimal application. I made sure that any one can build and run my minimal example without ...
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What does MCVE mean?

I did a search for related questions and found this question. However that's not the same thing and doesn't answer what MCVE actually stands for. What does it mean in the context of these questions? ...
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Add fragment identifiers to MCVE page sections for easy linking

Sometimes, when I link to the MCVE page, I want to highlight one specific aspect using a fragment identifier. For instance, a question be minimal and complete, but not verifiable. It would be nice to ...
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How to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example for C# UI related questions?

I understand that it is necessary to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example when posting questions to StackOverflow. However, when dealing with UI related questions such as WinForms in ...
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Asker refuses to keep MCVE

This is the question in question (10k only). Originally, it contained just a code fragment, referencing many names that weren't defined in the question. I prompted the user for an MCVE and they ...
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Why should I post complete errors? Why isn't the message itself enough?

I have a shell script that fails saying there's no such file or directory. This error message seems clear to me, but when I post about it, I'm being asked to include the full and complete error ...
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Should an MCVE include boilerplate that's not required just because people incorrectly think it is?

A question came up in which the asker demonstrated cross-browser rendering differences between two complete HTML documents, one with a DOCTYPE: <!DOCTYPE html> <img style="width: 100%; ...
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How to have a "minimal reproducible example" with Vulkan

I feel it's impossible to give a minimal reproducible example for Vulkan without dumping an entire GitHub repository into Stack Overflow, with a monstrosity of a question. In normal circumstances, ...
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Typo on the MCVE page

Just a small thing, but there is inconsistency in the dash width on the MCVE page: For those who can't see the minuscule difference (it's the hyphen after "Verifiable"). Who can fix this, and ...
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How can I ask this question without resorting to third-party file sharing?

I'm working on a program to process a set of PDF files. I'm having trouble and would like to get some assistance on Stack Overflow. In order to show what kind of problems I'm encountering, I need ...
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Could we add a tag-specific MRE page?

Update Based on all the comments and on Shepmaster's answer, I think perhaps it would be better to have an MRE Guideline page (that might include templates) instead of a MRE template page for each tag....
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Should we add an example in how to MCVE?

New users usually fail to post an MCVE, despite helpful commentary linking to How to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example. I am thinking why.. Could the link be more helpful by ...
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Should code from pastebin be edited into a question?

Sometimes when I review edits in the Suggested Edits queue, code or text from a linked pastebin is edited into the question. Is this encouraged? Should this be approved?
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If your MCVE is still somewhat large, is it OK to post a link to github? [duplicate]

I was recently having a problem with an asynchronous server written in C++. I extracted the relevant code from my project, stripped it down to what I believed was a minimal, complete, verifiable ...
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Answering questions using own MCVE

I often come across questions where the user has not provided a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example. Even after I comment that they should read the relevant section on the Help Center and edit ...
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Minimum working example in Django

The intention of this question is to better understand how to properly ask questions on SO. I have been reading SO for quite some time, and have not been posting that much as I was afraid of being ...
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Can we introduce the concept of a MCVE to people before they even have a question?

The concept of a minimal, complete, and verifiable example is actually pretty tricky. It's entirely learnable, and most experienced Stack Overflow users have probably internalized it, but it's still ...
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What was our stance about short, self-contained examples again?

I'm on the fence about this one. On the one hand, I'm all for MCVEs. Having the OP make me scroll through pages and pages of code, most of which is completely irrelevant to the problem, is not a ...
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Please make /help/mre symlink to /help/mcve

If MRE is now (ever since the "reprex" brouhaha) the official term for what used to be called MCVE, could we please also link https://stackoverflow.com/help/mre to the pertinent help page? ...
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How can I make my question meet MCVE guidelines?

Firstly, I want to make clear that I do think the guidelines regarding creating a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example are reasonable. They obviously help increase the quality of the site, and ...
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Deep learning questions almost never have minimal reproducible examples

I've noticed a recurring issue that I believe we can improve upon. Admittedly, I'm not entirely sure what the solutions should be, but I think that these problems should be outlined. Within SO's ML ...
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Why are questions based on misunderstanding about a tool closed as "no longer reproducible"?

I fail to understand why this question is closed as "no longer reproducible" and now deleted: https://stackoverflow.com/q/63980654 (link for users who don't have 10k reputation) Yes, it is ...
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Where should "How to create a good reproducible example in ...?" questions reside?

A year or so ago, I contributed to the Stack Overflow documentation pages of shiny, where there was a good example on how to create a good shiny Minimal, Complete and Verifiable Example (MCVE). I used ...
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Trigger MRE error on ctxt.io

There are 20 posts containing a link to ctxt.io, some of which are questions not providing any minimal reproducible example. The site itself states “This paste expires in <30 days.”. Thus, most ...
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Closing as lacking debugging details gives an unhelpful message to the poster [duplicate]

I just noticed that if a question is closed as lacking debugging details/minimum verifiable example, then the poster just get this unhelpful message in their face: Closed. This question needs ...
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How can I improve my iOS MREs?

I've been a member for quite some time now, mostly in Java programming, trying to move into iOS programming now. When asking questions in Java, I exactly knew what was needed to count as an MRE, ...
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Change "mwe" explanation from "minimal workable example" to "minimal working example"?

I was reading the Minimal Reproducible Example page and I noticed that for some reason the mwe acronym is spelled out as "minimal workable example". However, I believe that "minimal working example" ...
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Help center: search for 'mcve' does not return the mcve help page

Phase one: I was misspelling the term as 'MVCE' instead of 'MCVE'. It's part of the story; take a chair and listen. Something I noticed that struck me as wrong and certainly not cute: I needed the ...
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Should we close-vote questions that we cannot reproduce on our machines?

This is about the V in MCVE. Premise You see a standard question for debugging support. Done right and by the book, it has a problem statement, sample input, expected output, actual output and a ...
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Streamlining the MRE page

I rarely link to the MRE page to an experienced programmer (even if that happens from time to time), so I think it's important that the page is as concise and simple as possible. Shortening it will ...
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How can we solve the problem of inaccessible local images in a code snippet?

Problem Every day on SO, I come across questions sharing a stack snippet that has local images in it, which makes the images inaccessible and the problem irreproducible. While this is not always a ...
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Questions where the code could be made more minimal, but only once the answer is known

In Why does an array update corrupt the element value?, a user commented the following after someone else has pretty much given the solution in a comment (the problem was an incomplete sensitivity ...
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Get rid of the Alphabet Soup of Abbreviations for Minimal, Reproducible Example in the Help Center

OK, do we really need all this in the Help Center? This is called creating a minimal, reproducible example (reprex), a minimal, complete and verifiable example (mcve), or a minimal, workable example (...
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"Burninate" footnote in MCVE page

Visiting the How to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example page, I found there is a tiny footnote that is almost impossible to read (or maybe my eyesight is failing me): Quote for ...
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MCVE survives in an auto-generated text on SO

I just noticed that the text for a question put on hold as 'no longer reproducible' (e.g. int minus unsigned long has unexpected results — now only visible to 10k users as it has, correctly, been ...
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Questions about GPL’d code

It is not legal to take GPL code and re-license it under CC-BY-SA, and fair-use is settled on a case-by-case basis in the US and may change from country to country. That means that it is not known to ...
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How can I add a Minimal Reproducible Example if I think I've already added one?

I had a post where I was asked to produce a MRE (Minimal, Reproducible Example). My case is such that I couldn't produce one, as the code having the compilation error was not faulty in itself. The ...
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How to provide a complex minimal code example?

On multiple occasions I asked a question, and people asked for example code. Often the nature of the problem called for a relatively complex example, with multiple files, sometimes in different ...
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Mention online compilers on the Minimal, Reproducible Example page?

(Note: This is mainly motivated by what I observe in the C++ tag - other tags may have different experiences - please share!) Many times a day we link people to the Minimal, Reproducible Example site....
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Need an MCVE be production-quality?

Based on my interpretation of https://stackoverflow.com/help/mcve, example code should be short, only containing enough to clearly and accurately reproduce the problem at hand. I recently posted Why ...
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Improve the MCVE description: say a MCVE should "do exactly one thing"

Problem: Many users post code for a MCVE that does too much. Let's say, for example, a program reads from a file, replaces some characters with other characters, replaces some other characters, ...
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