Recently, I've noticed some contention — and simple miscommunication — over when 'red' flags ('spam' and 'rude or abusive') should be cast on Stack Overflow, and how moderators should handle them. Here's what we're talking about:
This really shouldn't be a surprise. Flags in general, and especially spam/rude flags, are a very niche area of the site for most folks. Additionally, Stack Overflow has a whole bunch of moderators. At these scales, clear communication and coordination becomes difficult.
I'll keep it short. I believe we all agree that spam (skin care, anyone?) should be flagged as spam — so we don't need to debate that. I've picked out the areas that moderators, and the community, don't seem to be aligned on:
red flags on gibberish - including keyboard mashes, like this one. There's prior discussion here, but as recently as this week I've seen a moderator rejecting the conclusions reached there and handling flags differently.
spam flags on gibberish — assuming red flags in general are appropriate on keyboard mashes, are spam flags kosher? (Read the facts section before deciding)
spam flags on abusive posts — like (NSFW) this. If the point of a post is to compare the OP, OP's mom, Java, Trump, or any number of targets to human and/or equine excrement, I suspect we'd agree that an abusive flag is warranted. Is a spam flag kosher?
I'd like to ask the community's, and others moderators', opinions on when and how these should be cast and handled. The goal here is to reach agreement, if not consensus, on how these should be used, and to create a clear reference for users and moderators alike.
To help in this, here are some facts:
The system treats these two flags entirely identically. There is no difference in how signal is fed to blocking mechanisms, how they're prioritized in the flag queue (the URL filter parameter is literally named
spamoffensive
), or anything other than pronunciation. The only difference is the label that shows up in the flag queue.Shog's answer here supports a philosophy of "gibberish is bad, just delete it". It's easy to extend this to "don't overthink the flags, just handle the content"
Community projects, like automated flagging, would require a lot of work to respect any kind of forced dichotomy between the two flag types. From the perspective of these projects, there's no gain to be had from forcing the 'correct' flag be used on posts — just a ton of work. See Pops' comment on the matter:
It's... hard... to argue in favor of writing an algorithm and making a bot spend time calculating which of the two flag types to use when they are, in actuality, the exact same flag. It's not even Coke vs. Pepsi, it's Pepsi vs. a second bottle of Pepsi that's using a different but still valid Pepsi logo.