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In our blog post last month on our Community & Public Platform strategy & roadmap for Q1 2021, we announced an initiative to address outdated answers on Stack Overflow. Today, I'll give you more information on our approach and how we will solicit your feedback.

Why outdated answers? Why now?

Finding correct and complete answers is the reason users visit Stack Overflow. The vast majority of our users come from organic search by googling their issues and clicking to Stack Overflow to find answers. On top of that, there is a large and passionate volunteer community — I'm looking at you, Meta — that cares deeply about ensuring that the question-and-answer artifacts on the site are of the highest quality.

Yet, we have heard through a variety of feedback mechanisms — from Meta to internal staff — that outdated answers are an issue. According to our Site Satisfaction survey, 13.8% of users say that answer quality is one of the top things that they find most frustrating/unappealing about the site.

If Stack Overflow users can't quickly find working solutions to their problems, this is kind of an existential crisis. Good answers to questions is fundamentally the value that we provide to the developer community.

So the why is pretty obvious. But why now vs. why not yesterday vs. why not eight years ago?

The first thing we did to kick off the project was read through Meta. It quickly became apparent that this is not a new issue. There are many discussions, going back many years, with many thoughtful suggestions about potential solutions. (If you're curious, you can find a subset of relevant Meta posts at the bottom of this discussion.)

I can't talk about why we didn't prioritize it then because I wasn't on the team — but I can speculate. It's a hard problem, and hard problems are easy targets for procrastination. And the urgency of solving it for a two-year-old site or a six-year-old site is different from the urgency of solving it for a 12-year-old site. And, frankly, for a time, Stack Overflow and the rest of the Stack Exchange sites were under-resourced from a product-development perspective.

But the past is the past. This year, we decided that it's time. Stack Overflow's senior leadership team laid out our 2021 objective to measure and improve overall community and content health. And the Public Platform team decided that one of the best ways to meet that objective is to focus on keeping content as accurate and up-to-date as possible.

We're starting with product discovery — and listening to you

Rather than jumping straight into implementing some of the solutions you've proposed, we are focusing initially on product discovery. We want to make sure we:

  • understand the problem really well, so we can build the right solutions.

  • attempt to quantify the problem using a data-driven approach.

To do this, we will be reaching out on Meta during discovery to let you know what we're working on and to ask for your feedback. No one knows the problem better than you, so we are all ears.

When we get to the solution phase, we will conduct UX research, share early designs, keep you abreast of experiments and let you know what's launching when.

How do we define outdated content?

Our first step will be identifying, with your help, what constitutes an outdated answer and what type of outdated answer is most prevalent on our site. So far, Meta has told us there are different flavors of outdated answers. There are answers that:

  • become obsolete as new versions of frameworks become available.

  • still work, but there is now a newer, better way to achieve the same end.

  • maybe were never the best, but the question askers accepted them and forever bestowed the green check mark.

  • now pose security risks or provide code that no longer works.

  • still hold value to a subset of developers who use legacy technology, but aren't valuable to developers on newer technologies.

We will be gathering this information by adding a few questions to our site satisfaction survey. Check out this post where we ask for your input on the proposed questions.

How will we surface outdated content?

Identifying stale or outdated content is a hard problem to solve, and we know there isn't a silver-bullet solution here. It will likely require a mix of automation and user intervention. But we hope to identify some heuristics that make it easier to narrow down the universe of possibly outdated answers.

We're in early discovery, so we don't have a solution defined yet on how we'll surface outdated content. However, once we have a defined list of use cases, we want to explore ways in which we can get help from the community to label content as outdated so that we can begin training a machine-learning model as a complement to manually flagging content.

There is a lot of nuance to each answer and the amount of expertise required to evaluate answers for any given tag or technology. Leveraging the community's collective knowledge here will help us get the best data set we possibly can.

As with any training exercise, failure is always a possible outcome. Either way, we'll share our learnings along the way.

We are tackling Stack Overflow first

We are focusing our initial research efforts on Stack Overflow, and not on other sites on the Stack Exchange network. We understand that the issue with outdated answers is not exclusive to Stack Overflow and other technical sites may have similar issues.

However, none of the other sites operate at the scale of Stack Overflow: more than 31 million answers, compared to 11 million for the rest of the network. And Stack Overflow is our oldest site, so it is the site where the pain is most acute.

Rather than trying to shoot for a one-size-fits-all solution that may actually fit none, we are laser-focused on uncovering the Stack Overflow use cases and coming up with initial solutions that work really well for Stack Overflow.

Stay tuned for other activity TBD

We are currently mapping out other discovery tasks we will undertake in the near future, and we will reach out to Meta when we have new updates and requests. Our future posts will have the , , and tags.

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Meta literature review

There are many posts on the topic of outdated answers, but here are some of the ones we discovered while doing our initial research.

Any initial feedback?

We're not locking in on any particular solutions yet, as we are more focused on understanding the what and why vs. jumping straight into the how. But we welcome any initial thoughts and reactions regarding the project overall, past experiences, or ideas you have about ways to attack this problem as answers below.

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    Nothing is ever obsolete, there's always someone out there working with tech that's old because they have to... I look forward to seeing what potential solutions you come up with that can get the right answers to the right people Feb 18, 2021 at 16:42
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    Looks like some good research was done here, nice to see! Here's another discussion for the pile - arguably one of the first BIG discussions on the matter: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/103053/…
    – Shog9
    Feb 18, 2021 at 16:57
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    Any initial feedback? Yes: Wow! This is gonna be a Herculean task, as you clearly understand, but it's absolutely fantastic that S.E. Inc. is embracing the problem. Can I create some sock-puppet accounts, so I can upvote this post some more? Feb 18, 2021 at 17:06
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    Love the tone and style of this communication :-) Thank you.
    – QHarr
    Feb 18, 2021 at 22:39
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    @Nick: I think you're conflating "obsolete tech" with "obsolete answers". Answers pointing out the lack of a solution to a problem can be rendered obsolete by the introduction of new tech that either purposefully or incidentally solves the problem. Of course, the original content would remain relevant to legacy environments that a reader might rely on. But they'd still need to be updated with the new information.
    – BoltClock
    Feb 19, 2021 at 6:08
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    My instinct is that the machine learning approach is unlikely to succeed, there's surely far too much variation in what defines an obsolete answer to get anything like a useful set of training data? Hopefully the machine learning bit will be a nice-to-have stretch goal, rather than something that serious time is invested in, before quicker wins are accomplished.
    – DPWork
    Feb 19, 2021 at 8:10
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    I always liked the sorting by age-weighted votes a lot but it was never implemented. In the simplest variant one could for example just sort by the votes in the last X months. I really hope it may get a chance this time.
    – Trilarion
    Feb 19, 2021 at 9:09
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    @BoltClock "Answers pointing out the lack of a solution to a problem can be rendered obsolete by the introduction of new tech" - That only makes the answer obsolete to people who have access to said tech, the answer is still relevant to those who do not Feb 19, 2021 at 11:37
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    If quickly finding solutions to problems is the challenge, I wonder if the search functionality of SO should also be part of the discussion? Or is the assumption that people use google and arrive at the right questions and then only need to find the right answer within the right Q&A pair?
    – Trilarion
    Feb 19, 2021 at 12:02
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    I am absolutely stoked about how you're tackling this task. That was such a great write-up, and it's really nice that you're coming to the community early in the process. Honestly it feels to me like you've thought of everything I could think of suggesting. Even your category break-downs are excellent. Thank you. Feb 20, 2021 at 7:28
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    "...there is a large and passionate volunteer community — I'm looking at you, Meta — that cares deeply about ensuring that the question-and-answer artifacts on the site are of the highest quality." I just want to point out that the large and passionate volunteer community does not 100% intersect with the Meta community. I come to Meta when I see an interesting Hot Post or whatever on the side bar, but I rarely participate more than an occasional comment or vote. However, I'm very committed to the quality and purpose of main. Please make sure you reach out in other ways besides Meta posts.
    – MattDMo
    Feb 21, 2021 at 20:30
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    Whatever happened to the "get rid of crappy questions project"?
    – mxmissile
    Feb 23, 2021 at 15:38
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    Could we rename outdated to legacy. Many of the answers which reference old versions of software are very handy for maintenance of legacy systems. It is not uncommon that systems run on legacy software or have been written in it and have been designed 20+ years ago. These "outdate" answers are not outdated, they are extremely relevant for such a systems. Legacy might be a better name here.
    – kvantour
    Feb 24, 2021 at 6:56
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    @kvantour Anita is already clearly differentiating legacy answers from other kinds of outdated answers, in the section How do we define outdated content? Yes, we want to keep those (useful) legacy answers, but we want them to be easier for people using legacy systems to find, but also we don't want those answers clogging up searches for the majority of people who are looking for newer answers. Of course, what counts as legacy (and how best to deal with it) varies, depending on the language / framework.
    – PM 2Ring
    Feb 24, 2021 at 11:53
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    @gmoniava "...would be unfair to get downvotes to answers that were once correct." Why? Votes just means something is useful or not useful now. The past should play no role there. Voting is all about signalling to future visitors.
    – Trilarion
    Feb 25, 2021 at 22:58

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I am glad to see the possibility that the issue may be resolved.

I hope to provide some food for thought to the team dealing with this, rather than a solution or answer.

Herein is a random collection of thoughts, meant as feedback on the project goals. There is no intention of providing any developed plan, or plan of action. First, it's too early in the process to even do such, and secondly, I'm not versed enough in the back-end, or site mechanics to be able to propose

The "Grand Gesture"

This question has already disclosed the idea of handling outdated content. Therefore, there exists nothing to be gained by doing all the exploration, design, development and implementaion in secret and pulling a bif reveal as some kind of "Grand Gesture". Just work on it, keep users in the loop, post an update once in a while. It'd even be nice to know, once or twice, of an idea that was tried and failed - prove the team is willing to try, and willing to learn.

Keep it under control

Make small steps. Do things that probably have minimal impact, then build on them when they don't fail. Be ready, and know how, to roll back each step if it doesn't work as planned. Small steps, with small impact ought to also yield easy to monitor, and classify, metrics. The metric can help decide if the step was the right one, and to show progress to the users.

Leverage the power of the masses

There are a bunch of users here who are working on keeping the site clean. There has been a lot of posts on meta about the issue, as the question has sampled so generously for us. Find a way to allow interested users to opt-in at all phases. During discovery phases there is even the possibility that many users would be willing to work with a less than perfect UI, just to get this rolling. There are probably enough stats in the collected database on users to know which users are active in the curation for any tag, or group of tags. Use that data. (More on tags below.)

Reducing the workload

Reading, and thinking about, the list of flavors given, I think some of them can be passed over, or reduced.

The question listed different "flavors" of outdated answers:

  1. become obsolete as new versions of frameworks become available.

  2. still work, but there is now a newer, better way to achieve the same end.

  3. maybe were never the best, but the question askers accepted them and forever bestowed the green check mark.

  4. now pose security risks or provide code that no longer works.

  5. still hold value to a subset of developers who use legacy technology, but aren't valuable to developers on newer technologies.

maybe were never the best, but the question askers accepted them and forever bestowed the green check mark.

The third group is the easiest group to deal with.

Do nothing.

Such answers are not, based on the given criteria, "outdated". They may not be the best solution available, with or without competing answers. Comments and voting resolve the issue sufficiently, as they were designed to do. These answers may fall into a different group as well, and can be dealt with in the fashion of that group. (This presumes that the team doesn't decide that the "green check mark" is no longer a sacred cow and chooses to change something in how that works in a unilateral fashion, which I will touch on as the final part of my answer.)


still work, but there is now a newer, better way to achieve the same end.

The second group is almost the same as the first group, except that there is no check mark to deal with. If the old answer still works and a newer method has become available it is not an outdated answer, it is merely no longer the "best" answer. The solution is to write a new answer, showing the "new" method.

As an example of both the second and third groups in one case, see how things went on this question where the original answer(s) presented a simple, perhaps less than brilliant, solution. Later, 3 years later, the OP accepted a newer answer with more information, better explanations, sample codes, newer methods (including upcoming method in a newer version), and a significant amount of work. As I am unable, or don't know how, to see which answer(s) were accepted before the current one, I don't know how good, or bad, the first accepted one was, nor if there was a switch of accepted answer prior to the latest version. One comment suggests that the current accepted answer is not the first one accepted. As a case study, without the OP changing their acceptance or with the unpinning of accepted answers, it would still be the second answer in vote order.


now pose security risks or provide code that no longer works.

I'm doing a hand wave on the second half of the fourth group: "provide code that no longer works." I suspect that code which no longer works does not actually exist, without falling into the first or last group. If it worked in the past, and updated frameworks, languages, or products have removed it, it should still work in, at the minimum, the version in service at the time it was written. The very existence of Retrocomputing more or less proves that nothing in computers is ever "gone." The first half, security risk, remains to deal with.


become obsolete as new versions of frameworks become available.

still hold value to a subset of developers who use legacy technology, but aren't valuable to developers on newer technologies.

I'm considering the first group and the last group to be functionally equivalent. Legacy technologies and obsolete versions of frameworks are two phrases for the some concept, which includes older versions of languages, operating systems, editors, and anything else the site scope covers. Any answers from either group are operationally the equivalent in the context of cleaning up the site's collection of outdated answers.


So, in context of this proposal, there are only two groups do deal with:

  1. Answers which now, or even when written, pose security risks.

  2. Answers which have become obsolete as new versions of frameworks, languages, or other technologies become available, which still hold value to a subset of developers who use legacy technologies.


Tag grouping

Don't try to handle the entire project as a monolithic issue. Handle it as a collection of modules. Find a tag, one tag, that is likely to have issues with outdated answers. A language, a framework, or a product. If it has a fast release cycle then it's probably a good candidate for research. Take advantage of users with a significant amount of rep related to that one tag who are identified as active in curation in that tag. The rep level need not be gold-badge, or even bronze-badge, though it could be. Allow the users who have opted in to use something like the flag system to mark answers, in that tag, which are outdated. Collecting why it's outdated is pointless in discovery - either it is, or it is not. The same process can be applied to the search for unsafe answers, in a tag determined to be likely to have such.

The same process can be used on multiple tags at the same time, as long as the tags are unrelated. Treat each tag as its own project, unconnected to any other tag's process. Track metrics related to participation of the users, how often they actually flag a question relative to how often others have done so. Low participation? Find another tag. Good participation and low flag count? Probably a good tag to use in later testing. Good participation and high flag count? Mark that tag as one to get attention when the process is working, mostly.

Post notices

User edits, gold-badge or not, of old answers can lead to many problems. Edit wars being only one of them. Meta has plenty of examples, and I'm sure that others here, especially the team working on this, has seem more than I have, so I'll not bother linking to more than one. A post notice is less likely to be involved in a tug-of-war and has the benefit of being much more visible than what a user can do with edits. A post notice added to an outdated answer need not have any pointers, links, or other information in it - merely a notice, or warning, that the answer is outdated. One point to keep in mind about outdated answers is that they are still valid as long as the version of the associated technology to which they apply is still in service somewhere. The user base is probably loaded with people tasked with maintaing legacy (or Paleolithic) systems. Look what happened recently with the sudden increase in demand for COBOL developers.

Unsafe practices post notices

Answers offering unsafe practices, or code, as a solution to the question also ought to have a post notice. Importantly, in this case, the post notice needs to be distinct from other system-wide notices. These are, after all, serious warnings, not just advisory notices. They need to be harder to ignore than all the other post notices we have gotten used to skipping over when the page loads. Color change would be enough. Additionally, these notices need to have something in them to "validate" the warning - a link to an SO answer which explains it well, or the product's official notice of a vulnerability, etc. Close reasons, not matter how well worded are still based on an opinion. That the majority of the active users consider "Shopping-list" questions as POB is good enough for the site to close a question. It is still just the opinion of said users. A security warning, if one is going to be posted, needs to have objective, verifiable classification as a risk.

As an extra consideration, the wording of, and link(s) within, the post notice for unsafe answers should be written by, or at least under the strong guidence of, on-site SMEs, gold-badges perhaps.

Our "Sacred Cow"

Accepted answer treatment is a tradition here. I've not followed the debates about that here, and I'm sure there is plenty of it. I do know there are many supporters of the current status, and some who treat it like a religious war. For the most part I don't see the need to change that. "For the most part." I can envision that unpinning the accepted answer, when and if it is determined to be outdated, allowing the sorting to act like a self-answered question, might be helpful to future readers of the answer list. The psychology of voting on SO seems to favor the accepted answer, even when it is a short, low-quality answer with other, often multiple, well-written, well-documented and much better answers in the list. In the majority of cases, I doubt that unpinning the accepted answer would change the sort order anyway. I do think, however, that if the accepted answer is unpinned, either for being outdated as above, or as part of some other major overhaul, that the question be marked, prominately, as solved and include an highly visible link directly to the accepted answer.

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You ask for feedback. I came here because I was wondering what to do about a question (Getting fb.me URL) the accepted answer to which is now mostly incorrect. Once I got here, my first question/bit of feedback is around how we should collect feedback indicating that (due to the technological progress or the passage of time) some content (e.g. answers) are outdated. This is closely connected to defining and surface outdated content, but NOT the same thing...

There's no way for one to just provide this feedback*.

As far as I know, we don't have a defined best practice [clarification: that applies once we have the desired code functionality]. Perhaps a top priority for the community is to clarify best practice for what we do after we find the obsolete content that it's most important that we update. (Certainly how often its viewed should factor in!) The "Meta literature review" has good pointers, especially to What's the etiquette on updating an accepted answer? - but it's most valuable feedback is that the software needs tweaking to allow us to handle this situation better.

*Not good: Downvoting the obsolete answers to this question...

We COULD provide a better answer or edit the outdated one(s) (like by adding a header) to include the fact that it's obsolete. Sorry for any redundancy or repetitiveness.

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    Your answer isn’t that clear as to what exactly your suggestions are or what exactly your feedback is. To summarize, you’re saying that we need better tools and defined processes to “handle” outdated answers? But, as you said, that’s what we’ve already established in the “What’s the etiquette” question. Since then we’ve had a flagging exercise, the accepted answers have been unpinned, an age-weighted answer scoring is planned, etc. The tools are being discussed and made; we’re getting there. Do you have any specific feedback to those? Nov 20, 2021 at 2:08
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    Not quite what I was saying. I'm saying saying that what we’ve already established in the “What’s the etiquette” question is that the practice is says is good for now if we don't have code changes, isn't very good. I was responding to the OP(it was last edited Mar 12 - so it's outdated a bit?), not up on the situation changes since . Let me read the flagging exercise stuff; again sorry for any redundancy or repetitiveness. Nov 20, 2021 at 2:26
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The "Deprecate" Mechanism

Maybe we need a way for users to deprecate an answer because it is of lower quality than it used to be. Deprecating is similar to downvoting, but with a different meaning. It means the answer was once good but has become less valuable because the scenario posed by the question has been superseded by later releases of the related product.

In addition, maybe the deprecator could link to a newer, better answer.

Deprecation could eventually result in removal by cleanup people, or in transfer to some kind of attic or museum. Hopefully, the search engines could be given info to stop sending new searches to this answer.

Just an alternative.

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    Old does not equal lower quality! Many of us are stuck on legacy systems and still need the accepted answer to a question for an older version because it will solve our problem.
    – cb4
    Feb 28, 2021 at 5:14
  • Agreed. That's why deprecated and downvoted are different. Maybe deprecated is the wrong word. Feb 28, 2021 at 8:57
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According to data.stackexchange.com, there are 23M questions, 34M answers and 88M comments (some comments may contain answers) in round numbers about 70M artefacts that need surfacing for outdatedness. This is only going to be done automatically.

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    The auto tagging idea based on text mentions is a terrible one. For example: A front end web framework could be mentioned by name as being responsible for sending data to a server side back end but would be completely irrelevant if the issue is only back end related.
    – charlietfl
    Mar 7, 2021 at 16:01
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    Yes, but there is also an extreme power law at play. Even without the extreme duplication, plagiarism, and now ChatGPT, 99.99% of the value is probably in 0.01% of the content. Dec 21, 2022 at 1:36
  • Looked at as a whole this is all statistics, no one person knows the correct answer. A SME might know in their own field but a machine is only ever going to flag potentially out of date answers. I can not think of an example of something that is definitely out of date. Dec 21, 2022 at 7:18
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This new tag on Meta.SO may be needed to tag this and similar discussions:
- discussions of outdated questions and answers.

Note that this single tag may be better than 2 separate tags for Meta purposes:
and

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  • Either of these 3 tags exist... And this is about outdated answers anyway...
    – Tomerikoo
    Feb 18, 2021 at 17:34
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    @Tomerikoo Did you mean: neither of these 3 tags exist? That's what I see when I click on these links... And that's the point of my answer: we need a tag for this, preferably a single one. Feb 18, 2021 at 18:46
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    Meh, the answer to a problem on meta (or main) is rarely "create a new tag". Also, I'm not sure how this would help identify outdated answers on main, which is what this meta question is about... Feb 19, 2021 at 14:45
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    Surely there will be new types of disputes on meta appearing. "Why was my answer marked as outdated?" Meta tags are part of the infrastructure for this.
    – Trilarion
    Feb 20, 2021 at 9:09
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My personal experience is, that if I am on Stack Overflow as an answer hunter or question asker (typically coming from a google link), in about 10% of the cases am I here for some not-current material. If I could not find the information I need here, I would go elsewhere.

I also don't think that the quality of the content would be a big problem - not because it would be good, but because you are still the best on the Internet.

What I find the most annoying on the Stack Overflow, is that on many posts is it clearly visible that the OP is simply incapable/unwanting to formulate a round text even on his first language. No, it is not an English ("cultural diversity") problem; it is a functional illiteracy problem. I think this is your largest problem. The second is the inadequate reviewing, both in quality and quantity, on the Stack Overflow. The third is the open hostility of the meta sites and the reviewers. But these are another story. I am sure, this is what most of your 18% thought, and not on the obsolete answers.

That happens much more rarely, that I am coming here for some current technology, and I need to dig out what I want from a pile of obsolete answer(s). Yes, sometimes it happens (last time here), but I think the problem is not serious yet. Although it will obviously worsen with time, it could be useful to handle it in time.

I am sorry to say, but as I learnt you in the past decade, I think I have all the reason to foresee a mass deletion instead of some improvement. This would be unthinkably evil and harmful, not only for the Internet in general, but also for you (SE LLC)!

On this reason, I try to draw your attention to the other, destruction-free options. This is a brainstorming, and it is up to you where you go with it. Maybe you could use a combination of these for the different types of the obsolete content.

Noticing obsolete answers and pushing them to the end in the answer list

Answers could get a new flag option, "This answer is obsolete". This would put them to the VLQ review queue. If it gets enough votes (exact details are up to you), then @Community would put a "This answer is obsolete" notice to the answer, instead of deleting it. These answers would go automatically to the end in the default answer list ordering, independently from their score.

Migration to the Retrocomputing Stack Exchange site

If not only a single answer is obsolete, but a whole question, then the good news is that you already have a site, exactly for such questions. It is still far away from the average graduation, but not very far. While the exact criteria of a site graduation are not clear to me, a quick scan of your site list shows that the median question count of a site graduation is at approximately 10,000 questions. The Retrocomputing Stack Exchange site now has approximately 4,000.

Although questions older than two months are not migratable, as far I know, CMs are exempt from this restriction. And, in the case of such a major change in your system, maybe the change of the rules would be not impossible (the simplest option: allow community migrations to the Retrocomputing SE even if they are older than 60 days).

Just tag them

Another option to handle obsolete questions is just tagging them. It could be extended with a top search top bar improvement, which would enable us (visitors) to search only in the not obsolete (not [obsolete]-tagged) content.


In general, the capability to make such a big content deletion, is a big power and I don't believe that anybody could use it correctly. Thus, please

  • try to prefer the community decisions to the single-person decisions,
  • and try to prefer the non-destructive actions to the deletions,

in the process you are likely thinking on.

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    I can't call a legacy language from 2004 "Retrocomputing", and I don't think they'd be very appreciative of us dumping old content on their heads like that.
    – Makoto
    Feb 18, 2021 at 22:21
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    @Makoto I can't understand. Please formulate more clearly.
    – peterh
    Feb 18, 2021 at 23:04
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    It seems a little ironic for you to be criticising the communication skills of question askers. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I often find it hard to understand your posts because of the way you use English. I think I generally get the main points you're trying to make, but I'm rarely sure about the subtleties and the connotations.
    – PM 2Ring
    Feb 19, 2021 at 4:59
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    @PM2Ring I think both of us know that not this is the problem.
    – peterh
    Feb 19, 2021 at 9:16
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    Seriously, I don't know what that sentence is supposed to mean.
    – PM 2Ring
    Feb 19, 2021 at 9:18
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    @PM2Ring Of course. ;-)
    – peterh
    Feb 19, 2021 at 9:19
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    (Can you rephrase the paragraph containing "obsolete answer(s) fade what I want to know, happens much more rarely." (close to incomprehensible)?) Feb 19, 2021 at 14:44
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    While I think you are certainly right about functional illiteracy, the egotistical minimum effort attitude (absolutely zero regard for current and future readers) is likely the dominant reason (where even using the Shift key is too much effort). Lack of skills is a convenient excuse. Feb 19, 2021 at 14:45
  • @PeterMortensen Ok, I tried.
    – peterh
    Feb 19, 2021 at 15:44
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    I have those same fears that this will result in a lot of deletions. Not sure about the "VLQ review queue" (Low Quality Posts queue) though. It seems everything is deleted there.
    – Scratte
    Feb 19, 2021 at 15:51
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    @Scratte I watch closely the company & community behaviors since many years. I give about 45% that nothing will happen and the topic will be silently forgotten. I give another 45% that the company will invent some new rules enabling a mass deletion rampage. I give 9% that they will do some cosmetical changes what will be not insane. I give 1% that they will really improve anything.
    – peterh
    Feb 19, 2021 at 18:40
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