My nomination
Answers from Makyen
I tend to be a bit verbose, so these answers are a bit long.
- There is a high-rep user who is very active on the site, but frequently uses strong language which violates the Stack Overflow Code of Conduct, in their comments. When you warned them, they replied stating that the questions are of low quality which is why they left those comments. They also threatened to quit the site. Despite the warning, they continue to post similar comments. What steps, if any, will you take in order to address this situation? What if the comments were on Meta instead of main? Does that change your approach at all?
Violating the Code of Conduct is not acceptable, even for a high rep user who is very active. They have been warned and refused to modify their behavior. The normal procedure is to issue a suspension for a short time to allow the user to cool down. Then, if they do not correct their behavior, issue a series of progressively longer suspensions allowing the user to demonstrate that they have, or have not, changed their behavior after each one. In addition to the suspension, I would messages them with a note somewhat similar to:
"Your past contributions to Stack Overflow have been quite valuable. It would be unfortunate if you chose to leave the site. However, the Stack Overflow Code of Conduct is a set of rules which govern interaction with this site, and all Stack Exchange sites. It applies to all users, regardless of their other contributions, and regardless of the provocation. You have repeatedly violated the Code of Conduct and been warned about this behavior. You are receiving this suspension of [X time] in order to give you some time to cool down. After that time, we hope you choose to continue to participate on Stack Overflow within the Code of Conduct. To be clear, compliance with the Code of Conduct is required on Stack Overflow. Future failures on your part to comply with the Code of Conduct will result in progressively longer suspensions."
While there's some additional leeway for interactions on Meta, actual violations of the Code of Conduct are just as unacceptable on Meta as they are on the main site.
It's very desirable to have an active high-rep user as a contributor to Stack Overflow. However, ultimately, if they can't participate on SO in compliance with the Code of Conduct, then they need to not be interacting with SO.
- A new, low-rep user asks a non-duplicate, non-trivial, on-topic question on Meta. For unclear reasons, the question is met with downvotes and a pile-on of comments from multiple users. The question gets closed, and some comments get flagged. You have a pretty good idea of what an answer to said question would look like. What steps, if any, would you take to turn this situation around for the benefit of all parties?
Taking the situation as stated:
- Clean up the comments, as appropriate. Look at those that are flagged and all the rest. The comments can be deleted and/or moved to chat, depending on the situation.
- Reopen the question and answer it.
- Edit the question to improve it's quality and make it clearer that it's on-topic
- Leave a comment explaining: to the OP about how things work on Meta (e.g. downvotes indicate disagreement), and to explain to other people as to why I feel the question is on-topic. Exactly what to say depends on the details of the situation.
- Write a Haiku poem that catches the essence of why you think it will be fun to handle 400 flags every day. If you don't like Haiku feel free to use any another form of poetry or a bullet list to express how you will survive the "grind", but keep it very short!
Flags raised willfully
Carefully evaluate
Diligently done
- A chat room has taken to an undesirable topic (not necessarily ban-worthy, but something that Stack Overflow chat is not meant to discuss). A new user has entered the room and begins mass-flagging anything they consider bad and demanding the conversation stop by threatening more flags. Regulars in the room counter-flag the new user's threats. How would you handle this?
This question presupposes that the discussion in the chatroom is "an undesirable topic". The question appears to assume that there has already been a determination that the conversation is one that needs to stop. Thus, the potential scenario of a new user flagging things they didn't understand isn't considered in this answer. However, when entering a real-world situation, the first step, however brief, is to evaluate what is going on and the merits of the flags.
So, based on the assumptions in the question:
I would first, leave a message that the topic is inappropriate and that discussion of it must end. While waiting to see if people actually stop, start cleaning up (deleting) inappropriate messages. If a person or two continue the discussion, then they can be kicked or banned from chat for a short period. If it's a significant number of people, then the room can be frozen for a short period of time to get the point across. If that still doesn't result in the end of the discussion, then the room can be frozen for an extended time and/or more people can be kicked or banned from chat for a cooling off period.
Basically, the intent is to provide a measured response that is sufficient to get the behavior to stop. Most people will adjust their behavior with relatively gentile reminders. If they don't, then progressively stronger measures can be taken to get the point across, or, if needed, to just prevent the people who are refusing to modify their behavior from interacting with chat or SO until they cool down. As usual, the point is to apply only the amount of correction that's necessary to get the behavior to change, without over-reacting and being too heavy-handed.
- A user habitually flags old comments as being in violation of our Code of Conduct ("unfriendly or unkind" and/or "harassment, bigotry, or abuse"), which can lead to disciplinary action against the original commenter. In your judgment, the flagged comments are on the borderline of rude. What do you do?
If the comments are any of "unfriendly or unkind", "harassment, bigotry, or abuse", or "no longer needed", then delete the comments.
If the comments don't meet the criteria of "unfriendly or unkind" (UU) and/or "harassment, bigotry, or abuse" (HBA), then the flags can be declined, but the comments still deleted. However, doing either or both is a judgement call, based on at least: how close the comments really are to being U/U or HBA; the relative harm from the declined flag(s) vs. the harm to the user who made the not quite U/U or HBA comments when the flags are marked helpful; the benefit of positively reinforcing the flagging behavior vs. a potential out of the blue disciplinary action for the user who commented some time ago, possibly years ago; etc.
I would communicate with the flagger that "No longer needed" would be more appropriate for comments that don't quite reach the level of "unfriendly or unkind" and/or "harassment, bigotry, or abuse" flags and where the comments are actually no longer needed. I'd explain what the potential consequences are to the author of the comment and that a bit more leeway should be given for old comments, but that if the comment really does qualify as "unfriendly or unkind" and/or "harassment, bigotry, or abuse", then it should be flagged as such.
If the flags indicate a pattern of such comments authored by a specific individual, then review their comments, or a portion of them. Determine if it's only an issue with old comments, or if it's also on newer comments. Address any issues found with the author of the comments.
- How would you deal with a user who produces a steady stream of valuable answers, but tends to generate a large number of arguments/flags from comments?
This sounds like the description of an interaction earlier in the process with a user similar to the one in question #1.
The requirement is that people who are participating on SO are doing so within the Code of Conduct. The desire is to retain valuable contributors.
Basically, we should try to use the least amount of coercion as is necessary to get them to change their behavior. Start with gentile nudges and progressively get more forceful, if their behavior does not change. This can start with discussing it with them using comments, inviting them to a mod-restricted chatroom, mod messages, and warnings. The discussions should explicitly inform them that their behavior must change; suggest that they just disengage from arguments; maybe they could take a break from SO for a few days; etc.).
If their behavior still doesn't change, then a brief suspension, followed by progressively longer ones, if the behavior continues. How fast to move through these options depends on the details of the situation and the user's reactions. As with many human interactions, it's a balance that depends on details. But, ultimately, the behavior must change, if the person wants to continue to participate on Stack Overflow.
- How would you handle a situation where another mod closed/deleted/etc. a question that you feel shouldn't have been?
Discuss it with the other mod in the/a mod-room. Reach an agreement as to if the question should be open/undeleted/locked. It's quite possible that either of us is wrong (e.g. misreading the question), or that we need to compromise. Given that I'm the one that thinks the question should be open/undeleted, it's likely that a prelude to the discussion with the other mod would be for me to edit the question to make it more clear, provide more focus, and address any other issues with the question, based on the close reason.
- An established user (say > 6 years tenure, > 10k reputation, > 100 posts) has developed a tendency to ask low-quality questions (e.g., debugging help without MCVE, too broad "write my project", POB security issues, etc). These low-quality questions are closed by the community, and comments are left suggesting ways to improve. The user does not heed this advice, and continues to ask poor questions. The automatic question ban won't kick in, since their old posts attract a few upvotes each week. As a moderator, is this something you should take action on, or something you should leave to the community to handle? If you do take action, what would you do?
This is something a moderator can help with, if it's become disruptive to the community. To a considerable extent, being disruptive depends on the volume of off-topic questions the user is posting. Is it one per month, one per week, several every day? There's a point where the sheer volume of low-quality questions becomes disruptive by itself. There's also a point below which the situation should be left to the community to handle. I don't have a specific volume at which this break-point exists. If this is a situation that's come to the attention of the moderator through flags, then, at a minimum, it's somewhat disruptive, at least to the user who flagged.
The first step, as is often the case, is investigating. What type of content are they posting? How is it off-topic/low-quality? The next step would be to have a conversation with the user, send a message, or leave comments to nudge the user to produce better quality content. Focusing on the benefits to the user (e.g. they can actually get good answers) is usually a good way to convince someone that it's in their interest to change. The moderator can explain the problem and provide specific ways the user can improve the quality of their questions. Is it that the user is just not putting effort into the questions? Do they have a misunderstanding about what is on-topic? Perhaps the issue is that they have not really internalized the changes over the years of what is on- and off-topic on SO. There is considerable content in the Help Center to which the user can be directed.
If the issue is actually disruptive, and the user continues to refuse to improve their contributions, then the response can become progressively more forceful, as is the normal response to users that continue to be disruptive, refusing to change their behavior. How that works was covered in the answers to #6 and #1 above.
- Moderators are not selected because they are domain experts in certain tags, but it so happens that you are an expert in one such tag. You see that several members of the community have elected to close a question as a duplicate, but you see that the duplicates don't actually answer the question as stated, nor do they provide a useful signpost for the asker. How do you proceed?
SO entrusts their demonstrated experts in tags with the ability to unilaterally close as duplicate, reopen a duplicate question, or edit the list of duplicates. Given that other members of the community have already spoken, I'd certainly double and triple checked that I'm reading the question correctly, then, assuming that my understanding of the question and the duplicate has not changed, I, as an expert, would A) find an appropriate duplicate(s) and edit the duplicate list. B) if there's no available duplicate, or duplicates, then I would reopen the question. In both cases, I'd leave a comment briefly explaining why it was not a duplicate. In addition, I would edit the question to clarify areas that may have lead the other users to misunderstand what the question was about (i.e. edit to make it clearer that it's not a duplicate).
- Are there any Meta posts which you are not proud of? In other words, if you ever ask a Meta question, and it receives a lot of negative feedback, what would you do? (Would you ask for it to be dissociated from your account?)
I would not ask for my Meta posts to be disassociated from my account.
I believe in being accountable for my actions, which, importantly, includes accepting responsibility for making mistakes, correcting them, and learning from them. We're all human. We all make mistakes. IMO, it's significantly more important how you deal with having made a mistake than that you make none, because we will all make mistakes sometimes.
In the specific case of receiving a lot of negative feedback, I would seriously consider the negative feedback, thoughtfully examine my view of the topic, and, potentially, adjust my view on the topic, if the feedback was convincing. If it was a moderation issue, I would accept that my point of view did not fit the consensus and adjust how I moderated to match the rules and/or consensus. If I felt I could not do so in a specific situation, then I would request that other moderators to handle it.
As to Meta posts I'm not proud of, I have 3 deleted Meta posts. The first is an answer in which I made a copy/paste error that included some PII, which has since been redacted. The second was a question proposing a change for how Documentation awarded reputation. It made some arguments based on economics, which I explained poorly. I should have refined that proposal more prior to posting. That question was deleted by the Roomba. The third was an answer to a feature request. While I agree with the proposal, the way I worded the answer and my initial failure to get Markdown to format code as part of a list appeared to be detracting from the feature request, so I deleted my answer.
- Given your views of what Stack Overflow's (Main and Meta) goals are at this point in time, what moderating actions will you mainly focus on and why will/should that move the site toward those goals (or keep things as they are)?
Stack Overflow's goal is to create a repository of questions and answers that are helpful to future visitors. In addition to handling flags I plan to help shepherding burninations, responding to Meta requests, handling plagiarism, intervening in situations where users need to be guided away from destructive activity (e.g. repeated vandalism, and issues with users similar to those described in earlier questions here), etc.
In addition, I plan to continue to participate in content curation. However, my being a moderator would significantly change how I'd expect to do that. For closing questions, due to a moderator's vote being binding, I expect that I will primarily do so only on obviously off-topic questions, leaving many of the questions which I currently vote-to-close to the consensus of other users. So, while I do plan to close obvious off-topic questions, I'm not running for moderator to "Close All the Things"™
While my delete-voting will increase due to handling flags, I feel that content should not be deleted, unless it's causing harm in some way, and that authors of questions and answers should be given the opportunity to improve their posts. In particular, I feel that potentially salvageable, closed questions should not be deleted until at least the end of the on-hold period, if not the point the Roomba would normally delete them. Waiting to delete them allows the OP the opportunity to improve their question. Additionally, older, closed questions with a significant number of views shouldn't be deleted without evaluating their potential benefit to future visitors. Basically, each question or answer one should be evaluated individually.
Answers to questions in comments
You are perhaps the most dedicated, knowledgeable and helpful user I have ever encountered on SO. Of the activities I am aware of (not incuding answering questions and user-moderating on the main site), you are RO in several chat rooms, write userscripts, are active in Charcoal, active on meta, and spend a lot of time giving detailed helpful answers to people in chat. My questions are 1) What's to stop you burning out? 2) Which if any of the aforementioned activities, or others, will you give up? 3) Do you really need to be a moderator when you already do so much with the tools you have?
Burnout potential: I have a very high tolerance for high workload situations over an extended period. In addition, I've previously gotten close to burn-out at work, so I know what getting close to my limits feels like and can adapt my activities to avoid it. The time I was close to being burned-out at work was after working for 5 years at an average of > 90 hours of work/week. Admittedly, I only actually kept records for how much I was working for the later 3 years, but my impression was that I worked more than that number of hours/week for the first couple of years.
The impact on myself, wrt. burnout, of my activities on SO is much less than what might be expected because I enjoy the vast majority of what I do here. Some things are a chore, from time to time, but helping moderate SO is something I find quite fulfilling. Helping out on SO is actually one of my go-to things to do when I'm procrastinating on doing other things.
Overall, I consider it unlikely that I'll burn out. However, it's always a possibility for anyone. In such cases, it's possible to take a break from moderating, or from SO entirely. For instance, at least one SO moderator took a couple/few months off last year. While they were missed, being able to have moderators do that is one of the reasons there are a several/many moderators for SO.
Which activities might I give up to perform moderator duties
Assuming I don't just increase the amount of time I spend on Stack Overflow related activities, I could do any or all of the following:
There are considerable inefficiencies in some things I routinely do on SO. Those inefficiencies can be significantly reduced by various changes, which I plan to make. Some of the changes will be more improvements I've been planning to the various userscripts to further streamline review of *-pls
requests and SD reports. Overall, I expect the total of these improvements to cover more than the time commitment for being a moderator. However, these, obviously, require some up-front time-investment to write/test code. OTOH, considerable portions of that code has already been written, as the improvements are ones I've been planning for some time.
Obviously, once completed, I'd release the userscript improvements, so other people can use them too.
I spend more time than I should browsing the Hot Network Questions, which is completely recreation. I can cut back on that, which would also save enough time for the moderator commitment, if not substantially more, without fully eliminating this recreational reading. Not eliminating it entirely is beneficial, as it's also, usually, a break from reviewing activity. Having a reasonable number of such breaks helps prevent burnout and review-fatigue.
It's my expectation that I will, at least until acclimatized to being a moderator (if I'm elected), reduce the time I spend reviewing cv-pls
requests in SOCVR, to an extent.
Currently, on nearly every day, I review every cv-pls
in SOCVR which is not complete as of about 23:00UTC. If there are more cv-pls
requests which I want to vote on than I have remaining close-votes, I do the rest after 00:00UTC. A disproportionate amount of the time to review these requests are on cv-pls
requests that are not immediately obvious that they should be closed, or where I'm less familiar with the technology involved. The requests for questions such as these usually take considerably longer to review, and often end up with me skipping them once I've learned enough about the technology being used to figure out that I'm not reasonably going to be able to make a close-vote determination (e.g. is it enough code to demonstrate the problem).
For me, with a binding close-vote, I should stay away from close-voting things where it's somewhat more likely that I'm wrong in my evaluation. That means that I should be avoiding the above type of questions, where the fact that it's off-topic isn't quite clear. Given that these also take up a large chunk of time to evaluate, this saves considerable time over what I'm currently doing. It's not that large of a loss to SOCVR, as I eventually choose not to vote on many of these anyway.
- I can reduce the number of SmokeDetector reports which I review and/or investigate. This is easily accomplished, but I believe improvements in detections and tooling can make my doing so not impact Charcoal significantly.
Do I need to be a moderator in order to contribute: No, none of us need to be a moderator. I nominated myself because I feel I can do significantly more to help the community, and help in different ways, by being a moderator than without being a moderator. If I don't get elected, then I will continue to contribute without the additional responsibility and abilities that come with being a moderator.