I gotta say, Joel posting this on meta disrupted my weekend, if nothing else. I had planned on playing some XCOM 2 and instead spent time reading comments and chatting with people in the Tavern. Now in some respects that's appropriate. A huge problem I see with the executive order is that it took effect suddenly after it was signed late on Friday, which meant Saturday was stressful and confusing to a lot of folks. My brother is an airline pilot and, while he sympathizes with the protestors, he wishes they had picked a different venue to disrupt. I'm sure a lot of travelers think that way.
Similarly, a post prominently featured in the sidebar, that's titled "Time to take a stand" and discusses a politically divisive issue, gets in the way of the normal functioning of this site. If you agree the ban is "morally repugnant", you probably have heard plenty about that on Twitter, Facebook and the news. If you disagree, well, having that opinion broadcast in a space normally free of politics can be very off-putting. I for one don't look forward to four years of bickering on meta. (Or rather, needlessly bickering. ;-)
In general, meta is the wrong place to bring up political issues. As many people have pointed out to me, if Joel weren't a co-founder and CEO of Stack Overflow, his post would have been deleted nearly immediately. (I would say, however, that a handful of other users could have posted the same thing without having it immediately closed/removed.) It sorta feels like he abused his privilege by making a political stand and asking others to do the same.
There's a lot of issues going on, so I'm going to break it up:
Defending the venue.
One idea I've seen is that the post ought to have been published on Joel on Software or the Stack Overflow blog. The first has the advantage of being Joel's personal site and the second has the advantage of positioning the opinion as the company's, but not necessarily the community's. But both have the disadvantage of not being great places for the community to discuss the issue. And that was important to Joel. This isn't his first rodeo; he knew the sort of responses the post would get.
Meta Q&A is beyond bizarre when you think about it. Whenever we have an announcement to make on meta (typically signaled with featureddiscussion) you can set your watch by how long it takes for someone to comment that it's not a real question. I like to direct people toward what I hope they will use the answer space for, but it's really an artifice to avoid the criticism. (And it doesn't always work.) But what people miss is that Q&A is a unique opportunity to write up dissenting responses that are on similar footing as the original post.
When an employee posts something dumb on the blog, the best you can hope for as a user is that readers will scroll to the bottom of the page and find your necessarily-short comment buried among many others. When an employee posts something dumb as a meta question, you can downvote, answer with an equally sized post, comment, edit the post, vote to close and even vote to delete. Now, we can undelete and reopen, sure. But those actions are not necessary if we post on a blog. When an employee posts an announcement on meta, it exposes us to negative feedback. That's one of the reasons we prefer this venue.
I will say I was surprised Joel picked Meta Stack Overflow. This site certainly has the greatest number of people affected by the issue, but it's hardly confined to the developer community. For that reason, I immediately posted a copy on Meta Islam. Reading between the lines, I suspect Joel had in mind the unique position of Stack Overflow within the developer community. That leads me to:
Why this particular issue?
"I am extremely upset by President Trump" is probably a feeling folks are going to have to get used to. Personally, I've had to mute several dear friends and family members on Facebook who have seemingly been outraged 24/7 for months. I'd hate to have people start ignoring announcements specific to Stack Overflow because our CEO has used meta as his soapbox too often. But I think this issue is singularly important for the way Stack Overflow operates. Time to take a stand points out we have plenty of people who particpate from the countries singled by the executive order. It's important those users know they are still welcome on this site.
But I think this is also an issue that has specific impact on the technology industry. In previous jobs, I've worked closely with immigrants from Egypt, Bangladesh and Iran. As far as I can tell, these predominantly Muslim countries produce fine programmers. A cynical way to look at the tech industry's support for H-1B Visas and other immigration-friendly policies is that it provides good workers who are often willing to take less pay. (I will say this isn't true of Stack Overflow since we pay programmers according to an algorithm rather than according to their negotiation position.)
So this particular issue is a concern for the tech industry in a way that other political issues aren't. To quote from a similarly titled post I'm sure Joel had already read:
The tech community is powerful. Large tech companies in particular have enormous power and are held in high regard. We need to hear from the CEOs clearly and unequivocally. Although there is some business risk in doing so, there is strength in numbers—if everyone does it early this coming week, we will all make each other stronger.
Tech companies go to extraordinary lengths to recruit and retain employees; those employees have a lot of leverage. If employees push companies to do something, I believe they’ll have to.—Sam Altman, Time to Take a Stand
(If you don't recognize the name, Sam Altman is the president of Y Combinator.)
One of the effects of giving the community a chance to provide feedback is that we (the community, I mean) can show that this issue matters to us too. We don't necessarily have consensus on what criteria should be applied to immigration cases, but I think there's strong agreement that religion should not be a consideration. We want to be able to work with excellent developers no matter where in the world they were born.
But seriously, should Joel's question be closed/moved?
The post has now been temporarily locked. I'm not sure what's going to happen next, but I suspect it will end up being closed and eventually given a historical lock. We've heard quite a lot both in agreement and in opposition. I think we are close to the point where diminishing returns means there's no new substance being added.
Thank you for indulging us in this opportunity to hear from you, the community, on an issue we don't usually solicit feedback about.