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TL;DR :

  1. The existence of situations where SO, as an organisation or as a community, should express political views is rather undeniable.
  2. The definition of such situations is very subjective and needs to be stated clearly in the site's policy so that no one feels like the staff or the CEO is above it.

Everyone agrees that "standard politics" should stay out of SO or MSO. Folks defending Joel's postJoel's post do not argue that, they claim that this particular matter is beyond standard politics. Thus, the core questions are really :

  1. Is there such a thing as "non-standard politics" ?

  
  1. If so, where is the line ?

  

I think most people will agree that the answer to the first question is yes. For exemple, if a respected/famous figure of the community was imprisoned or threatened by a repressive regime for political views (god forbid), I don't imagine anyone would complain about the CEO supporting him or her and condemning one's abusive repression. Yet, that would be 100% political. Therefore, situations where SO staff should stand up for political matters do exist.

Now, the second question is much harder to address and chances are everyone has its own line. As several mods (like TimTim) let us know that such posts were to be posted again, I believe this should be discussed at least by the staff and stated clear in SO policy.

A possible definition, that Tim, JonJon and others used, is that politics is on-topic if it potentially threatens the site's functionning. Many argued it was not the case with the Muslim ban but I'd like to highlight that SE is based on worldwide solidarity and cooperation between folks without any sort of distinction. It works so well because many people from everywhere are willing to share their knowledge with whoever needs it. Therefore, any politics that feed nationalism or any kind of discrimination is ultimately a threat to the very core of this site, especially because this phenomenon is not just growing in the US but everywhere on this planet.

However, there are plenty other possible definitions, more or less wide. I don't think we can all agree on one, but I think we do need a clear definition of what is on topic, so that anyone can share that kind of post and not just the CEO or a mod. That would help everyone, whether agreeing with the view or not, accepting such posts.

TL;DR :

  1. The existence of situations where SO, as an organisation or as a community, should express political views is rather undeniable.
  2. The definition of such situations is very subjective and needs to be stated clearly in the site's policy so that no one feels like the staff or the CEO is above it.

Everyone agrees that "standard politics" should stay out of SO or MSO. Folks defending Joel's post do not argue that, they claim that this particular matter is beyond standard politics. Thus, the core questions are really :

  1. Is there such a thing as "non-standard politics" ?

 
  1. If so, where is the line ?

 

I think most people will agree that the answer to the first question is yes. For exemple, if a respected/famous figure of the community was imprisoned or threatened by a repressive regime for political views (god forbid), I don't imagine anyone would complain about the CEO supporting him or her and condemning one's abusive repression. Yet, that would be 100% political. Therefore, situations where SO staff should stand up for political matters do exist.

Now, the second question is much harder to address and chances are everyone has its own line. As several mods (like Tim) let us know that such posts were to be posted again, I believe this should be discussed at least by the staff and stated clear in SO policy.

A possible definition, that Tim, Jon and others used, is that politics is on-topic if it potentially threatens the site's functionning. Many argued it was not the case with the Muslim ban but I'd like to highlight that SE is based on worldwide solidarity and cooperation between folks without any sort of distinction. It works so well because many people from everywhere are willing to share their knowledge with whoever needs it. Therefore, any politics that feed nationalism or any kind of discrimination is ultimately a threat to the very core of this site, especially because this phenomenon is not just growing in the US but everywhere on this planet.

However, there are plenty other possible definitions, more or less wide. I don't think we can all agree on one, but I think we do need a clear definition of what is on topic, so that anyone can share that kind of post and not just the CEO or a mod. That would help everyone, whether agreeing with the view or not, accepting such posts.

TL;DR :

  1. The existence of situations where SO, as an organisation or as a community, should express political views is rather undeniable.
  2. The definition of such situations is very subjective and needs to be stated clearly in the site's policy so that no one feels like the staff or the CEO is above it.

Everyone agrees that "standard politics" should stay out of SO or MSO. Folks defending Joel's post do not argue that, they claim that this particular matter is beyond standard politics. Thus, the core questions are really :

  1. Is there such a thing as "non-standard politics" ?
 
  1. If so, where is the line ?
 

I think most people will agree that the answer to the first question is yes. For exemple, if a respected/famous figure of the community was imprisoned or threatened by a repressive regime for political views (god forbid), I don't imagine anyone would complain about the CEO supporting him or her and condemning one's abusive repression. Yet, that would be 100% political. Therefore, situations where SO staff should stand up for political matters do exist.

Now, the second question is much harder to address and chances are everyone has its own line. As several mods (like Tim) let us know that such posts were to be posted again, I believe this should be discussed at least by the staff and stated clear in SO policy.

A possible definition, that Tim, Jon and others used, is that politics is on-topic if it potentially threatens the site's functionning. Many argued it was not the case with the Muslim ban but I'd like to highlight that SE is based on worldwide solidarity and cooperation between folks without any sort of distinction. It works so well because many people from everywhere are willing to share their knowledge with whoever needs it. Therefore, any politics that feed nationalism or any kind of discrimination is ultimately a threat to the very core of this site, especially because this phenomenon is not just growing in the US but everywhere on this planet.

However, there are plenty other possible definitions, more or less wide. I don't think we can all agree on one, but I think we do need a clear definition of what is on topic, so that anyone can share that kind of post and not just the CEO or a mod. That would help everyone, whether agreeing with the view or not, accepting such posts.

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TL;DR :

  1. The existence of situations where SO, as an organisation or as a community, should express political views is rather undeniable.
  2. The definition of such situations is very subjective and needs to be stated clearly in the site's policy so that no one feels like the staff or the CEO is above it.

Everyone agrees that "standard politics" should stay out of SO or MSO. Folks defending Joel's post do not argue that, they claim that this particular matter is beyond standard politics. Thus, the core questions are really :

  1. Is there such a thing as "non-standard politics" ?

  1. If so, where is the line ?

I think most people will agree that the answer to the first question is yes. For exemple, if a respected/famous figure of the community was imprisoned or threatened by a repressive regime for political views (god forbid), I don't imagine anyone would complain about the CEO supporting him or her and condemning one's abusive repression. Yet, that would be 100% political. Therefore, situations where SO staff should stand up for political matters do exist.

Now, the second question is much harder to address and chances are everyone has its own line. As several mods (like Tim) let us know that such posts were to be posted again, I believe this should be discussed at least by the staff and stated clear in SO policy.

A possible definition, that Tim, Jon and others used, is that politics is on-topic if it potentially threatens the site's functionning. Many argued it was not the case with the Muslim ban but I'd like to highlight that SE is based on worldwide solidarity and cooperation between folks without any sort of distinction. It works so well because many people from everywhere are willing to share their knowledge with whoever needs it. Therefore, any politics that feed nationalism or any kind of discrimination is ultimately a threat to the very core of this site, especially because this phenomenon is not just growing in the US but everywhere on this planet.

However, there are plenty other possible definitions, more or less wide. I don't think we can all agree on one, but I think we do need a clear definition of what is on topic, so that anyone can share that kind of post and not just the CEO or a mod. That would help everyone, whether agreeing with the view or not, accepting such posts.