Timeline for Should the "Time to take a stand" question be closed / moved?
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May 23, 2017 at 12:38 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://stackoverflow.com/ with https://stackoverflow.com/
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Feb 2, 2017 at 7:34 | comment | added | gnat | I think it is critically important to know what Highjumper and Flatnose think about idea of migrating the tribe from East to West caves. This is top priority | |
Feb 1, 2017 at 15:08 | comment | added | jscs | "Priorities. [...] Fundamental human rights..." Yeah, agreed, @Cody. I erased a paragraph along that line from this answer more than once. Programming isn't life and death; getting kids out of Aleppo obviously is. If I could trade the existence of Stack Overflow for the non-existence of Boko Haram, I would, without a nanosecond's consideration. But I kept coming back to the core idea that the whole group of humanity is made up of lots of smaller groups that cooperate in limited ways. And I think those smaller groups are important to build cooperation for the bigger stuff. | |
Feb 1, 2017 at 15:06 | comment | added | duplode | @CodyGray That is close to how I feel about this whole ordeal right now. To put it bluntly, I believe that from the many objections raised against the post the only one that holds any water is that the company misjudged how the community would react, by failing to consider how unreasonable the attitude to political discourse is society-wide (not just in the US, but mostly anywhere in the world) -- i.e. the objection expressed in this answer. I find it hard to condemn the company for that as harshly as people are doing around here. | |
Feb 1, 2017 at 14:36 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | provides our access to this website, and Meta is precisely the place that has been set up to discuss issues that affect the functioning of this website. Reading some of the arguments, I can't help but feel like they're objecting as if this had been posted on the main site. It wasn't. It doesn't get much more "Meta" than "our programmers can't work on this site because of US governmental policy". | |
Feb 1, 2017 at 14:35 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | Well, you do have to pick your battles. The US claims to be a representative government, with the obvious implication that its citizens and its corporations have influence over its policies, if not being the ones who dictate them outright. North Korea doesn't make the same claim, and neither does China, at least not regarding its censorship of materials. Beyond that, if SO were headquartered in China, I suspect they'd want to take a stand on the Great Firewall. They probably couldn't because that's how censorship works, but the point is, this affects the functioning of the company that... | |
Feb 1, 2017 at 14:11 | comment | added | NathanOliver | @CodyGray I kinda feel the same way but why do we never talk about the great firewall or how we can get the probably talented people in North Korea on this site. If we are going to open up the can of worms we should be doing it equally. | |
Feb 1, 2017 at 14:05 | comment | added | user247702 | I'd award you a bounty if it was possible on Meta. | |
Feb 1, 2017 at 14:05 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | I'm beginning to come around to the same point of view, despite being initially in favor of Joel's post, after listening to some of the arguments against it and seeing how much backlash it stirred up. On the other hand, I'm still conflicted. Why? Priorities. Programming is neat and fun, and getting answers and having a shared bond is wonderful, but some issues transcend others. Fundamental human rights is one of those transcendental issues. Maybe this isn't the right venue, but at the same time, it is important that we don't avoid important issues out of fear of disagreement. | |
Feb 1, 2017 at 13:48 | history | answered | jscs | CC BY-SA 3.0 |