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I've found questions dealing with impersonation of real people but these are primarily about the user names, and mostly in the context of politicians and celebrities. What about a user who sets the Twitter and GitHub links in their profile (Edit Profile -> Links) to accounts of other people?

This question was caused by a user with ~42k rep where I at first suspected their account might have been hacked, as they asked an extremely low-tier question. Further investigation of the profile showed it's probably not hacked, but "interesting" nonetheless. They use an English name with location New York, use a Twitter link of an English author/journalist with almost their profile name, and a GitHub profile of a somewhat well-known American dev with an entirely different name. The user itself seems to be Vietnamese which can be gleaned from the contents of their latest question (I don't care where they're from, just a data point to show they're not who their socials are pointing to).

I raised a custom flag for the user, which was declined with the comment "We don't have rules about impersonation AFAIK". That seems to be the case, but what does meta think - should we have rules about people using other people's Twitter / GitHub?

Note that I'm aware it would be futile to try to proactively enforce any rules about this across all users. I'm mainly thinking about situations where a clear case is found organically by someone and flagged for mod attention.

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    I hope this post won't start a flood of fake accounts
    – Konrad
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 17:17
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    @Konrad I doubt that's much of a concern with the normal meta users. Maybe if the post gets featured and gets a lot of drive by traffic from main. Also, most trolls are probably busy pouring oil on the dumpster fire over at twitter at the moment ;)
    – l4mpi
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 17:30
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    While it hasn't been featured, it did become a hot meta post...
    – dan1st
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 17:34
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    Kind of related to this question: Is it allowed to use a profile picture of another person?
    – Konrad
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 17:42
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    Related on MSE: How far should we go in disallowing 'impersonation' in profiles?
    – Andrew T.
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 17:52
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    I mean, they can be Vietnamese and still be using an English name while living in New York. Linking to social accounts that are clearly two different people is a bigger indicator that the rest of their profile information is also fake. Anyway, I lost my original comment but the summary is that while linking to other folks' social media feels like an incorrect usage of the field, I'm not sure it's an actual problem outside of sincere impersonation attempts.
    – BSMP
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 18:12
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    Can be English person living in New York using Vietnamese name to "justify" not spellchecking they posts :) Get/write a userscript that shows Q/A ratio if such accounts bother you enough... Commented Dec 2, 2022 at 1:06
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    Note: The Acceptable Use Policy says: "Identity Theft and Privacy. Users that misleadingly appropriate the identity of another person are not permitted." Not sure how best to interpret that, but it seems simple to me. Unless there's some weird logic with the "misleadingly" part.
    – starball
    Commented Dec 2, 2022 at 1:25
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    And we have 20 people called Donald Duck. Shocking! And even a Horse_with_no_name who is clearly impersonating a famous horse.
    – Stephen C
    Commented Dec 2, 2022 at 7:58
  • Yes, lying about the location is common (their writing style usually betrays them), probably because they think their content will be better received (there may actually be some truth to that). They ought to leave the location out or be unspecific (e.g., "Earth" or "The universe"). Commented Dec 2, 2022 at 15:03
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    I have the same name as Elon Musk, but I am older than him, so actually he's the impersonator.
    – 0-1
    Commented Dec 2, 2022 at 22:56
  • These links could easily be validated - why don't we do it?
    – lorro
    Commented Dec 2, 2022 at 23:47
  • Funny, there's only one Linus Torvalds. As for impersonator, it requires a complete profile, just a picture or name isn't enough; they need to do a complete profile that would realistically lead people to believe that it was the impersonated person: meta.stackexchange.com/a/174589/282094 meta.stackexchange.com/a/279109/282094 meta.stackexchange.com/a/174456/282094 meta.stackexchange.com/a/99918/282094 meta.stackexchange.com/q/74584/282094
    – Rob
    Commented Dec 3, 2022 at 0:06

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I went digging around the user profile you flagged (not linking due to Meta effect). Some fun facts

  • The user changed their name on Oct 14
  • Their previous profile data confirms they are from Asia, not New York

Which leads me to the same point of the previous discussion: So what?

There's 4 users on SO with that same name and spelling (and it's a common name). If we throw the common variant of the same, that increases to 24. I can't find anything about this user that would indicate that their having this name is hurting anything. I wasn't familiar with it and Google returns a variety of "higher profile but still relatively unknown" people. For fun, I checked some other names

Famous Name SO users with said name
Vladimir Putin 10
Donald Trump 26
Chuck Norris 31
Bill Gates 22
Steve Jobs 44
Bob Goff 2
Linus Torvalds 1
Jon Skeet 2

At the risk of Meta effect, I don't think Jon Skeet is meant to be any sort of riff on the famous and most prolific SO user of all time (of all time!). I suspect he is probably just some guy with the same name.

Social media links are purely a bankshot

In order for the links to have any negative effect, you need to

  1. Click into their profile
  2. Click the link
  3. Believe the link validates who the person is

I'm not sure we can help you there if you believe everyone on the Internet is who they say they are because of a mere link anyone could have.

TL;DR

If a user is engaged in any of the following

  • Actually pretending to be another SO user (completely copying their entire profile, username, etc.)
  • Trolling
  • Engaging in some sort of scam based on the famous username they're using (i.e. "Email me at [email protected]!")

Those are all not allowed already. Flag such behavior for moderator attention.

But trying to enforce any sort of "Don't use a famous name" rule is infeasible. What if you just share the same name? What if you want to make a political statement? What if you just like their name? The reasons for doing this are too long to list.

And what's the harm? SO isn't a social media company where you're trying to trick me into friending you so you can access more data about me. You could jump into chat and pretend to be that person, I suppose, but that assumes you made a positive contribution to the site in the first place to get the rep to do that. Mission accomplished?

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    I'm not at all concerned with the name though. I'm specifically asking about setting "your" twitter/github link to that of someone else. I agree that I can't fathom what the actual purpose would be in the specific case, especially given that they link to two unrelated people.
    – l4mpi
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 18:09
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    @l4mpi: What's the difference, really? If someone wants to say that they're Elon Musk on Twitter, why does...that have weight? Are they actively spamming? Are they actively causing harm with this? I'd imagine if someone is doing something untoward with that in their profile that it'd get handled with the rules that already exist, but I can't see actual harm right this instant... Could you describe the harm here? I'm just an old meta hound but I'm struggling to connect the dots.
    – Makoto
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 18:16
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    @Makoto As I said, in the specific case I don't see any reason for why the user is doing this. The only reason I can think of is trying to appear more american / western to someone taking a quick glance at their profile, which isn't exactly harmful. But at the same time, not knowing their rationale is putting me off - why would any reasonable user do this? And it's not an obvious fake profile like using Chuck Norris etc. TL;DR it feels fishy to me, but I'm not sure how it could become a problem, which is why I asked the question to get other people's input.
    – l4mpi
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 18:26
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    @Makoto One problem I can think of is that imporsanting a random semi-famous person (as opposed to politicians, celebrities, etc.) can make your profile look more trustworthy (e.g., "I'm this guy who's a senior developer at Microsoft and here's a link to my blog/Twitter/LinkedIn").
    – 41686d6564
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 18:26
  • @l4mpi: I mean, if you don't know their motivation, why are you assuming one? Sure, it could be for nefarious things, but it might not be. Only way to know for sure is to observe them doing fishy things.
    – Makoto
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 18:27
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    Utterly disappointed that I'm not on the list.
    – rene
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 18:30
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    10 Users named "Vladimir Putin", yet there was an "irrefutable" argumentation that political names in favour of russia are getting banned/censored. I'm confused right now.
    – Tom
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 18:38
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    @Makoto well, this started with a question of such low quality that I considered their account might have been taken over or sold (basically the equivalent of "why does this C code not run if I paste it into a bash shell?" - from a user with over 40000 rep). That already led me to believe that something is not quite right with this user.
    – l4mpi
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 18:41
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    @Makoto As I already stated in the question, I did check their profile and quickly found out it's not hacked, and it's just another reminder that high rep does not mean the person has any clue what they're doing. Checking the profile however led me to the "fake" socials, which I flagged as (abbreviated) "not sure if that's impersonation or some other shady stuff, take a look please", and that came back as "no rules about impersonation", leading to the question, "well, should there be any for this case (social links)?", which brings us to right here.
    – l4mpi
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 18:55
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    @Tom The standard is we don't allow calls for violence of any kind. Political usernames and avatars are acceptable in general.
    – Machavity Mod
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 19:48
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    @Machavity I know, I wasn't the one who had made up arguments to pretend there was censorship of usernames :D
    – Tom
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 20:36
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    @Tom well, there were real user names that were changed which weren’t necessarily calling for violence but contained epithets about a specific nationality. Totally justified actions from the moderators, imo, but the scenarios in the question you linked to weren’t too far from reality.
    – irowe
    Commented Dec 1, 2022 at 20:59
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    There is a difference between Bill Gates and Ryan Florence for example. Nobody will expect that the user with the name Bill Gates is actually Bill Gates, but using Ryan Florence as a username and his social links and bio can trick other users.
    – Konrad
    Commented Dec 2, 2022 at 9:28
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    In some extreme cases, users try to "get revenge" on someone who criticised them or their answer or who they think downvoted them. More commonly, employers would see what they can find online about job candidates. Someone sharing only someone else's name may be hard to verify as impersonation (as opposed to just having the same name as them). But having someone try to pass links to another person's profiles off as their own (or using their uniquely identifying information) could result in negative consequences for the impersonated person. That really shouldn't be allowed.
    – NotThatGuy
    Commented Dec 2, 2022 at 14:19
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    @rene There are currently 6698 other users with your name. Congrats, you win! :-)
    – TylerH
    Commented Dec 2, 2022 at 14:46
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Regarding the broader question you asked ("users using other people's info on their profile"), not on that specific user you mentioned:

As a person that has his real name as the username and his real image as the profile photo (I'm not on any moral high ground), I always felt a bit uncomfortable with the fact that SO (or SE sites) users can use fake names/images. But of course there's nothing one can do to enforce users providing real names/images.

Therefore, we have to be consistent. Not only the name/image can mean nothing, all the other fields in the profile can also be considered meaningless or fake. That applies to:

  • Location
  • Title
  • Website link
  • Twitter link or username
  • GitHub link or username

I know those last three can be deceptive, but there's nothing special with them: if the username and the image can be anything the user chooses, those fields can be as well.

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    "But of course there's nothing one can do to enforce users providing real names/images" - excuse me? Stack Overflow can certainly ban users who use provably fake names/images. Maybe you think that's not viable or they shouldn't do so (and that may very well be the case), but that's not quite the same as being unable to do anything about it. You also didn't say WHY there's nothing we can or should do, so we can't apply the same (unspecified) reasoning consistently. It may very well be the case that the reason why we can't do anything about a fake username doesn't apply to a fake profile link.
    – NotThatGuy
    Commented Dec 2, 2022 at 14:28
  • @NotThatGuy what I read from this answer is that users are forced to use their real name/photo/detail, not even pseudonyms, similar to a discussion on MathOverflow. And real-account verification has been officially declined
    – Andrew T.
    Commented Dec 3, 2022 at 3:56
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    @AndrewT. Whether someone uses their real name is completely different from whether someone uses a URL to a website profile that provably uniquely points to a specific individual that isn't them.
    – NotThatGuy
    Commented Dec 3, 2022 at 15:47

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