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I got to reading the Help Centre today, in particular this page, and was once again horrified by how little information users are given there in order to ask good questions.

In particular, while the "needs details or clarity" close reason is applied for questions containing images of code, there is zero mention of this in the so-called Help Centre.

While Stack Exchange Inc. has consistently refused to update the Help Centre to make it actually helpful, would they perhaps be willing to consider adding links to Meta questions that cover some of the topics in more detail? In this case, the aforelinked Meta question.

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    The Help Center page about How do I ask a good question? mentions "DO NOT post images of code, data, error messages, etc...". The problem with the help center and links to meta posts is the overwhelming amount of information one need to go through to get an idea of what is required/expected of users. On top of that, lots of users have opinions about the rules and close vote according to their opinion, which is not always what's in the information in the help center (or meta)
    – Scratte
    Commented Mar 8, 2021 at 16:40
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    I've said it before: It would be helpful to have an end-to-end user manual for Stack Overflow, that doesn't turn into an abyss of meta posts with links in a never ending spiral.
    – Scratte
    Commented Mar 8, 2021 at 16:43
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    I got to reading the Help Centre today ... never too late ...
    – rene
    Commented Mar 8, 2021 at 16:46
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    @Scratte well, if it was just one meta ....
    – rene
    Commented Mar 8, 2021 at 16:48
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    I don't like how the "help" for a user is a big dump of a lot of things that might be wrong without clear indication of what is wrong. If the problem is mentioned in the article at all. I wish there was a standardised way to provide clear, actionable steps to improve a question.
    – VLAZ
    Commented Mar 8, 2021 at 16:57
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    @Scratte The corporation's whole Q&A site model works on a disorganized non-committal evolutionary antidocumentationarianistic FAQy webby searchy Metanical Turk that isn't broke $o don't fix it. Although once in long while a meta post does get FAQed into a help center.
    – philipxy
    Commented Mar 10, 2021 at 12:52
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    @philipxy What?
    – Teemu
    Commented Mar 10, 2021 at 15:59
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    @Teemu The company doesn't seem to want to have too many things written down in the official help place (it's a relatively lean document for such a complex organization). They kind of rely on meta (which can be like a jungle) to sort problems out. Maybe they simply don't want to maintain a larger document, maybe they don't want to commit to too many details. In any case the question would be which meta questions exactly to link to. Commented Mar 10, 2021 at 16:33
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    @Trilarion That's pretty much what I managed to parse from philipxy's comment, I couldn't figure out the exact meaning of "antidocumentationarianistic", though.
    – Teemu
    Commented Mar 10, 2021 at 17:56
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    @Teemu It's a pun on "antidisestablishmentarianistic" as in antidisestablishmentarianism. Per the comment's (juxta)posing sloppy crowdsourced FAQing-up vs organized centralized prescriptivity not just syntactically, via multisyllabic stuffiness, but semantically, via--well--metaphoric antidisestablishmentarianism. (Note that the word, as distinct from the concept, has its own Wikipedia article. Which, I guess not absurdly, I expected.)
    – philipxy
    Commented Mar 10, 2021 at 18:52
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    @philipxy Thanks, I think I understand now = ). Unfortunately I'm missing a lot of fun here on Meta because of my limited English skills. At the end, the problem is, that we've too much rules. Years ago I participated a chat forum (not a Q&A), the only rule was: "Don't be a fool here", and that kinda worked.
    – Teemu
    Commented Mar 10, 2021 at 19:14
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    @Teemu That wouldn't work here with millions of users. The "you're a fool" close reason would be misused quickly. Surely you can have too many rules but that is not the problem here. The problem is that the help center is too small and meta is a jungle and both aren't connected enough and operated by different entities. Commented Mar 11, 2021 at 6:45
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    @ZevSpitz They say you cannot learn to program from reading on main SO alone because there is not enough meta structure in the pile of Q&A. In the same way you cannot learn how to use SO by reading on meta SO alone because there is not enough meta structure on meta and the gap between the pile of Q&A in meta and the help center is too large. Commented Mar 11, 2021 at 10:32
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    @ZevSpitz That's kinda the ideal - instead of walls of text, just a simple list of "do"s and "don't"s with a very short "why" next to each. It's been proposed before but, like pretty much every good proposal Meta has put forward for actually making SO more usable to newbies, was ignored. Meanwhile far more complex things, that nobody actually wants, are implemented. It really gives one the impression that SE Inc. isn't managed, so much as it is staffed by people who just work on pet projects.
    – Ian Kemp
    Commented Mar 11, 2021 at 12:25
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    @ZevSpitz One thing that worked well here is tagging. Tagging is used to indicate that a post is in the hot meta posts list, tagging is also used to indicate the status of a feature-request. We could use tagging to associate a question with a certain help center page, something like "help-center-how-to-answer" and then this question could be listed as additional reading (associated resource) below the help center article. That would make it dynamic. Now there is a tag limit. Maybe these special tags should not count towards the tag limit. Commented Mar 11, 2021 at 15:11

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Yes, I think that it should, given that the help center pages themselves are updated with a low frequency. A community defined section with a title like "Additional relevant articles on meta" at the bottom of each page would be great. It would help closing the gap between the official help center and meta, while being rather non-intrusive and also clearly delimited from the rest of the help center.

And for the decision of which questions to link to which help center pages, I propose to use the tag system. We use it for defining the Hot Meta Posts candidates and to set the status of feature-requests and there is a lot of infrastructure already available. We could have an initial discussion "Which meta Q&A should be linked to which help center pages" (maybe even split by help center pages) and then moderators would set the appropriate tags (like "help-center-how-to-answer" to indicate a Q&A should be linked from the "How to answer" page in the Help center) and the tag setting would be recorded in the post history and could be undone. This would allow to dynamically evolve this list of linked Q&A in a transparent way and with moderator oversight.

But any other system would be fine too. In general this is a good idea. Given the past track record, chances for implementation of this idea for a significant number of linked Q&A are rather low though (0.6%-0.8% approximately).

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