First things first, I don't think there should be 2 how to ask pages - that's downright confusing.
The one users see when asking their first question also has hopelessly too little information.
And the fact that the most attention on this one is given towards writing the title (something that anyone can easily edit) is just wrong.
Feel free to propose your own (specific) suggestions to change the How to Ask page.
Just to clarify - I'm not disillusioned. I know this probably isn't going to make a big difference, if any, but I think it's at least worth giving it a shot.
My main idea is to make a bunch of really short points with dropdowns (similar to the dropdowns in the Markdown help).
The page will look something like this: (obviously with a bit of fluff at the top)
- Do a Google search or two.
- Try to find the answer yourself.
- Ask a programming question and stick to the rules.
- Post a short program, but make sure anyone reading your post can reproduce the issue themselves.
- Describe your problem briefly, but completely.
- Make it relevant to others.
- Stick around a while, and check in now and again.
- Format your question properly.
- Look for help asking for help.
(I think the fourth one is probably too long, but I couldn't find a way to make it shorter without throwing away a lot of its value)
When you click each item, it will get expanded, with the text provided under each bullet below.
- ##Do a Google search or two.
... or a search on Stack Overflow.
Have you thoroughly searched for an answer before asking your question? Sharing your research helps everyone. Tell us what you found (on this site or elsewhere) and why it didn’t meet your needs. This demonstrates that you’ve taken the time to try to help yourself, it saves us from reiterating obvious answers, and above all, it helps you get a more specific and relevant answer!
- ##Try to find the answer yourself.
Code not working? Try to debug it before asking here.
Looking for some code to do something? Try to write some first.
Regardless of your problem, many may be hesitant to help you if you don't show an attempt to solve the problem (whatever it may be) yourself. So show us those attempts.
- ##Ask a programming question and stick to the rules.
Stack Overflow is for programming questions. Just programming questions.
We also have some very guidelines for what's allowed, and asking for opinions or open-ended discussions are not allowed.
If your question is about the site itself, ask on our meta-discussion site. If you're looking for a different topic, it might be covered on another Stack Exchange site.
Please stick to these guidelines. If you don't, you're going to make some users very unhappy and they're probably not going to be very nice to you.
- ##Post a short program, but make sure anyone reading your post can reproduce the issue themselves.
If you post too much code, you're much less likely to get an answer as many users will simply skip your question.
Similarly, if you don't give us a complete program, or one containing a typo because you rewrote it here, we won't be able to help.
Write a new (short) program from scratch to reproduce the issue, and post the entire program in the question itself. For more details, read How to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable Example.
You might also create a live example of the problem that you can link to (for example, on http://ideone.com, http://sqlfiddle.com/ or http://jsbin.com/), but be sure to include the code in your question itself - not everyone can access external sites, and the links may break over time.
- ##Describe your problem briefly, but completely.
If we can't understand your question, we won't be able to help you. Make sure you give us enough details and context, so we can provide a useful and relevant answer.
If you're getting an error message, give us the exact message and the relevant line numbers.
If code isn't producing the desired output, be sure to include the actual and expected output in the question.
But also be careful not to fill your question with an excessive amount of details. If you provide way too many details, most users will just skip your question.
- ##Make it relevant to others.
We realize that you may mainly be here to find an answer to your question, but if you don't try your best to phrase your question in a way that will help others in a similar situation in future, a lot of users might not want to help you.
- ##Stick around a while, and check in now and again.
Stack Overflow is fast-moving. It's pretty common to get answers within a few minutes, but more importantly, someone may not understand something about your post and request clarification. If you're not around to respond during the half-an-hour or so after you've posted your question, it's likely that most will just give up and move on, making it much less likely that you'll get an answer, even if you do respond eventually.
Similarly, if you're only going to check in a week after someone's asked for clarification, they've probably forgotten about the issue already, and are much less likely to care a whole lot compared to if you responded on the same day.
- ##Format your question properly.
(Stuff about titles, tags, proof-reading and looking at the preview - I got lazy)
- ##Look for help asking for help.
In spite of all your efforts, you may find your questions poorly-received. Don't despair! Learning to ask a good question is a worthy pursuit, and not one you'll master overnight. Here are some additional resources that you may find useful:
(Links as per this page).
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=> How to Ask,[help/how-to-ask]
=> [help/how-to-ask]