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When you close a question as duplicate with the gold-badge dupehammer, there's a grace period in which users can still answer said question.

For obvious duplicates, (familiar questions, well-known answers), this often means multiple answers will slip in, after the question is closed.

Here's a recent example. As you can see, the dupe hammer was applied before any of the answers were submitted, yet three answers got through, the last one submitted 3 minutes after closing the question.


My request is to drastically reduce this grace period, or even remove it altogether.

Answers on hammered duplicates typically add nothing new to the subject. The answer in the dupe target is usually more elaborate.
The answers do prevent downvoted duplicates from being deleted automatically.

For "non-hammer" closures, the grace period (arguably) isn't that much of a problem, because those closures usually get applied after people have had a chance to get an answer in.

Edit:

That's just absurd. What's the point in closing these questions as duplicate if users can still answer them?

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    @JonClements: Other close reasons usually aren't applied as fast as a dupe hammer. People that want to get an answer in usually have time to do so, for the other reasons.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Sep 28, 2017 at 10:38
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    I've seen too broad/no mcve applied quicker than it takes for someone to find an appropriate less common duplicate. But that's an aside - my point is that I don't believe dupe closures are special cased for the grace period and don't see why this wouldn't apply to all close reasons... An answer getting snuck in after it's closed as a tool request or POB is in the same ball park, right?
    – Jon Clements Mod
    Commented Sep 28, 2017 at 10:45
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    @CodyGray: Votes on the answers don't matter to the roomba. The fact that it's answered prevents the roomba from deleting the question. So no, not an XY problem. See the "30 days old" section in the Roomba page I linked.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Sep 28, 2017 at 10:50
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    @MartijnPieters: The 9-day roomba rule does not apply to duplicate closures: "not closed as a duplicate"
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Sep 28, 2017 at 11:30
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    I looked at the exact same thing Martijn did. Good to know that we are all consistent...ly wrong. :-)
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Sep 28, 2017 at 13:27
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    Hey, at least there's no public disagreement between mods :D
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Sep 28, 2017 at 13:32
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    Backing up, why is this a problem that needs fixing? We get questions that describe a problem differently with a link providing juice to a canonical answer, plus variant answers in this particular duplicate. Duplicates are supposed to provide juice and alternative explanations to their canonical Q&A. Commented Sep 28, 2017 at 19:19
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    @Yakk: "Answers on hammered duplicates typically add nothing new to the subject. The answer in the dupe target is usually more elaborate. The answers do prevent downvoted duplicates from being deleted automatically." Those answer are actively harming SO's content / searchability.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Sep 28, 2017 at 23:49
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    @cerebus Please provide evidence it harms searchability. The juice flows towards the dupe target... Commented Sep 29, 2017 at 0:33
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    The fact that that our dupe tree is growing deeper and deeper? Preferably, we don't want search to return any duplicates at all, but now, we're often getting more signposts than actual dupe targets in search. For example, yet another "How to return a value from this async function" question in JavaScript only dilutes that topic with another pointer to the dupe. Oh, and it's "Cerbrus".
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Sep 29, 2017 at 6:56
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    If people systematically downvoted those answers to duplicates, sooner or later nobody would dare to answer a duplicate any more. Commented Sep 29, 2017 at 13:39
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    @ImportanceOfBeingErnest: I like your optimism. But as long as a single upvote cancels out 5 downvotes, downvotes really aren't having the impact we may want them to have.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Sep 29, 2017 at 13:58
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    @ImportanceOfBeingErnest Ignoring the quality of answer and just dv because it's there. Wouldn't that be on the edge of misusing votes? Further, if someone seeks help and finds such a dup question with a downvoted answer, they will probably think it is wrong even if it is high quality. And the credibility of the site... a high quality answer with downvotes must look strange to a visitor. I'm not sure I like the idea. IMO a vote must be a vote on the actual quality - not a punishment for doing something others don't like. The latter must be dealt with in another way.
    – 4386427
    Commented Sep 30, 2017 at 2:53
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    @4386427: The downvote button says: "This answer is not useful". Answers on duplicates that get asked multiple times each week aren't useful.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Sep 30, 2017 at 8:22
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    @ImportanceOfBeingErnest “If people systematically downvoted those answers to duplicates […]” – But that doesn’t happen. I regularly hammer questions on the C# tag where 3 or more answers slipped through and easily accumulate 2 or more upvotes (even after closing). Worst part is that even very high rep users participate in this instead of actually searching for a duplicate. – There should be an incentive for not answering questions but closing them as duplicate instead. And maybe even for deleting answers after a question has been closed as a duplicate.
    – poke
    Commented Oct 1, 2017 at 1:20

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