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This is not the first and not the last time I have this issue, most questions I put the bounty on are low profile and tricky at the same time, they require some degree of expertise and usually cannot be answered with RTM or Google. A honeypot for fortune hunters.

The example is this question. It currently has no useful answers that answer the question. Due to heavy promotion during the last bounty hours one of the answers got several dummy upvotes because it looks like a good, well-formatted answer to a layman.

Thus the answer will be awarded automatically after grace period because it conforms to these criteria:

...were posted after the bounty was started

...have a score of at least +2

...were not written by the bounty starter

A honeypot turns into a tiny jackpot.

How can such situation should be handled? I hate to rally for downvoting SO fellows who answer my questions. My religion also forbids downvoting them by myself, but any way, -1 cannot do anything against several dummy upvoters.

I would consider creating another account for the only purpose of answering my own questions with bounties (if have a good answer) and draining unclaimed bounties. But can it be considered so-called 'legitimate reason'?

And as it was said, this happened to me more than once. Some SO user makes easy points (s)he hasn't earned (good for (s)him), and more importantly, a bad answer becomes marked with bounty like it was a good one.

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    There is a bit more going on here. I've deleted the post.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 14:16
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    "My religion also forbids downvoting them by myself" Wait, what? What religion forbids downvoting low-quality answers? More importantly, why does it do so?
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 14:20
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    Regarding the smurf account to award your own bounty to: no, that is definitely frowned upon. And by "frowned" I mean whipped into a ban.
    – CodeCaster
    Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 14:22
  • @CodeCaster I think religion can be replaced here with moral ;)
    – Mafii
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 8:00
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    @Mafii Moral has nothing to do with downvoting answers. The entire site exactly relies on people voting on the content, whether it is downvoting or upvoting. Not downvoting incorrect or wrong answers is actively going against the purpose of SO....
    – Tunaki
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 10:10
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    @Tunaki he meant not downvoting answers on his questions. But I agree with you.
    – Mafii
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 10:15
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    "-1 cannot do anything against several dummy upvoters" If everyone thought the same, then nobody would ever downvote. It's critical that if you think something is worthy of a downvote, that you do it, even if the post is +1000. If it's bad, eventually enough people will get it down to zero.
    – DavidG
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46
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    @DavidG But everyone won't, I'm terrible at mind control (actually, 'if everyone thought the same' is a common logical fallacy). I've been on SO long enough to have an idea where my vote really matters and where it just gives the sense of civic duty. Any way, the answerer confirmed that bad cases of 'dummy voted' answers were actually the cases of voter fraud, which explains a lot. Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 14:37
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    I agree everyone won't, but some people will, and that may be enough unless everyone has the same opinion as you. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
    – DavidG
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 14:59
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    I realize you're joking with the "religion" comment, but I'm just as confused as CodyGray. I do not get the joke; any chance you'd care to explain? Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 16:54
  • @CodyGray It could be that OP's religion prevents disparaging someone who tries to help you in good faith. Or just their moral code prevents that.
    – TylerH
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 17:52
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    Well, sure, that makes sense. Good thing a downvote isn't disparaging! Seriously, it becomes irrational if you take it to this extreme. It means you cannot tell someone that their good-faith attempt to help wasn't actually helpful, and as a person who is making a good-faith attempt, your refusal to tell me that would be insulting.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 18:22
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    Your "etiquette" is offensive to me, since it decreases the quality of the site for everyone. If you refuse to vote according to an answer's worth, I can't see at a glance that the answer is erroneous or irrelevant, which wastes my time. And time of everyone else who comes across the question. The common good here outweighs silly concerns about the meaning of a downvote. If you're taking votes personally, you are doing it wrong.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 18:30
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    @estus Voting, including downvoting isn't anything to do with being personal, it's entirely about keeping good content on the site and bad content off the site. When you vote, you are saying that post is good/bad, not the person that posted it. There's no ethics or morals here.
    – DavidG
    Commented Jan 28, 2017 at 0:12
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    But... your question is saying that the answers are in bad faith! I'm not talking about anything MartijnPieters or anyone else has said, I'm talking about what you have said! You are refusing to downvote for fear users will "take [it] personal[ly]", but you are calling those same users "reputation hunters," and their answers "pseudo answers." Why wouldn't you expect them to take that personally, as well? Commented Jan 28, 2017 at 0:58

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As you noted in a comment on the answer, the content of the answer was copied from elsewhere; this was not their own work. Please do flag such cases of plagiarism for moderator attention. The votes on the post were also not 'natural', so not just because the post looked reasonably formatted. We actually had a case of voting fraud here. I've dealt with the matter (and a few other cases).

Even so, if a post doesn't answer your question, downvote that answer. Voting is a hugely important feedback mechanism here. By downvoting, you help indicate how helpful an answer is for other visitors. Leaving a comment explaining why an answer is wrong also helps, to dissuade any actual numpty voters (which are not as common as you'd think).

Using another purposefully created account to assign the bounty to is also fraud. Don't do that, you'll end up with the same kind of moderator attention I had to use for the other answerer.

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  • Thanks, this solves the issue for the case. In similar situations, the answer wasn't bogus, it just wasn't good enough (something that deserves 0 points in normal circumstances). The answers almost always get several votes in the last couple of hours before the bounty ends (I guess the question is promoted at the front page, the question gets several votes too), so this case corresponded with my usual observations (even if this one a fraud). So, for an answer that isn't guilty of obvious abuse there's no way to prevent automatic bounty, even if it doesn't deserve it, right? Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 15:14
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    @estus: answers usually won't get upvotes unless there is some actual merit in them. The best way to prevent bad answers from gaining an automatic bounty is to downvote, and add a comment explaining why it is a wrong answer. That way other voters get to see that someone disagreed that the answer was helpful. As OP, your comments can often carry a bit more weight.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 15:16
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    @estus: but no, if an answer, in spite of you having downvoted and leaving comments, still manages to make the threshold, it'll get the auto-rewarded half of the bounty. You can't block that, nor should you be able to. Not all OPs are correct in their assessment of what is a correct answer. :-)
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 15:17
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    I've had a good case that showed the behaviour here. Both answers were subpar and had critical comments from me but received upvotes the last day. If the one wouldn't receive auto-bounty, another would do. Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 15:23
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    @estus: oh dear, you found another case of voting fraud, I'm afraid.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 15:25
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    Hah, thank you, I'll be more vigilant from this day on. Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 15:27
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    @MartijnPieters unjustified upvotes are probably rare in regular questions. But I would think twice before extending this to bountied (and hot) questions
    – gnat
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 10:30
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    @gnat: bountied questions get more attention, yes. But I've found that a well-placed comment on a wrong answer also captures that attention, influencing how non-experts vote.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 10:31
  • @MartijnPieters no comments can help if you get a voting ring trying to exploit bounty. As for hot questions, this is even more so over there without any voting rings at all because over there system encourages braindamaged upvotes on any garbage from careless passers by
    – gnat
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 12:12
  • @gnat: I'm talking about good-faith answers here. If a wrong answer gathers a lot of upvotes even with a comment, it may be time for a moderator flag to investigate why that is happening.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 12:29
  • Out of curiosity, how do you know these are cases of voting fraud? Commented Jan 28, 2017 at 22:17
  • @KyleStrand: Moderators have additional tools that help us detect fraud. I'm not going to into detail for obvious reasons.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Commented Jan 28, 2017 at 22:20
  • What would happen if the OP posted a dummy (place-holder) answer to his question (using the same account as the one that offered the bounty)? Could he select that as the best answer, and thereby cause the bounty not to be awarded at all? Commented Jan 29, 2017 at 4:16
  • I believe that I have found the answer. Commented Jan 29, 2017 at 6:24
  • @G-Man: nope, you didn't. See I just awarded myself a bounty
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Commented Jan 29, 2017 at 9:46
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Let me see if I understand the question.  (I’m feeling rather dense at the moment, so I need a reality check.)

  • You have placed a bounty on a question.
  • As the end of the bounty period approaches, the question has answer(s), but none good enough to deserve the bounty.
  • But one or more of the (bad) answers has a vote score ≥ 2 (or ≥ 3, so it will still be ≥ 2 if you downvote it) and so stands to receive the bounty (or at least half of it) automatically if you don’t take preemptive action.
  • You’re (hypothetically) considering posting a dummy answer from a sock puppet account just so you can award the bounty to that answer, rather than one of the bad one(s).

I have an answer that’s so obvious that it’s probably wrong (but I’m not sure).

Post a dummy answer from your real account (the one that offered the bounty), and award the bounty to that answer.  (And maybe delete the answer the next day.)

What will happen?

  • The Help Center says, “(You cannot award a bounty to your own answer.)”
    IANAL, but I bet a lawyer would have a field day with the ambiguity of that statement.
  • What does +0 bounty earned stand for? says that a user was able to do what I describe above.  Naturally, he didn’t get the bounty, but presumably neither did anybody else.  See the revision histories of the question (scroll down a bit if your window/screen is small) and the answer.
    Now, this transpired almost six years ago, so the rules may have changed since then.

Just for fun, here’s the user’s rep sheet:
  user’s rep sheet

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    It was already suggested in the answer that is deleted now. You can't reward the bounty to yourself. There's just no option to do that, it's not a lawyer thing. That's why I asked this question. It was possibly allowed before, but it isn't now. Commented Jan 29, 2017 at 6:31
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    You no longer can award a bounty to yourself. It was only ever possible when bounties were awarded to the accepted answer only (and self-accepting is not disallowed). When bounty awarding was decoupled from accepting answers, this changed. See I just awarded myself a bounty
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Commented Jan 29, 2017 at 9:44

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