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I'm answering questions on low traffic tags and I have always had a bit of fear of the answer ban. My tactics has been to now and then go on rep hunt in the high traffic tag Java, pass a quick answer, get some quick upvotes, and then return back under my oak tree.

This was ok since I also wanted to reach the 3K mark that I needed to clean up my home turf!

Now I'm there (3K) and I would prefer to stay and "smell the flowers".

Under the oak tree

In low-traffic tags it's not likely to get upvotes, but you manage to get answers accepted (currently I'm around 50%, accepted answer percentage rate). I would like to answer some old question in "my" tag and probably it can drop to 40%, if I do this.

I know that "the exact formula for the bans is not disclosed", but could someone give me directions on what to look out for (e.g. "accepted answer percentage rate", "number of answers in sequence not accepted nor voted")?

The question is, how does this apply "significant zero-voted answers", since answering old question in low-traffic tags easily can generate a "zero-voted" non accepted answer, maybe it is better to not do this or you need to offset with up votes on other question?

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    Just wondering what exactly makes you so jumpy about getting an answer ban? Have you ever gotten an indication that you are close to one or something like that?
    – Oded StaffMod
    Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 14:33
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    I don't think you can get an answer ban if you have only or almost only neutrally scored ones, but no (or close to no) negatively scored ones.
    – Magisch
    Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 14:35
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    No but I try to be careful and correct on how I move around on SO, and since I see that there is this feature, answering old low-traffic tags make me worry... (I could easily get 10 answers, 0 score, 0 accepted answers doing this) Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 14:35
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    Is there an indication when you get close? Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 14:40
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    But to answer your concern - you are answering questions and getting a good response (I don't see many negatively scored ones). You are very far from getting into any kind of answer ban and there was never a need to go away of the shade of your oak tree.
    – Oded StaffMod
    Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 14:46
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    I was tempted to upvote this question just for what I'm presuming is a picture from The Story of Ferdinand, because I liked that book... :) Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 15:33
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    @MikeMcCaughan - Thanks for the reference. (Now the last line makes sense!)
    – BSMP
    Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 15:55
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    @MikeMcCaughan Every Christmas in Sweden there is this cartoon and I still love it...... and I felt it was appropriate to demonstrate low-traffic tag's user vs. the rest of the bulls fighting to get noticed.... (don't get my wrong just putting some color in the post).... Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 16:03
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    AFAIK only downvotes can contribute to answer bans. Lack of upvotes has nothing to do with it; you can post 0-vote answers forever and never be in danger of being answer-banned. You are under no obligation to go hunting upvotes to offset your other posts with no upvotes.
    – user229044 Mod
    Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 17:04
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    Fyi: The existence of the Tenacious and Unsung Hero badges show that it is not a bad thing to have (a lot of) answers that are accepted, but not upvoted.
    – Sumurai8
    Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 21:30
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    Am I the only one who doesn't understand the oak tree / flowers metaphor?... Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 21:45
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    @andrewtweber, "The Story of Ferdinand".... we stay under the oak and look at the other bulls fighting. Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 21:47
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    @JohnHascall, stackoverflow.com/help/answer-bans Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 23:23
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    @meager, from the Answer bans FAQ page : "The exact formula for the bans is not disclosed, but users are only banned if they have a significant number of heavily down-voted, zero-voted, or deleted posts." Does this text need to be updated /changed ? Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 8:29
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    @MattStephenson, you published a FAQ, that someone read ; ), and you have user like me that have only been around for a couple of months, answering truck load's of questions.... Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 15:19

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Let's put it this way: if Stack Overflow's ban algorithm gets in the way of your use case, then the algorithm needs to be changed. What you're doing is fine and great and absolutely encouraged. It's what SO is meant for. Should the current ban algorithm implementation ever happen to collide with it, this is a bug that needs fixing.

Post back here with concrete details should you ever actually run into problems. Until then, smell the flowers.

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  • I really appreciate this post (it makes me full of joy to continue, improving my low-traffic tag), during this and next week. I will post some new answers on old important post where the code has been deprecated (this you can bet will have non acceptance and zero votes for some time), and if I do nice posts, I know who to call if I'm in trouble..... Thanks... Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 11:12
  • How the answer ban works will probably remain without directions, I'm accepting this post since if you try to do your best, and you manage fairly well, there is someone out there that will try to help you if you get in to troubles. Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 12:44
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    @PetterFriberg Let me put it this way: In your current mode of behavior you are so far away from an answer ban at any point that you can safely ignore the possibility if you keep doing what you're doing ("smelling the flowers")
    – Magisch
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 12:50
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You have only 1 answer, out of 248, that is negatively voted.

You're fine.

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    You don't know if he has any deleted negatively scored answers.
    – Servy
    Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 15:03
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    Sure I have (a couple), the first post on SO was not the best one.... took some time to learn how to answer.... Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 15:09
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    I rarely keep obliged to keep a downvoted post - especially when people get emotional and downvote because the post violates their internal style guide (I'm looking at you Java programmers). Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 10:34
  • @PetterFriberg And if the answer ban hits you, you are (IMHO) in full right to complain on meta and get it waived. That would be a bug in the answer ban, not your failure, and it would need to be fixed or worked around. Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 11:04
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Converting meagar's comment to answer:

AFAIK only downvotes can contribute to answer bans. Lack of upvotes has nothing to do with it; you can post 0-vote answers forever and never be in danger of being answer-banned. You are under no obligation to go hunting upvotes to offset your other posts with no upvotes.

This fully answer my doubts, I went hunting for offset votes, see you under the OAK

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    If that's the case, then the following bold text needs to change: "The exact formula for the bans is not disclosed, but users are only banned if they have a significant number of heavily down-voted, zero-voted, or deleted posts." This is from the answer bans FAQ page. Or maybe I am misreading.
    – zero298
    Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 23:16
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    @zero298, also I read it like that... that was my worry... Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 23:21
  • @zero298, there is a AFAIK (as far as I know...)... so maybe moving it to community wiki was a bit to much.... I was to happy with that answer???.... Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 23:28
  • @zero298 that part can also be a bit of disinformation in keeping with the "exact formula is not disclosed" principle. Doesn't hurt to seem more strict than you actually are (well, except when honest people start worrying for no good reason;) Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 12:26
  • No, I'm afraid it's not the case - the zero voted posts still contribute to the ban...
    – nicael
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 12:31
  • @nicael, and Andras feel free to edit the post, if you have more precis information... its community wiki... Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 12:32
  • I've already did it to correct the typo :p
    – nicael
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 12:33
  • @nicael, I have started to understand, the problem better and I don't think we will see some more detail information, to solve the problem of the order of these posts, I will accept what I think can be useful for future readers (if you try to do good and you mange doing it fairly well, someone will help you if you get answered ban) Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 12:40
  • I think that zero vote answers could potentially land in review queques and if they are not ok potentially have some effect on bans. Or if they are combined with negative vote answers. I guess this is to avoid people diluting downvotes with zero-voted answers. But that is pure speculation, though it would make sense. Another possibility is that you need a minimum amount of answers to be eligible for an answer ban and a few negative + a few zero-vote answers get you there. Putting it there could avoid flaming on meta and that they weren't warned. Commented May 10, 2016 at 12:05
  • @HopefullyHelpful, I actually have not had any problems, the truth is that I have a fairly high accepted answer %, hench the answers are not voted but accepted (aprox. 68 underscored accepted answers). Commented May 10, 2016 at 13:03
  • I know, but I'm speculating for future visitors and myself. Although they likely will only end up here after they already ran into a ban. Commented May 10, 2016 at 13:04
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Questions should be answered no matter how old they are. Outdated answers should be replaced with better answers. If you have good answers, go ahead!

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    This topic has been touched many times before. Answering old questions appears to be encouraged and appreciated.
    – bogl
    Commented Jan 11, 2016 at 14:47
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it's more than OK to rest on your ass^H^H^Hlaurels, or under your tree, as you prefer. I'm at the stage where I rarely go rep-hunting (except for a burst a couple weeks ago when I wanted to make 20k by new year), but I'll still post answers to things I've needed to know, found no good answers for, and figured out myself.

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