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I made an answer to one of my questions as community-wiki because the solution has been provided in a comment and I didn't want to gain any reputation that I didn't deserve.

So I ticked the community-wiki checkbox and have been provided with the following warning...

...where it clearly states that "doing so will remove explicit ownership [of the post]".

Therefore, I thought I might be able to up-vote it because "explicit ownership has been removed". But when I tried, I have been provided with the usual message saying that I can't vote for my own post:

I understand that I cannot do so when it's not a community-wiki answer because I'd be able to gain rep all by myself but it is not the case here.

Why the reason I cannot vote for this post (where "explicit ownership has been removed") is because it is my own post?

Isn't it a little bit contradictory?

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    Probably because removing explicit ownership means implicit ownership is retained. The original revision is still owned by you - it doesn't get relegated to the community user for example.
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Sep 17, 2015 at 8:02
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    It wouldn't gain you reputation points. But an upvote on your own CW answer would still show up in statistics, raise your upvote score for a specific tag, perhaps net you a badge, etc. Also take in mind that the CW flag is in fact reversible, so it would certainly incur a lot of exceptions just to implement that.
    – mario
    Commented Sep 17, 2015 at 8:03
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    @mario: CW answers don't count into tag scores, but other than that yeah (other badges do count).
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Sep 17, 2015 at 8:06
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    Strange logic. Any SO user that creates a post that he does not think is helpful should not create that post. So of course he'll vote it helpful, always. CW was not invented to be some kind of back-door to automatically outscore another post. Commented Sep 17, 2015 at 8:14
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    @Hans Passant: That's why reddit starts off every post with an owner upvote (though, strangely as you have said, it can be removed/changed to a downvote if the owner chooses).
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Sep 17, 2015 at 8:20
  • Also, that up votes indicate usefulness of an answer; it is generally not the case that you are in a position to judge that usefulness unless you answered your own question... Commented Sep 17, 2015 at 12:56
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    @BenKnoble: He said the answer was given in a comment rather than as an answer, and so he created a CW answer so there'd actually be an answer. Presumably, before doing that, he then tried it, and found out it was useful. Commented Sep 17, 2015 at 12:58
  • I understand this particular case @T.J.Crowder but in general (and thus likely the logic behind denying any self up votes) my point still stands Commented Sep 17, 2015 at 12:59
  • @BoltClock: I understand that but being told that I cannot upvote the post because it is my own post after having removed the explicit ownership is still a bit contradictory I think.
    – D4V1D
    Commented Sep 19, 2015 at 9:00
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    @mario: Then, a "self" up-vote on a CW answer shouldn't raise any statistic but should still be possible IMO.
    – D4V1D
    Commented Sep 19, 2015 at 9:01
  • @RAUSHANKUMAR: This question is not about questions at all (that tag should not be for "asking a question" in general on Meta, which would be utterly useless). It's also not really all that much of a discussion, although that could be argued. Commented Jul 1, 2017 at 7:19

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Because CW has never had a consistent meaning.

It doesn't really mean "the community owns it". It seems like it ought to, but I've verified* that the original poster

And if I'm not mistaken** the original owner can also still

  • edit the post without review under all circumstances (even if they lose enough rep to drop all the way to 1)
  • unilaterally review all suggested edits
  • confirm proposed dupes unilaterally
  • have votes on the post reversed automatically if detected as part of serial voting patterns against that user

None of this is consistent with the idea that it's owned by the community. The community can borrow it when they come over to visit, is all.

CW is a semantic glitch in SO's tidy design, a hack that sort of mostly works, and it's tolerated because it (more or less) fills a real need. But its meaning, in practice, is a jumble of "make it easier for others to mess with, but not too easy", "rep-denial!", and "not really a real post" — even after tweaks have been applied and outreach attempted over the years to reduce those negative aspects of its definition.

There are a few feature requests to improve on that (including one of my own), but I'm not aware of any company plans to improve it in the foreseeable future.

In this particular case, a consistently community-oriented feature probably would allow you to upvote, for one main reason: if the community as a whole is maintaining it, your personal approval of it now hinges on how good a job they're doing, since you're not solely responsible for keeping things in line. The fact that this is not permitted is a very good sign that no, the original poster, when push comes to shove, is the one that ultimately should take responsibility for everything there.

*I've seen these happen, either on my own account or in the wild
**I haven't seen these happen (yet), but know of no reason to suppose they don't

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    In case anyone's curious, I really don't have a grudge against CW. It's just that as I was working out this answer, I started really realizing just how astonishingly bad a kludge this is and how very far from its notional ideals CW falls. Commented Sep 18, 2015 at 3:35

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