I don't see "Too chatty" or "Not constructive" any more. Is this a new thing, or did I just lose my ability to use those for some reason?
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Yes, there has been an open feature on MSE to change the comment flag categories for some time. It was implemented today.
From Shog's answer:
This is the new UI for flagging comments:
(for reference this was the old UI)
The first flag replaces the former "rude or offensive" flag; the last replaces "other". The middle flag - "no longer needed" - is new, and is intended to cover both "too chatty" and the non-abusive uses of "not constructive".
Please report any bugs here on meta, and blame Adam for pushing on a Friday afternoon.
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32@cat, I almost flagged your comment as "no longer needed", except it isn't obsolete and since you weren't that wordy, not chatty either. I don't feel abused nor that you were rude, so I'm guess with asking for a moderator to judge your comment! (I remember only seeing about 2 bazillion choices BTW.)– user7014451Commented Jul 14, 2017 at 23:58
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28@dfd your eyes overflowed. You need to rebuild them as 64-bit organs. Commented Jul 15, 2017 at 15:36
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1You have 100 flags!?– user6560716Commented Jul 15, 2017 at 18:37
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20@programmer5000 You get an extra flag per 2K rep or 10 net helpful flags. Commented Jul 15, 2017 at 20:54
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2@cat Come now... changing five to three is hardly worth exaggerating to 23 bazillion...– TylerHCommented Jul 17, 2017 at 6:22
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1I once came across a comment that was asking the answerer for help with a different SO question, which I flagged as "Not Constructive". How should such a comment be flagged now? Commented Jul 17, 2017 at 7:23
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2@ZacFaragher Sounds like that would fall in the 'no longer needed' category - this comment is obsolete, chatty, or otherwise unnecessary. Commented Jul 17, 2017 at 12:21
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18"No longer needed" is not an accurate description of what Shog's post says it's meant to be used for. Simply "Not needed" (or indeed "Not useful") would make a lot more sense. When I first ran into these, I thought a long time about what to choose for a non-abusive unconstructive comment. (According to the above, I got it right, but it was never needed, not no longer needed.) Commented Jul 17, 2017 at 12:35
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6Well, it could be argued it was needed exactly a fraction of a second, at the moment the OP wrote the comment so they can express themselves, then instantly became "no longer needed" as its purpose had been filled. @T.J.Crowder Commented Jul 17, 2017 at 14:05
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2@T.J.Crowder I pushed for that verbiage as well long ago and it never went anywhere :-(– TylerHCommented Jul 17, 2017 at 15:37
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1@T.J.Crowder We can bikeshed over the word for years, and we did. We purposely expanded the dialog to include a description instead of just the name of the flag to explain the purpose of it. If you feel the name of the category is wrong, then feel free to post a new feature over on MSE explaining what needs to be changed and why. Commented Jul 17, 2017 at 15:43
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7@bluefeet: That term is overused. It's not bikeshedding when something is objectively wrong. (And yes, adding the description was a good thing.) Commented Jul 17, 2017 at 15:47
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@T.J.Crowder As I mentioned, we discussed the new terms for a long time going back and forth over what they should be called. Go ahead and post a feature request proposing new wording. Commented Jul 17, 2017 at 15:49
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2@Fred-ii- I'd suggest you RTFMSEABS9 (read the fascinating meta stack exchange answer by Shog9) about this. I thought it was pretty enlightening as to the intent of the new simplified close reasons. I think based on that answer and the comments there I'd probably flag RTFMs as rude, where I probably would have used not constructive ("slightly desctructive") before. Commented Jul 17, 2017 at 23:21