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The Photography Stack Exchange site is about the art and science of photography, which is the making of images with light.

Many people want to use consumer cameras as sensors and measuring devices, which seems reasonable because the are ubiquitous and cheap. But because they are made for photography, they're not really geared for this kind of thing. Answering questions about how a consumer camera is not really working well for machine vision or scientific analysis is repetitive and tedious. And it's not really any more on topic than someone asking

I want to weigh a bag of rice and I don't have a set of weights, so can someone tell me how heavy the Canon 5D is?

or

I have a bunch of nails and need to hang up some pictures. Which lens is best for hammering them in?

Sure, those are about about camera gear, but it's not about photography. The site isn't https://camera-gear.stackexchange.com/.

Additionally, these are usually one-off questions, or a series of questions around the non-photographic use case. They don't help build a community of practice around actual photography.

Perhaps there is room for a site about computer vision where these kind of things would be on topic. But if there's a question about image processing or measuring things from image metadata or anything like that, please don't send the questioner to Photography.SE. That just makes everyone frustrated.

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    Can you provide the links of the migrated posts?
    – user3956566
    Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 20:54
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    If you don't want to "name and shame" then raise a flag against the post. I've looked through recent migrations and I can't find anything to Photography.
    – ChrisF Mod
    Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 20:55
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    This is prompted by photo.stackexchange.com/questions/105720/…, where the question-asker says "I was redirected here from stack overflow" — I presume it was a "helpful" suggestion in comment or a closed-off-topic reason.
    – mattdm
    Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 20:56
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    Ah yes. I wish people wouldn't leave those. Unfortunately they used an unregistered account on Photography so I can't track them back to SO.
    – ChrisF Mod
    Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 20:58
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    Ah, the classic “please stop using our site as your toilet bowl” plea. I guess it was inevitable. I wish there was more we could do to stop this. If you see any comments suggesting asking there, please flag them.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 21:18
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    Sorry, our septic tank is full. There's bound to be overflow.
    – canon
    Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 21:27
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    It would be great if people would just not recommend other SE sites for anything unless they're actually familiar enough with the other site to know what's on topic there. It's really even worse than answering when you have no idea what you're talking about. Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 21:28
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    I'm confused, the post in question appears to be ontopic to your site given the tags they've managed to find. If you don't want these kinds of questions, i'm not sure why you have an image processing tag. I'd hardly blame the user for asking that question, even without being directed there. Your own help center doesn't really outline these situations either. Your own answer to the question links to another, apparently acceptable, very similar question on your site, and you hint towards there being "zillions of other questions on the same topic". I'd hardly call the migration unwarranted.
    – Krupip
    Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 21:32
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    @mattdm You're a site about the art and science of photography but that doesn't include how the area of a plane captured at a known distance in a photograph can be calculated from the measurements of the lens and aperture and stuff? I know nothing about cameras, but that looks to me like a clear, interesting, widely applicable question about the science of photography. What am I missing?
    – Mark Amery
    Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 21:33
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    @opa The question asked doesn't appear to be about image processing (as defined by the tag wiki.) It does appear to be at least roughly about optics, though. Optics appears to be the only tag on that question that really should be there. Honestly, the 'physics' and 'camera' tags seem like they're probably kind of useless on that site. I can certainly see the argument that the asker of that question didn't do much (or any) research before asking it, but I tend to agree that it does seem like it should be on-topic for a photography Q&A.
    – reirab
    Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 21:41
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    @reirab Ah, that's business as usual. Site recommendations in comments on Stack Overflow to sites the person recommending isn't active should be taken with very large servings of salt.
    – Erik A
    Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 21:44
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    The comments from opa and Mark Amery are spot on. I couldn't find anything in your help center that indicates this is not on-topic; and there is a well-received question with some good answers that would make an excellent dupe. In any case, this is not a problem for Stack Overflow to solve - especially since it was not the result of a migration.
    – BJ Myers
    Commented Mar 6, 2019 at 22:30
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    @mattdm If you believe the question in question is not a great fit for the site, why did you answer it?
    – Daedalus
    Commented Mar 7, 2019 at 0:24
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    I was confused by the site's scope as well, if it wasn't for some users in the chat room of photography.SE I would still think that scientific / industrial / machine vision questions were welcome; I recommend adding something to your don't ask page very clearly explaining this; it is explained in your meta but meta topics are rather poorly indexed by Google from my experience whereas rather scientific posts on photography.SE are easy to find.
    – jrh
    Commented Mar 7, 2019 at 21:55
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    ... It seems like the scope of your site is "You can ask about the science of optics and anything related to how a camera works as long as the picture is an end in itself.", maybe a bullet point like that would suffice. I have to agree with @opa that having an image-processing is confusing and you may want to call it something more like "image-enhancement" so that perhaps it could cover topics like aesthetic filters like blur without including pattern recognition algorithms, edge detection, blob detection, etc...
    – jrh
    Commented Mar 7, 2019 at 22:03

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There's no system mechanism for migrating questions from here over to Photography.SE, so there's nothing we can do at a system level to change or prevent this.

One thing you could do is have a chatroom on Photography.SE that uses a bot to monitor mentions of the Photography.SE site and posts a message in the chatroom for members to come educate users on an ad-hoc basis. The folks at CodeReview.SE do this already as a lot of people recommend that site for questions the CodeReview.SE community feels are inappropriate.

As for the question that prompted this, it's sending a bit of a mixed signal here that you consider it a bad fit for your site, and yet you also answered the question. Typically, at least on Stack Overflow, if a question is off-topic or shouldn't be asked, the proper thing to do is close it/downvote it, not answer it; answering such questions sends the signal to readers/askers that such questions are OK even in the face of closure.

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    "it's sending a bit of a mixed signal here that you consider it a bad fit for your site, and yet you also answered the question" with a non-answer, btw.
    – Braiam
    Commented Mar 8, 2019 at 14:56
  • @Braiam right or wrong, Photo.SE is one of the friendlier communities and, if you search through closed questions, many of them have answers. We realize that just because a question isn't a good fit, doesn't mean we can't offer up some advice to the poster, who will hopefully stick around and engage more with the community.
    – Hueco
    Commented Mar 8, 2019 at 16:58
  • @Hueco I'm asserting that the "mixed signals" that Tyler sees, aren't mixed. mattdm isn't answering the question that he believe it should be closed, he's using the answer box to type a comment.
    – Braiam
    Commented Mar 8, 2019 at 17:03
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    @Braiam "yes" is a valid (albeit not very useful) answer to the question "can X be used to determine Y", so the answer on Photography.SE is not a non-answer.
    – TylerH
    Commented Mar 8, 2019 at 17:04
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    @TylerH "How to do X" "Yes" is not an answer. People often asks "It's X possible" when they mean "how to do X". Come on, you are a seasoned user on SE, you should know this.
    – Braiam
    Commented Mar 8, 2019 at 17:08
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    @Hueco My point on the mixed message is that you are going to have a bad time trying to prevent this kind of question if you answer them (either via an answer or a comment), regardless of whether you then close them.
    – TylerH
    Commented Mar 8, 2019 at 17:16
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    @Braiam I am a seasoned user, so I know to go look at what question is actually being asked. It's not "How to do X" like you suggest, but rather "can X be used to determine Y" as I said. In fact, the exact question is Is there a way to calculate the real width and height of the image?. This is a yes or no question. If you contain ESP, that's a nice gift, but the rest of us have to rely on what is actually asked rather than assuming OP means something different from what they asked.
    – TylerH
    Commented Mar 8, 2019 at 17:17
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    @TylerH it doesn't take ESP to know that "is there a way to do X, given Y" has an implicit "and if yes, how?" attached, it takes a basic experience with human communication.
    – mbrig
    Commented Mar 8, 2019 at 18:38
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    @mbrig You're right, ESP would allow you to actually know true things. Just making up stuff like your suggestion wouldn't be reliable enough to earn the label ESP. A good answer to that question will answer the question, and if possible, include methodology for doing it. An acceptable answer will answer the Q. But if the answer is "no", do you expect an answerer to say "and here are all the ways you can't do it"? Of course not; that's absurd. So too is demanding someone provide more information than you asked for. Understanding that takes more than basic experience with human communication.
    – TylerH
    Commented Mar 8, 2019 at 19:38
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    In this case, I felt inclined to provide an answer because the questioner said they'd been sent there from Stack Overflow, which wasn't their fault. I agree that it sends mixed messages in general.
    – mattdm
    Commented Mar 8, 2019 at 23:31

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