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This concerns: https://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/21667381

My edit was pending for >45 minutes, then it was rejected ("This edit conflicted with a subsequent edit") after a 2k+ user made another edit. According to the timeline, this subsequent edit was made from the Help and Improvement queue.

Is it expected/desired behaviour to have H&I edits override pending suggested edits?

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    We are, and we cannot make an edit ourselves while an suggested edit is pending. Something seems to have gone wrong here.
    – user247702
    Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 13:16
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    on the timeline it looks like it was edited from the help and improvement queue, maybe that bypasses restrictions on pending edits?
    – ivarni
    Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 13:20
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    Perhaps they clicked edit and went to grab a coffee, go for a shower and have lunch, then finished it when they returned? Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 13:22
  • Well, they can hit "Reject and edit" and then their own edit goes through immediately, but I'm not sure if that causes the message "This edit conflicted with a subsequent edit".
    – Mr Lister
    Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 13:32
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    Done. It could be intended behaviour, but my problem with that is that a good suggested edit could be lost that way and replaced by a less good H&I edit.
    – user247702
    Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 13:48
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    I noticed this before (but I didn't get around to reporting it). In the case I saw, the edit was pending for like 4 hours and then it was rejected. I think this is a bug.
    – Laurel
    Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 13:50
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    If I'm following the timeline correctly, you proposed your edit while the question was in the H&I queue. The whole point of that queue is to get the question edited, so I don't find it at all surprising that an edit submitted there gets applied despite a separate suggested edit being pending. That having happened, I see no alternative but to reject the pending edit, just as in fact was done. I think this is just a risk of proposing edits (as opposed to editing when you have the rep to skip review). Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 19:06
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    It seems like a technical feature, but those rejected edits (which are conflicts with a subsequent edit) make common stat of user's suggestions looking very sad. Personally, I have 3 rejected suggestions and 2 of them are by the same reason as OP had. Now when I suggest something, I can see string ... and 3 edit suggestions rejected. Why system can't marks those rejections as rejected by system or something else? I think when someone is inspecting my suggestion he/she could look at my stat and decides: "Well, this man has lots of rejected suggestions. Get one more now!". Very sad issue.. Commented Dec 13, 2018 at 16:15
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    Wouldn't it be great if suggested edits were visible in the H&I queue? The H&I queue could tell the reviewer something like "hey, there is already a suggested edit for this question: ... (approve) (approve and edit) (reject)" (and if the reviewer hits reject he gets the opportunity to edit it himself)
    – Michael
    Commented Dec 14, 2018 at 10:55
  • It's certainly still a thing. I regularly got lengthy suggested edits rejected by community for near-identical edits before I got over 2000 reputation and it's quite annoying. I've just tested it on by looking for a ticket in the Help and Improvement queue that had a trivial edit pending. I couldn't see it in the queue, and by making a trivial change, it has now summarily rejected the suggested edit. stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/25407033 It doesn't make sense why H&I queue reviewers can't be shown existing pending edits to avoid arbitrarily rejecting the efforts of others.
    – David Buck
    Commented Feb 20, 2020 at 13:48
  • @DavidBuck TBF, a user can override a suggested edit an any time, it doesn't have to be in the H&I queue, they just need to navigate to https://stackoverflow.com/posts/<postid>/edit Commented Feb 20, 2020 at 14:00
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    @NickA I understand that, but I assume the points discussed above is that H&I reviewers are generally making their edits this oblivious to the presence of a suggested edit. Whilst there's a lot of questions in the H&I queue that are impossible to 'help', some can be assisted with some rigorous editing, but it's a waste of time if someone else has already has a good pending edit, and frustrating for them when community rejects it.
    – David Buck
    Commented Feb 20, 2020 at 14:07

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