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There are certain SO features I use that are not available on the SE app, so I (prefer to) use Chrome (on iPhone) in "fullsite" mode.

The new nav bar doesn't zoom - it widens to the right (left edge locked) as you zoom, but widens so quickly that before it becomes legible, the right hand side (the bit I want to see) is off screen.

When zooming in portrait orientation, the nav detail is still microscopic as it disappears off screen to the right - the nav bar numeric detail (eg "achievements" etc) is never legible in portrait.

When zooming in landscape, it is barely legible before it disappears, but the clickable (touchable) parts are so tiny, it is virtually impossible to "click" them (they are only about 1mm across).

Essentially, the new nav is more or less nearly useless to me, and is certainly much less useful and much harder to use than the old version.

Question:

Can the nav bar be made to not widen as I zoom, so I can zoom and slide right to see the right hand edge? Or some other CSS kung fu applied that means I can usefully zoom into all parts of nav bar?

Or

Can there be an option at the bottom to use the old version of the nav (like the fullsite option)? I would change back in a second if I could.

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  • To clarify: you're using the full website on a mobile browser, right? I did pose a question about the mobile version of the site to see if they'd incorporate the new style, but I'm not sure if it's getting as much consideration - either good or bad.
    – Makoto
    Commented Feb 21, 2017 at 23:35
  • @Makoto yes, fullsite on mobile browser - I'll make the clear in Q.
    – Bohemian Mod
    Commented Feb 21, 2017 at 23:36
  • Do you have sticky nav enabled? Mine's disabled and I'm not experiencing any trouble with Edge on W10M.
    – user247702
    Commented Feb 21, 2017 at 23:41
  • @Stijn How do I do that on an iPhone/Chrome?
    – Bohemian Mod
    Commented Feb 21, 2017 at 23:43
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    Yep. That fixed it :) (except I visited www. not meta.)
    – Bohemian Mod
    Commented Feb 21, 2017 at 23:48
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    FWIW, Chrome on Android appears to automatically "unsticky" the top-bar when you zoom in; guessing this is a feature they couldn't fake on iOS.
    – Shog9 Mod
    Commented Feb 22, 2017 at 0:13
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    @Shog9 Sure, just as pointless as the distinction between Stack Overflow and Quora.
    – user4639281
    Commented Feb 22, 2017 at 1:36
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    @pawel the disable sticky is a good enough work around, but it is useless if you don't enable that, and practically no one knows about it, so virtually all mobile users will be annoyed. Can't you just remove the "cool" stickiness which is actually crap for mobile users, maybe make it default enabled for mobile, disabled for desktop? Ie have 2 settings? Note too the reverse logic; you enable the option to disable the setting. The option should be reversed in name, ie "enable sticky", so the presence of a check mark agrees with enabling the option.
    – Bohemian Mod
    Commented Feb 22, 2017 at 7:28
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    we're trying to not add too many options - it's really hard to maintain things that are customizable. and still - we have preference for stickiness and it might be weird for users if we ignore that preference on mobile only because it's mobile. also most of mobile users actually use mobile theme, so this is not a problem for them (re: "all mobile users will be annoyed").
    – Paweł Staff
    Commented Feb 22, 2017 at 7:34
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    @Paweł: Can the settings option be reversed? I mean rather than keeping the sticky on by default and then disabling it in settings, can it be like unsticky by default and then enabling it in settings? That way most people would be happy (IMO guessing the sentiment from many meta posts on the same topic).
    – Abhitalks
    Commented Feb 22, 2017 at 12:03
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    @Abhitalks that would beat the whole point of the new top bar. Commented Feb 22, 2017 at 12:31
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    @paw quite so; mobile users who select fullsite mode will be annoyed. Abhitalks has a point: Why not opt out of sticky by default? And that leads to a bigger question... who exactly says that the sticky option is a good idea? If it's such a great idea, why not put it to a community vote and let the debate/trial begin? If you want to reduce maintenance/options, one good way would be to eliminate sticky nav altogether. Sticky has few benefits IMHO; on iPhone you can one-tap (top edge) to instantly scroll to the top of a web page anyway. What does that leave as stick's value proposition?
    – Bohemian Mod
    Commented Feb 22, 2017 at 12:35
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    @shadow and what exactly is the point of the new nav bar's sticky mode (over the new nav bar's non-sticky mode)? Are the benefits more pronounced in sticky mode? Would it work (as well) if there was no sticky option? Have there been A/B tests? Is there any doc?
    – Bohemian Mod
    Commented Feb 22, 2017 at 12:41
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    you can find more details on reasoning here
    – Paweł Staff
    Commented Feb 23, 2017 at 9:46
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    @Pawe: There's an easy solution. In the CSS, put a media query for a screen size smaller than x that disables the sticky header automatically. Commented Feb 23, 2017 at 16:48

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To turn off stickiness, visit:

and check the Disable stickiness option.

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