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I was going through the low quality post review queue and got this question. I am 99.99% certain that it is an audit as it is a question and the LQ queue no longer does questions. I right clicked on the question title and opened the question in a new tab to confirm my suspicions and sure enough Inject javascript gecko fennec has 5 upvotes. My problem is that in my opinion this is a low quality post but if it is an audit I will fail if I vote to close.

What should I do in situations like this? Should I:

  • Pass the audit and get on with my life?
  • Pass the audit and then bring it to meta to have it question removed from the audit pool?
  • Skip it and give it a down vote/close vote. possibly submit to the SO Close Vote Reviewers chat room / create meta post?

Right now I have done nothing with the review.

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    Yeah, it's an audit case because of the votes. It's yet another instance where a question received a large number of upvotes entirely due to it having a bounty at one point. Sounds like the Low Quality Posts queue doesn't currently exclude those from audits: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/300560/… but other queues do.
    – Brad Larson Mod
    Commented Aug 3, 2015 at 19:20
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    What is an audit?
    – lolesque
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:03
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    I think you already did the right thing by raising it on meta to highlight it is a bad audit. Note how the meta-effect has taken over and fixed it. Good one. Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:03
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    @lolesque see this question
    – Caninonos
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:03
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    @lolesque an audit is a review that has a "know" outcome. If you review it correctly you pass otherwise you fail. Too many failed audits will lead to a review ban Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:04
  • What do you mean you "right clicked the question title"? (thank you for the fix. I thought that was the case)
    – Cayce K
    Commented Aug 5, 2015 at 12:08
  • @CayceK The question title is a link to the querstion. I right clicked on it an opened it in a new tab. I have edit the question. Commented Aug 5, 2015 at 12:12
  • I failed an audit today. I think it was first posts (question). I tried commenting to say the question body was very long, then it failed me. Otherwise, the question was good... Does anything happen if we fail audits?
    – user3373470
    Commented Aug 5, 2015 at 21:14
  • @HunterStevens If you fail to many you could get review banned. Commented Aug 5, 2015 at 21:43
  • @NathanOliver - how do Inject JavaScript into Fennec? Why do you think this question is bad? It's readily answerable, though the English is not so good. Commented Aug 5, 2015 at 21:54
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    @superluminary I consider the question as to broad and I would and did vote for it to be that. The question is very general and so it could get lots of different answers. Commented Aug 5, 2015 at 22:09
  • @superluminary I am not an expert so I don't know. I voted how I felt and the community seams to agree. If you fell it should be open you could always cast a reopen vote. As of right now I see no one has. Commented Aug 6, 2015 at 0:06
  • @NathanOliver thank you. I have only failed 2 since I earned the privilege (a couple of weeks). I think the first was a mistake, and the second was just a comment. Not even a down vote.
    – user3373470
    Commented Aug 6, 2015 at 12:34

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That depends on your alignment:

  • If you are lawful good, pass the audit, then go to the question and vote-to-close.

  • If you are neutral good, pass the audit and get on with your life.

  • If you are chaotic good, skip/fail the audit, then go to the question and vote-to-close.

I won't cover neutral or evil options because only good people ask questions on Meta, right?

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    total +1 for D&D reference. Commented Aug 3, 2015 at 19:25
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    I like this term Chaotic good +1
    – Moudiz
    Commented Aug 3, 2015 at 20:31
  • @Moudiz Of course, the term is not my own.
    – TylerH
    Commented Aug 3, 2015 at 20:32
  • @TylerH not familar with this game but it sounds good
    – Moudiz
    Commented Aug 3, 2015 at 20:38
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    Surely passing the audit by knowingly providing the desired answer - instead of the honest one - would be chaotic? And lawful would be following the rules even though you know you'll fail?
    – Ant P
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:00
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    @AntP Following the rules, even when you disagree with them personally, is lawful behavior. This is actually one of the most common paradoxes that lawful characters often face; what to do when their personal or sworn code/belief system conflicts with the law.
    – TylerH
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:03
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    But following the rules of an audit means giving an honest answer, not fudging it to make sure you give the answer that will pass when you know it's not the right one (i.e. cheating).
    – Ant P
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:06
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    @AntP If the audit system were perfect, yes, but the system is inherently flawed (as this question illustrates). An unflawed system would not erroneously mark bad questions as good questions and then disguise those "good" questions as bad ones for the purposes of an audit. Failing the audit on principle could prevent you from helping others in the future by suspending your ability to audit. A chaotic good person values personal freedom over systems and rigors; they would never do what was expected (marking this audit as "Looks OK") if they felt it were wrong.
    – TylerH
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:14
  • @AntP The audit system is not an honesty test. There's no way to cheat by pressing the wrong answer. It is designed to make sure you are paying attention, not making the right choices.
    – TylerH
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:15
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    I can see where you're coming from but I very much disagree - the audit system is supposed to be a transparent part of the review system and its intended use is for you to apply your knowledge of the rules and conventions of the site as you would any other review item. Using your intuition to detect an audit and deduce the desired answer is intentionally undermining the system albeit with good intentions. I guess it's a matter of perspective.
    – Ant P
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:19
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    @AntP The whole point of the audit system is to prevent robo-reviewing. There's nothing wrong with opening every single question you review in a new tab to check whether it's an audit or not; the SO team would actually probably prefer that, because it means you're providing each answer with extra individual attention. Even if you are only doing it to avoid failing audits (e.g. the "wrong" reasons), it's still inadvertently a good practice.
    – TylerH
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:25
  • I never said there was anything wrong with it but that's a workaround to a flaw in the system (known bad audits), it's not the intended use case.
    – Ant P
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:26
  • @AntP Sorry; I assumed that when you said "(i.e. cheating)" you were implying it was wrong.
    – TylerH
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:27
  • Cheating was maybe not the best word.
    – Ant P
    Commented Aug 4, 2015 at 16:28
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Skip the audit, downvote it, and move on.

From Shog's answer here:

Right now, these audit questions are selected using the following criteria:

  • Recently asked
  • Score between 5 and 15 (inclusive)
  • Never locked, migrated, or deleted
  • No close votes or downvotes, ever (only for close/reopen audits)
  • (On Stack Overflow) at least 100 views

In this case, receiving a downvote would remove it, since it's previous score was 5, and the downvote would knock it out below the score threshhold.

Also, in the Close Review and Reopen review, a downvote or close vote is also sufficient.

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  • Is there a reason you would skip the audit instead of passing it? Commented Aug 3, 2015 at 19:32
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    I don't waste my time on bad audits; it's one more vote I could use for a legitimate review Commented Aug 3, 2015 at 19:33
  • Ah okay. I forget that audits count as a review item. Commented Aug 3, 2015 at 19:33

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