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We all know down voting a question (Q) is free - and long may it stay so.

And we all also know down voting an answer (A) costs the answerer 2 rep and the down voter 1 rep.

If the latter was changed to say {answerer:2; downvoter:3} this would certainly reduce down voting answers.

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    What does this change benefit? Why would the person downvoting be penalized more than the person who answered? We want people to use their downvotes on low quality, poor answers - this would dissuade people from doing that.
    – Taryn Mod
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 20:40
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    You aren't providing any reasons, why this is a good idea to implement. Why not? isn't really a reason. It's typically helpful to include reasons why we should implement a change, especially a big change to how reputation works.
    – Taryn Mod
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 20:42
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    "why not????????" is not an argument. Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 20:43
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    If anything we should be encouraging more downvoting on wrong answers.
    – ChrisF Mod
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 20:43
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    Take your downvote. Take it, and like it.
    – user1228
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 20:51
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    "...was I consulted?" Were you a part of the group making the rules for English football? No? Then why would they need to consult you? Here, we are all part of the rule changing process. To get something changed, you need to convince other members of the community with facts and arguments for why your proposal is a good idea. At the same time, you need to convince the SE team that it's worth the development time.
    – Kendra
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 21:05
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    I bet the guy who first proposed the change to football had a better presentation to the others he had to convince than "why not????????" Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 21:11
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    @JonMarkPerry Actually, I peronally wouldn't care. All the answers I've downvoted that are still live, which are very few, were 100% worth the downvote and I'd downvote them more if I had the chance. I personally do not see how this would be helpful to the site or to increasing the quality of questions and answers, and you are making little to no effort to prove it would be a useful change.
    – Kendra
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 21:37
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    Making personal attacks against your opponents rather than giving evidence to support your recommendations is not a good way to convince anyone that you're right. Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 21:38
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    lol, its actual quite hard to get downvotes on answers; those who do deserve it.
    – user4413591
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 21:42
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    why should the system discourage downvoting LQ answers? Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 21:55
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    A) I disagree with your suggestion, which on face value would be detrimental to the site, and you've not provided a rational argument to the contrary; B) You seem combative even though folks are just giving feedback, and you provide no constructive arguments, nor seem to accept anyone else's logic; C) You have yet to even tell me why this is a good idea and why it will improve the system, a basic bottom level requirement for a feature request, especially as you suggest changing a major element of the site - voting (up and down) is a part of the core of how Stack works;
    – James
    Commented Mar 14, 2015 at 9:22
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    D) I believe you propose this change because you receive a lot of downvotes. It is terrible that (if) you would happily push rep loss to your fellow users to avoid your receiving it, and rather than simply playing your part in the community by improving your questions and answers. Take this question and answer of yours as an example: stackoverflow.com/questions/28977240/javascripts-interpreter - it is a poor question, and that and your answer helps no-one to be honest. Seems there is no time, thought, or much effort put into them at all.
    – James
    Commented Mar 14, 2015 at 9:30
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    to risk someone getting the wrong stick end, and to play the Avacado of the Devil, how about {3:1}, i.e. the answerer -3 DVer -1
    – JMP
    Commented Mar 14, 2015 at 13:23
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    @JonMarkPerry I think you meant "play Devil's advocate". Commented Mar 14, 2015 at 16:46

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In my opinion, downvotes on answers are way more rare than downvotes on questions, yet you suggest to increase the penalty on the downvoter of the answer rather than suggest a rework on question downvotes (which would have at least a little more success than this one.)

  1. Currently, it costs 0 rep to downvote a question.
  2. It also costs 1 rep to downvote an answer.
  3. Downvoted material causes the poster to lose 2 rep per downvote.

Therefore, the way I see it, your suggestion should be to increase the penalty on the poster whenever an answer is downvoted because currently, answers are only downvoted for the following reasons:

  1. Revenge Voting
  2. Very wrong answers
  3. Answers that do nothing to answer the question
  4. Incomplete Answers
  5. Spam / Offensive
  6. Answers with only code/links without a speck of explanation.
  7. Unreadable Text (Including, but not limited to: lack of punctuation, ALL CAPS, several spelling issues, severe formatting issues (especially with code), etc)
  8. (On Meta Only) Disagreement with the answer

Otherwise, downvotes on answers are very few for any other reason. Therefore, if you have a ton of frequently downvoted answers, it is probably because your answers contribute almost nothing; the -1 rep penalty is enough to dissuade most people from just downvoting answers because they can.

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    Revenge votes by the way are rare.....
    – user4413591
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 21:59
  • "Revenge votes by the way are rare..... " Not that rare really. But fixed automatically from a system engine's script. Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 22:39
  • How about DVing is only allowed if theDVer leaves a comment, and the DV can in turn be revoked by peer pressure?
    – JMP
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 22:52
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    @JonMarkPerry: please search this site regarding DV only with comments. As noted, this has been debated to death, and likely will result in many worthless comments, such as "down-voted answer for yucks" and such. Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 23:05
  • @πάνταῥεῖ - I meant a random votes here and there that are not caught by the system's script
    – user4413591
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 23:39
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    @JonMarkPerry Look, if you seriously cannot avoid/take downvotes on your answers, please do not post them rather than annoy us all with a suggestion that no sane person would accept.
    – user4413591
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 23:41
  • i have never posted a deliberately wrong answer. in fact i was quite surprised they were dv'ed. can u take dv's - what's the secret?
    – JMP
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 23:44
  • One of your answers - That must've originall fell under the 7th item based on the comments. Also, you just gave a blob of txt without explaining it. I see nothing wrong with the downvotes on the post.
    – user4413591
    Commented Mar 13, 2015 at 23:50
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    "can u take dv's - what's the secret?" -- provide a lot of answers that get UV'd. Then just ignore the DV's, or better, focus on improving your DV'd answers so that they get UV'd. Commented Mar 14, 2015 at 0:07
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    Also, @JonMarkPerry, Deleting all your downvoted answers could get you an answer ban much faster and most certainly do not help you when it comes to answer bans. I've noticd you deleted two of your downvoted answers today (don't ask how), so I thought I'd give you fair warning.
    – user4413591
    Commented Mar 14, 2015 at 2:30
  • you get a badge for it - 'peer pressure' if its score is -3 or less, so that would be a tad hypocritical
    – JMP
    Commented Mar 14, 2015 at 2:32
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    I strongly recommend you read this and this. @JonMarkPerry The former links to the article on answer bans, the latter links to how to write a good answer; seriously, its not hard, just pay attention and don't answer unless you know it will solve the problem.
    – user4413591
    Commented Mar 14, 2015 at 2:35
  • Lastly, everything I said in this post mainly applies to answers; there are a few more reason why questions are downvoted, but you do not seem to have a problem with that....
    – user4413591
    Commented Mar 14, 2015 at 14:19

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