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In advance, this is not a duplicate of Comments can't contain that content? or Comments can't contain that content - "+1", because neither concern the same content. This is both a request for clarification of a specific problem and a feature request for a site change. I'm also not expressing any opinion on the quality of the post in question itself, just the subject matter.

I attempted to direct someone to vendor-specific support for a problem that is specific to their own situation, that is highly unlikely to benefit future readers here. I received the following error:

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I'm somewhat confused. What specific part of that content isn't allowed? There seems to be nothing that violates any guidelines here; I'm attempting to direct this user to help for a situation that is too localized to be of general use.

(I had first used this link, and thought it was the culprit, so I edited to use a more generic version, but received the error shown.)

Rather than a broad Comments cannot contain that content., this error should specify what content isn't allowed, particularly when it isn't something like +1 or Me too. The error is similar to a compiler error that says There's a problem with your code, which of course is meaningless.

What should I change to allow me to guide this poster to a possible solution to this issue?

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    What a mess of a comment filter...
    – Mysticial
    Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 6:15
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    Maybe you need some exclamation mark to show the system that you're serious? Just a guess!!!!!
    – Theolodis
    Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 7:40
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    FastReport (or someone who hates them) was a huge spammer for the site hence the content that must be removed is the link to their site (which is blacklisted by domain). As a workaround I've used URL shortener once when I was posting a similar comment (but it's annoying). Either we could give them another chance, or e.g. allow to post links to their domain only to users with certain level of reputation. (related)
    – TLama
    Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 8:01
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    If the rejection message was too specific about what's wrong, users would probably just do the simplest thing to bypass the rejection, i.e. add an asterisk in a suitable place or something. So there is a reason the message is vague. But it's annoying when it happens and you have no idea how to fix a perfectly fine comment.
    – tripleee
    Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 8:10
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    (Thinking out loud, maybe you can URL-encode the parts the filter dislikes?) </smirk>
    – tripleee
    Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 8:11
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    When considering a work-around for this problem, I certainly wouldn't encourage people to fiddle/shorten the URL so that filter doesn't trigger. Instead, just omit the link and people will find it via Google easy enough. Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 11:03
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    @tripleee I've heard that justification for these vague error messages before, and it's total nonsense. If the user has any hope of fixing their comment, they have to know what was wrong with it. So they have the option of using trial-and-error until they find out what part was not allowed, or just abandoning their comment altogether. Both of those options suck.
    – JLRishe
    Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 11:09
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    @JLRishe if the purpose of the comment filter was to fix the comment, that would be one thing. If the purpose of the comment filter was to block certain content which historically has required moderator attention, and the moderators don't have the time/inclination to deal with, then preventing the comment entirely is a success of the filter if it was a successful hit in the first place. Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 14:43
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    @Yakk Quite often the side effect of "successfully" preventing comments is that it creates frustration for users who are just trying to use the site without living under a nanny state. The site has built-in safeguards against the word "accept" because apparently that word hurts people's feelings, but it seems that blocking their comments and playing mind games with them with the intent of getting them to abandon their comment is fair game.
    – JLRishe
    Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 15:31
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    @JLRishe I don't know if that is the intent or not. I'm just noting that, from the moderators perspective, mass-filtering stuff that causes them to waste their time (and reduce their time waste) looks awesome. Measuring if it causes users to leave the website, get angry on the website in other ways, or just makes their lives suck is difficult, but measuring "it seems to reduce my workload" is easy. When you rely on measurement, you bias towards things that are easy to measure. Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 15:55
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    comment blocking (at least for suspected spammy content like that) should probably be disabled for users with sufficient reputation
    – gnat
    Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 17:11
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    @TLama: Thanks for that info. I'd missed the SE Meta post you linked. I think it's ludicrous that URL blocking like that is being done here for comments. I can see it for answers that are spamming content, but comments are meant to be transitory in nature. I've left a different comment for the poster of that question phrased differently (and linked here to the image so they can see the URL, at least). I'd still like an "official* (mod or SE employee) explanation of why this is necessary, particularly for users with some level of experience here.
    – Ken White
    Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 23:24
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    @tripleee: If the error was more specific, users might work around it is a somewhat silly justification. As I said in my post, the error is like a compiler saying that your code is wrong without any indication of why or where. Sure, someone could work around it. Why frustrate a large number of people who are not trying to do anything but be helpful in order to deal with a very small percentage who are doing something wrong? I don't shoot my neighbor's dog because another dog of the same breed bit someone, and I wouldn't punish a child because of something another child did as prevention.
    – Ken White
    Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 23:29
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    FWIW, they do have the ability to attach custom messages to these blacklist filters now. The older ones that existed before this feature naturally don't have them though. It should be a matter of getting the team to go back and write nice messages for each one.
    – animuson StaffMod
    Commented Feb 22, 2015 at 2:46
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    If whatever FastReport did was naughty enough to get them on the blacklist, perhaps we ought to be rejecting questions with a message explaining what happened and that anything related to FastReport is unwelcome. Letting OP know about the shady business practices of their software supplier would be doing them a favor.
    – Ben Voigt
    Commented Feb 22, 2015 at 19:08

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I can't help you with this particular case but, in general, I'd really like to see better error messages here.

If the rejection message was too specific about what's wrong, users would probably just do the simplest thing to bypass the rejection, i.e. add an asterisk in a suitable place or something. So there is a reason the message is vague. (src)

Optimising a GUI to defend against malicious use is not only arse-backwards design, but explicitly goes against SO's oft-touted policy of "assuming good intent". The correct way to deal with comments that were posted by brutishly circumventing a filter is to flag/delete them after-the-fact.

And then we can make the error messages tell us what is wrong so that we can post our content.

I consider this to be a bug in the same vein as the insanity-laden 15-second comment submission timer that we still have to deal with.

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    Moreover, dissuading people from posting helpful comments is just going to create unnecessary confusion and probably get the issue solved in a longer period of time.
    – Blue Ice
    Commented Feb 22, 2015 at 8:42

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