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I tried to post a question today but was given the "You have reached your question limit" message. Now, I understand this is to weed out accounts that are posting large numbers of poor questions. It told me I had last posted a question 1 day ago and needed to wait 1 day before posting.

At first I was confused as to why I would be under this ban so quickly. I've posted two questions. One was a month and a half ago and received a couple good answers. The second was a day ago and hasn't seen any answers or votes yet, and only a handful of views.

I realized that I had forgotten to accept one of the answers on the first question, so I went back and did that, thinking that might have affected things. But then when I went back and tried to post again, it now says it's been 0 days since posting a question and that I have to wait 2 days.

First of all (subjectively of course) I think this is way too sensitive. The questions received no downvotes, and one has only been up for a day. Second, it looks like, somehow, the ban is getting pushed into the future and is going on longer than it initially said it would despite posting no questions.

Just wondering what's going on here and what to do about it.

The Cause

It looks like the ban probably came from a deleted answer. I'm not sure why a deleted answer would cause a ban on questions instead of answers, but that's probably it. A ban for one deleted comment still seems way too sensitive. I have two other positively voted answers, one of which was a direct correction of the deleted one.

Despite the initial 1 day increasing to 2 days with no explanation, it looks like the time does run down properly. I'm not sure what caused that but it's probably just an odd rounding error.

Feature Request

The feature-request tag refers to a couple possible elements.

First, an answer deletion here caused a question posting ban. I'm not sure if this the intended result, but it would make sense that deleted answers would be more likely to cause an answer ban, and that deleted questions would be more likely to cause a question ban.

Second, the threshold (based on my personal experience of a ban after a single answer) might be a little low. I think that one deletion shouldn't cause you to be banned from posting. Two or maybe three would be more reasonable.

Third, in the case of a deletion, I would like to see a system where you can "fix" a deleted answer (or question) and if a moderator approves your fix, it can be reinstated without the deletion penalty. Obviously limits would have to be in place to avoid abuse.

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    Check for deleted questions in your questions view; there is a link at the bottom showing recent questions that have been deleted. Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 22:30
  • @MartijnPieters That would have explained it, but I don't have any deleted questions. Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 22:31
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    You don't have any that were asked recently at least. :-) Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 22:32
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    @MartijnPieters I've only ever posted 2 questions, so no, I know for a fact that I don't have any. :) Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 22:33
  • We'll have to wait for a moderator then to see what is going on here. Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 22:33
  • I don't really know what I am talking about here, but I seem to remember that these limits take into account questions posted from the same ip, for accounts with less than 150 karma. Is it possible that someone else is sharing your ip address?
    – HugoRune
    Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 22:57
  • Nope. I think the cause was the incorrect link - it was deleted so fast I didn't realize it was wrong, then posted the right one, but that apparently was enough to instaban me. Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 23:01
  • A wrong link should not cause a post to be deleted, unless it is spam, so should not be able to cause any ban. As long as the rest of the post is at least an attempt to answer, albeit wrong, the worst that is supposed to happen are downvotes and harsh comments. A link without any accompanying answer may be another matter, those can get deleted without warning, whether right or wrong.
    – HugoRune
    Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 23:19
  • @HugoRune It was a valid link, but it was the wrong one and I didn't really describe it well (it was my first answer on the site here). Nobody asked for clarification either, it was just deleted with no explanation. Otherwise I would have been able to correct it. And when one deleted answer is all it takes to ban you, that's kind of a problem. Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 23:23
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    Link-only answers are automatically placed in a review queue for low-quality answers, and deleted if found wanting, so that may be what happened here. Nevertheless i would be surprised if that single answer is enough for a ban, especially since you were able to post another answer directly afterwards. There are however certain rate limits in place, that get increased with further positive contributions. You posted 3 answers and a question on the same day, one of them deleted, that may have hit your current limit.
    – HugoRune
    Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 23:34
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    @HugoRune That sounds like it could be why. StackOverflow sure is a hostile place for new users! :P Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 23:39
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    It's a temporary "ban", @Hugo - really, just a rate-limit. The idea is, rather than applying increasingly-strict rate-limits to everyone, we selectively apply them to folks who might benefit the most from taking a bit of extra time to learn about how we do things. As they continue to participate, most users "grow out of" the rate limits.
    – Shog9
    Commented Dec 22, 2014 at 0:56
  • @Shog9 I have an idea. When an answer is deleted, allow the user to revise the answer and then submit it to be reconsidered. If the moderator sees that the revision is good, then the deletion is reversed and the answer is reset to zero votes as if it's a new answer. That would have prevented this whole problem. I'm not sure how much attention the developers pay to this forum or how best to suggest this as a possible improvement. Commented Dec 22, 2014 at 3:40
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    You can post a feature-request here if you want; auto-clearing votes is not going to be a popular suggestion though, as it would be very easy to abuse this. The vast majority of the time, posting a new answer (as you did) will be the preferred solution, as it accomplishes almost exactly the same thing without the need for moderator review. The truth is, you just got unlucky: the system was designed to catch the sort of new user who posts his "question" as an answer until he gets answer-banned, then starts posting questions until he gets question-banned.
    – Shog9
    Commented Dec 22, 2014 at 4:48
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    @RainmanNoodles "One problem was that I didn't really explain the link and just said Here's your answer." That might have been the main problem. Link only answers, even if to the correct article/page/site, are frowned upon. If the article/site goes down, or is taken down, website retires, etc, then the answer here on Stack is also gone. so, link only answers are not really future proof, and so are classed as a poor answer (or, not an answer in your case as incorrect link).
    – James
    Commented Dec 23, 2014 at 2:39

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Answers count too - both for and against.

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  • I didn't know that. I've posted two answers, one with +2 and one with +1 votes. The +1 was a replacement for an answer where I had mistakenly posted the wrong link (it was the same site but a different page) and it was deleted within a couple minutes before I could correct it. Could that be what's causing it? Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 22:44
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    And in that case, if you post the wrong link in an answer, how do you correct it if it's already been deleted? Was posting a new answer with the correct link the wrong approach? Commented Dec 21, 2014 at 22:45
  • Are the FAQ entries for question and answer bans incorrect/out of date in that case? Or are they something slightly different? They show a different message to the one given in this question, and seem to suggest that banning from questions and answers happens independently: stackoverflow.com/help/question-bans stackoverflow.com/help/answer-bans Commented Dec 22, 2014 at 0:23
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    Deleting your answer wasn't a problem, Rainman. Leaving it up long enough to attract 4 downvotes and 3 delete votes hurt a bit. That said, this isn't particularly severe right now - you've already attracted upvotes on your other answers, and your questions have been well-received thus far, so I wouldn't be too concerned - look at it as a learning opportunity.
    – Shog9
    Commented Dec 22, 2014 at 0:26
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    They've never been fully independent, @Jo, particularly for new users. That said, the article you're looking for is stackoverflow.com/help/asking-rate-limited
    – Shog9
    Commented Dec 22, 2014 at 0:29
  • @Shog9 - thanks! Looks like that doesn't mention answers mattering, either - on the one hand I can understand not wanting to fully reveal the algorithm, but it does seem a bit too unclear to be really helpful. The FAQ focuses very heavily on improving your questions, including links to how to do this and what to avoid, but doesn't discuss how to improve your answers. Commented Dec 22, 2014 at 0:44
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    There's really no reason to even think about answers most of the time, @Jo - first, because it's unlikely you can do anything about it, and second because any time you're willing to spend is probably best spent on improving your questions - an upvoted question counts for a lot. The only reason these checks look at answers is because for very new users they tend to provide a useful bit of signal in cases where someone's struggling to understand the local culture and needs a "heads-up" before they end up digging themselves into a hole.
    – Shog9
    Commented Dec 22, 2014 at 0:53
  • @Shog9 It got the votes within about 3 minutes. When I noticed the link was the wrong one I tried to edit it, but by the time I had changed it it was already deleted. Commented Dec 22, 2014 at 3:26
  • I'm not sure if this is a consideration factor for why SO includes answers in this criteria or not, but I often see new users posting questions as answers. This could be a good reason for answer votes to count towards the question posting ban.
    – teynon
    Commented Dec 23, 2014 at 18:22
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    meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/280915/… @Tom ;-)
    – Shog9
    Commented Dec 23, 2014 at 18:28

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