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"How do you remove an element from an array of protocols in Swift?"

That seems like a perfectly legit question and I'm curious why Stack Overflow thinks it sounds subjective:

Stack Overflow making a judgement call

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    The title is not subjective no. What is the rest of the question like? Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 19:35
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    Why are you asking this question? The question you asked has not received any close votes (or up- or downvotes either). Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 19:36
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    Because I'm curious? Is that not a valid reason?
    – devios1
    Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 19:36
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    Why do you think that Stack Overflow thinks it sounds subjective? Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 19:37
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    Now that is a subjective question. ;)
    – devios1
    Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 19:37
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    @MartijnPieters Sorry I misunderstood what you were asking. When I typed the question title, a warning appeared saying that it appears as though it is a subjective question and is likely to be closed.
    – devios1
    Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 19:41
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    Right, that is indeed what I was asking. I haven't seen that kind of feedback before; I guess some heuristics have been applied and they got it wrong here. Machines are not that good at determining subjectivity, really. Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 19:44
  • Don't think a little binary processing machine a human. If it was a human making that call then yes, they made a mistake, but an algorithm that calculates stuff like this obviously can't read the question like a human can. Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 6:28
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    I've never seen that type of warning prompt before and wonder if it's a partial implementation of my feature request: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/260039/…
    – Tanner
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 7:55
  • Uh, it's a computer program that is trying to apply a few simple (and probably simplistic) rules to "encourage" people to write more effective questions. Probably a hopeless cause, and certainly nothing to get your shorts in a knot about.
    – Hot Licks
    Commented Jul 29, 2014 at 0:36
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    Trivia: My recent challenge Caveman Duels (or: Me poke you with sharp stick) also triggered a "question appears subjective" warning. Despite the system repeatedly warning me that my question is likely to be closed every time I edit it, somehow it still remains unclosed.
    – tckmn
    Commented Jul 29, 2014 at 8:02

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I'm pretty sure the "How do you" at the beginning of a title is the culprit. It's probably a major factor in the algorithm that determines subjectivity.

How do you help grandma carry in the groceries?

Changing the "How do you" part to "How to" makes the banner go away. I think the algorithm puts too much emphasis on the you in that phrase, as in it thinks you're trying to ask each individual person "How do you do this?" rather than a general "How is [this task] done?"

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    Ah haha so my coloquial grammar is at fault here. Good to know for future reference.
    – devios1
    Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 19:49
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    Changing it to "How does one..." also makes the warning go away. Seems Stack Overflow encourages formal language.
    – devios1
    Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 19:51
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    That sucks, since "How to" makes a sentence fragment out of a grammatically-correct question.
    – jscs
    Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 20:06
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    @JoshCaswell That's exactly what I was thinking...
    – AstroCB
    Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 20:07
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    Well, there's no need to reword it just to satisfy the heuristic, as it does not stop submitting. Now if there was the problem with problem in the title... Commented Jul 26, 2014 at 22:50
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    I think action like this would be frightful to non-native speakers. I wonder if there are any statistics to indicate whether usage from non-English speaking countries has risen/fallen/remained the same before and after such changes Commented Jul 27, 2014 at 6:12
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    I hate "How to" questions, and will change them to "How do you" if I'm editing the title for other reasons.
    – Gabe
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 6:16
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    @Gabe why is that?
    – nhaarman
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 10:25
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    We don't need a bunch of questions with the title.. "How do you do X". Write a better title. Titles can be fragments. Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 10:43
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    I would say that both "How to" and "How do you" are extraneous. For example, the title above could be changed to "Helping grandma carry in the groceries". Isn't it implied that the OP is asking how or why or what since they are asking a question in the first place?
    – Jenn
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 15:31
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    Extraneous grammatically, perhaps, but I would argue that it makes the question more search-engine friendly. I tend to search in natural language more often than not, and having a title match the most common phrasing of a question makes it easier to find. "How do you" implies that it is a specific question someone has faced (hopefully with an answer) as opposed to simply an informative article on arrays and protocols in Swift.
    – devios1
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 18:11
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    I'm unsure how explaining MVC to grandma is going to get her groceries delivered.
    – Juffy
    Commented Jul 29, 2014 at 0:51
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    They’re both extraneous, but “how to” is actually wrong (when followed by a question mark, as it usually is).
    – Ry- Mod
    Commented Jul 29, 2014 at 1:59
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    The simple way to both make the "subjective" warning go away and preserve the grammar of the question is to replace the you with I.
    – Martha
    Commented Jul 29, 2014 at 2:07
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I think that the label "Question: " encourages a Jeopardy mindset.

We don't need to ask a grammatical question in the title. We just need to make the subject clear.

I think "Remove an element from an array of protocols in Swift" would have been a good title.

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