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I encountered this question in the close vote queue: Error messages after creating a new linux user

It has 4 close votes from (I assume) people thinking the question was about the unix chown command rather than Perl's chown method which was clarified in the comments.

Astute reviewers will (hopefully) notice this and vote to Leave Open but it'll only take one reviewer not really paying attention to close it.

If reviewers are voting to leave the question open, would it make sense to move it further away from the close threshold, rather than teetering on 4 until it times out of the queue? Should the number of Leave Open votes be displayed in the review to indicate that perhaps something has been changed/clarified since the close votes were cast?

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    I don't think it's a bad suggestion but, if there are comments that would likely keep it from being closed by clarifying the problem, then a user with experience in that field should edit the question and make it more obvious.
    – codeMagic
    Commented Jun 19, 2014 at 16:53
  • Each user that views the question outside of the review queue who has enough reputation to vote to close but didn't vote to close implicitly left it open. I don't think that each of those views should cancel out a close vote (maybe they can't judge whether a possible duplicate actually is, or don't know the domain well enough to tell whether something's clear or not). In principle, those kinds of questions in the queue should probably be skipped, but I bet they're often Left Open. Commented Jun 19, 2014 at 21:12
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    Alternatively, if something like this is implemented, then it should probably be implemented outside the queue, too, right? If a user with enough rep to close vote sees a question with some close votes, should they be able to cancel one out (perhaps using up one of their votes for the day)? Commented Jun 19, 2014 at 21:13
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    @JoshuaTaylor, an option outside the queue similar to the current close option would be a nice addition too, perhaps as a separate count rather than cancelling a close vote (it would still be useful to see the reasons people thought it should be closed). It would have to be a definite action though, not triggered by someone simply viewing the question and not deciding to close.
    – RobEarl
    Commented Jun 20, 2014 at 8:27
  • @codeMagic Fair point, I've edited the question now so it is more obviously Perl code. Unfortunately, it was already closed!
    – RobEarl
    Commented Jun 20, 2014 at 8:38
  • @JoshuaTaylor meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/252010/…
    – user4639281
    Commented Jan 6, 2017 at 16:33

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Yes!

What's the purpose of a do nothing option?
As currently implemented the Leave open option is merely a variant of the skip button.
As such it has no value other than increasing your review counter.
I strongly believe that the UI options should have actual value beyond acquiring gamification points.

If the Leave open option is too strong a weapon to have in the hands of mere mortals than we can always increase the rep limit for it and leave the Do nothing option instead.

The button is mislabeled
Quite apart from the above issue the Leave open option is mislabeled. If it does nothing then it should state that it does nothing and be changed to read My view is clouded, my mind is troubled, yet I'm unsure how to proceed, though I may rue (nay lament) my inaction later, I choose to: Do Nothing

or maybe

while (q.status not in [reopened, closed, deleted]) do begin
nothing
end;

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    I thought we had that button, we just shortened its caption to "Skip"
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Jun 20, 2014 at 11:50
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    @CodyGray, but then leave open and skip are the same thing. That does not make sense on a UX level.
    – Johan
    Commented Jun 20, 2014 at 12:28
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    @Johan Enough "leave open" votes take the question out of the review queue.
    – user000001
    Commented Jun 20, 2014 at 12:56
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Should Leave Open votes counteract Close votes?

No. Edits are the best way to counteract close votes. If you see a question that it's being closed, fix the reason why it's being closed instead:

  • Unclear what you are asking: edit the post to clarify the question being asked, incorporate the clarifications from comments.
  • Too broad: focus the question into a single point, narrow down the scope.
  • Duplicated: incorporate or empathize the differences between both questions.
  • Off-topic - Resource request: depending on the question.
  • Off-topic - unreproducible: incorporate steps to reproduce it, fix whatever could be considered a typo but that doesn't effect the final result.
  • Other close reasons are more complex and depend on the situation and context.
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Assuming that open/close votes operate the same across StackExchange sites:

When casting a close vote, other close votes are shown. At a minimum, the number of leave-open votes should also be shown. Showing only close votes can give a false sense of consensus where there may be none. Showing the number of leave-open votes would at least indicate whether there is dissent in closing, and if so, prompt additional consideration.

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  • Or we should remove the close vote counts from the close vote dialog in that queue...
    – user4639281
    Commented Jan 6, 2017 at 16:31

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