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tl;dr:

The terms "down-vote" and "up-vote" don't read as naturally as "downvote" and "upvote" respectively – the hyphenated versions are also used far less frequently.

Can we eliminate the usage of "down-vote" and "up-vote" in the FAQ? and rename the and tags?

(the tags have now been renamed to and — I've removed references to it from the title accordingly.)


The current situation:


Justification:

I've done some research, and the following all point towards using "downvote" and "upvote" - both as the verb:

I downvoted because your answer burnt my house down.

and as the noun:

My downvote will not be retracted until I get my unicorn back.

Download/upload are linguistically similar words - most of us wouldn't dream of putting a hyphen in, e.g.:

I'll down-load that file when I get home to my ISDN connection.

or:

My up-load is a dossier of pluralisation problems.

so I've included them in my searches.


What I'd like to happen:

Ideally:

  • (This has been fixed by tag renames - see above.) Questions with and would be retagged to and which don't exist (yet).

  • (This has been fixed by the creation of tag synonyms - see above.) and become tag synonyms for and .

  • (This has been fixed by edits - see above.) The tag excerpts and wikis for the new tags would be modified to use "downvote" and "upvote" (and variants like "upvoted", "downvotes") exclusively.

  • The Help Center pages are modified to use the unhyphenated words.

  • Everybody stops using "down-vote" and "up-vote" and variants in favour of "downvote" and "upvote". (I accept this is probably wishful thinking.)

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    Help! Rogue hyphens!
    – cs95
    Commented Apr 14, 2019 at 18:07
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    Ok, that's one up-vote (oh crap!) for "OMG this is a lot of work for a hyphen!" :) Commented Apr 14, 2019 at 18:15
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    I... had some free time. :)
    – Wai Ha Lee
    Commented Apr 14, 2019 at 18:16
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    isn't unhyphenated the informal language and the hyphen version only used for the formal acts?
    – ocæon
    Commented Apr 15, 2019 at 0:43
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    @ocæon - I've done some more research and found no evidence to support the formal/informal usage - but have updated my answer with a quote on the declining use of hyphenated words .
    – Wai Ha Lee
    Commented Apr 15, 2019 at 8:19
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    I don't see how hyphenating helps get rid of the positive/negative connotation of up(-)vote and down(-)vote.
    – Ignatius
    Commented Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18
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    Agreed - if you wanted to keep it formal for whatever reason you could say "vote down" or variants - the "Vote Down" privilege page uses "voting down" and "vote down" in addition to "downvote(s)". The hypenated versions don't appear to be recognised by dictionaries, so favouring them in formal use would be weird.
    – Wai Ha Lee
    Commented Apr 15, 2019 at 11:40
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    @ocæon (2/2) Style guides have contributed to this - for instance "The Elements of Style" advises "Do not use a hyphen between words that can better be written as one word: water-fowl, waterfowl. Common sense will aid you in the decision, but a dictionary is more reliable. The steady evolution of the language seems to favor union: two words eventually become one, usually after a period of hyphenation.". In this case I used a dictionary and found no hyphenated versions.
    – Wai Ha Lee
    Commented Apr 15, 2019 at 13:53
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    You will also have to get them to change the spell-checker in the comment editor, since it flags "downvoted" as misspelled, while "down-voted" is ok. Commented Apr 15, 2019 at 16:45
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    That's your browser's spelling checker, not the site, @Mark. The website has no spelling checker.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Apr 15, 2019 at 17:39
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    @CodyGray: See, there's another thing to go on my list of "What I hate about web browsers!" Commented Apr 15, 2019 at 17:41
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    Plus one for using time wisely in one of those I-had-the-time-so-I-did-some-research kind of situations.
    – rgettman
    Commented Apr 15, 2019 at 17:54
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    This is a mighty compelling argument for me to stop writing them as "down vote" and "up vote".
    – BSMP
    Commented Apr 15, 2019 at 18:05
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    wow ~ similar analysis on meta.stackexchange.com i.imgur.com/Pax1Mkc.png and english.stackexchange.com i.imgur.com/gLJPlL8.png .. so i now concur completely! up voted!
    – ocæon
    Commented Apr 15, 2019 at 18:28
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    My gut feeling is that more time went into this question than into some of the "data science" blog posts about the last developer survey...
    – Marco13
    Commented Apr 19, 2019 at 19:03

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The superfluous hyphens have been excised. Feel free to upvote this answer (or downvote, if you must).

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  • Aha! I have upvoted your answer accordingly.
    – Wai Ha Lee
    Commented May 29, 2019 at 19:32
  • No, the super-fluous hy-phens have been ex-cised.
    – S.S. Anne
    Commented Jun 25, 2019 at 17:40
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    There are still inconsistencies; for example the badge requirements still have “up vote” and “down vote”, with a space. Commented Aug 24, 2019 at 7:06

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