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I recently came across a suggested edit which I found questionable. Most of the edit was good, so it was finally approved.

However, one part of the post, similar to this:

Quoted material from external site
...

http://website.example/link/to/blog

was changed to:

Quoted material from external site
...

Source

Thus effectively hiding the link behind the word "Source".

Since the content is quoted from an external site, I think that the link should have been kept as it was, or at the very least, that the name of the website should be clearly visible, as in:

Source: Website.example


I'm looking for opinions or references to official guidelines on this matter. My view is that this part of the edit was completely inappropriate.


Note: I specifically did not tag this with because my question is more about the appropriateness of attribution, than guidance for reviewing suggested edits.

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    I don't think that changing the verbose link to "Source" is hiding disclosure in any way. Usually I don't straight up post the link when quoting something, but do something like "See [Source]" or "In [this documentation]". As far as my experience goes, that is commonplace and widely accepted.
    – Magisch
    Commented Jul 4, 2016 at 8:12
  • @Magisch "Source" can look a little neater than a raw URL, but you do need to provide something that will help future readers find the linked info in case the original link rots. That info doesn't have to be given in the link text itself, but it does need to be obvious. FWIW, I tend to do stuff like "Please see json.dumps in the official Python docs".
    – PM 2Ring
    Commented Jul 6, 2016 at 10:39
  • (cont) Of course, this isn't required for links to Stack Exchange posts; in those cases I just use something like "Please see "this MSO comment".
    – PM 2Ring
    Commented Jul 6, 2016 at 10:40
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    @PM2Ring I do stuff like "According to [the MYSQL manual]" or "According to [the C standard]"
    – Magisch
    Commented Jul 6, 2016 at 10:42
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    I prefer the hidden version. It's almost guaranteed to be shorter and neater, and I don't trust URL text ever. Anyone using StackOverflow should be intelligent enough to know to mouse hover URLs and check the status bar before clicking on any link, regardless of what the poster named the link. I agree with Magisch's recommendations for naming links based on context where possible. Commented Jul 6, 2016 at 13:45
  • just because it says one thing that looks like a URL does not mean that is actually the URL it links to. At least with it says Source it gives you pause to hover and see what it really links to.
    – user177800
    Commented Jul 7, 2016 at 0:02

2 Answers 2

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This help article says:

When you find a useful resource that can help answer a question (from another site or in an answer on Stack Overflow) make sure you do all of the following:

  • Provide a link to the original page or answer
  • Quote only the relevant portion
  • Provide the name of the original author

and provides an example that names the title of the source, rather than its author. Based on this, the guidelines clearly recommend naming the source and/or its author wherever possible.

If you're going to give a bare URL a human-readable label, make sure you give it a meaningful label. Otherwise, leave the bare URL alone. A clickable bare URL that contains meaningful information is better than (what is basically) "Click here."

If the bare URL itself contains misleading information, point this out in a comment for the benefit of other readers. The content is still plagiarized if the link indeed does not point to the original source.

Some users have been known to use vague labels such as "Source" and "Reference" to hide either misleading source links (links that don't actually contain the text being quoted), or worse, spam (though the latter is much rarer IME). Watch out for these.

See also:

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From disclosure perspective those are the same and I would definitely reject suggested edit that

  • changes http://website.example/link/to/blog
  • to [source](http://website.example/link/to/blog)

as it does not make the post even little more readable.

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    It is not entirely true that all external links on Stack Overflow are nofollow. There is an undocumented algorithm that takes into account the age of the post and its score so that "reputable" links get the Google juice. See this question on MSE for details. That may have been tweaked even more since 2011. But the spirit is still accurate, most links in questions and answers will be nofollow.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Jul 4, 2016 at 14:06
  • @CodyGray Thanks - wasn't aware of that detail Commented Jul 4, 2016 at 14:10
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    Besides I think it is less a matter of SEO than having accessible link text
    – Rhumborl
    Commented Jul 4, 2016 at 15:32
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    @Rhumborl: That's silly. We all know websites were designed for search engines, not humans!
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Jul 5, 2016 at 4:45

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