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This post is on the verge of starting an edit war over backtick usage. Josh Caswell says:

Backticks are for inline code elements (also see the generated HTML); please do not use them for highlighting or quote markup.

But the post's author says:

@JoshCaswell They are also often used for quotations inline where it is not possible to add quotes. I have rolled back the edit and do not wish for an edit war- please do not touch my answers again.

Is the post's author's usage of backticks for quotation acceptable, or should they be edited out?

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  • Also on Meta.SE: meta.stackexchange.com/a/149464/159251
    – jscs
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 20:13
  • Just to note, it wouldn't have turned into an edit war: I wasn't going to roll it back again. One edit to correct the problem, one rollback plus comment to clarify why the edit was proper. (If I'd thought it was a big enough deal -- probably not in this case -- I would have raised a flag at that point.)
    – jscs
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 20:13

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Accepted answer to Inline Code Spans should not be used for emphasis, right? on MSO by Dave Newton, reproduced here for your viewing pleasure:

Correct, they should be used for code (and code-like artifacts).

If that's the only change, and it's wrongly applied, reject as "no improvement whatsoever" or "causes harm".

I don't have a problem with filenames, paths, API methods, commands, etc.–those are computery "artifacts" that should be differentiated from expository text. Products, trademarks, etc. aren't.

When emphasis or clarification is needed for non-artifacts we have italics and bold.

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  • This doesn't explicitly address quotes, though.
    – Mark Amery
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:43
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    Well, "they should be used for code and code-like artifacts", there's bold and italic for other uses. Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:45
  • @MarkAmery It says that code markup should only be used for code, and that it shouldn't be used for non-code content. The quote isn't code, thus this applies.
    – Servy
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:45
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    Also, what's wrong with plain-old quote-marks? Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:45
  • There's also > for embedding quotes clearly into posts.
    – TylerH
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:57
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My opinion: no, this is not okay. Code formatting is horrible for quotes; instead, italicise and wrap the quote in actual speech marks.

Posts that use backticks in this way should be edited, and if the author rolls back the edit, they should be flagged.

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  • You're going to flag someone for misusing backticks? That's overkill.
    – mmking
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:39
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    @mmking no - I'd flag them for wrongly rolling back a good edit.
    – Mark Amery
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:40
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    No need. rollback wars are auto flagged. Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:42
  • @NathanOliver When something is (incorrectly) rolled back once there's no mod flag. There's need to be another roll back for a mod to see it.
    – Servy
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:47
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    @Servy I know that that is why I said rollback wars. a single rollback is not a rollback war Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:50
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    @NathanOliver And in this situation one person rolled back an appropriate edit. Thus your choices are either rollback the edit again, starting a rollback war which would cause a mod flag, or just flagging a mod without starting a rollback war. You should do the latter.
    – Servy
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:52
  • @Servy Why? don't we want the correct edit being shown or is it not worth it as the other user will just rollback again. I should also point on that in this situation the post was rolled back several times. Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 19:56
  • @NathanOliver Why, because you don't want to start a rollback war. Don't assume that the other person is going to be the one to give up and wait for a mod, be the bigger person and leave and let the mod do their job.
    – Servy
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 20:00
  • A slight disagreement here, @Servy; I believe that the route I took -- one single reinstatement of my edit plus a clarifying/emphasizing comment -- is better than an immediate flag, because ideally a mod should not need to get involved. Then, if my comment does not convince, and I notice and still care enough, a flag would be the only appropriate choice. I don't need to call the cops the instant my neighbor parks his motorcycle on my side of the property line -- first I should just ask him to please move it.
    – jscs
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 20:29
  • @JoshCaswell Your analogy is appropriate for the first edit, but you're advocating making the edit a second time. If you want to post a comment explaining why their rollback was inappropriate, that's fine, but starting a rollback war just isn't productive. Either talk it out or let a mod handle it without starting a rollback war.
    – Servy
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 20:50
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TL;DR: From now-on I'll use quotation marks.

I admit it:

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Let me explain why I didn't:

I used the code function for quotations I wanted noticed, I did not previously use backticks for entire lines:

I didn't do this, because in my opinion this is stupid and there's already a function for it.

However (in my opinion), using backticks for quotations where the said function cannot be used is acceptable. For example, using them in this sentence like this is fine. I personally do not like the use of actual "quotations" as I see it as sarcasm, but maybe that's just me.

I also did research it, and it seems that there is a mixed opinion on using backticks inline for quotations:

I do so too from time to time, and would have left your answer alone.

However, in the general case, code formatting is indeed abused to highlight arbitrary words sometimes, and that usage should be edited.

The answer from which I pinched that excerpt from is (currently) at +7/-20, so it seems more users are against this behaviour, but a small minority are for it.

I've been here for a while, but I'm still willing to put my hands up and take the blame for this (rightly), we all make mistakes.

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  • It's certainly not the end of the world -- not something I think you need to actually apologize for. I hope I didn't antagonize you, either.
    – jscs
    Commented Oct 14, 2015 at 20:30

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