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On one hand, it asks specifically if the question should be closed as primarily opinion-based. The button hover-text agree by saying "disagree with this close vote" and "agree with this close vote" (a pluralization bug).

On the other hand, it says in the bullet points to Leave Open if the question shouldn't be closed and Close (which brings up the close dialog with all reasons) if the question should be closed for any reason. Edit "so that it does not need to be closed".

I always thought I was reviewing the question, not the existing closevotes, but noticed this after Anna Lear disagreed in chat.

So which am I supposed to review? And can the ambiguity be fixed?

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    This is only a problem for computer programmers. The average person knows what the question "Do you want to take out the trash?" means; programmers always answer "no."
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:38
  • @RobertHarvey I guess it's too bad that this is posted on MSO.
    – bjb568
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:39
  • For reference, the first message in the linked chat conversation is in reply to this.
    – Adam Lear StaffMod
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:39
  • For reference, the question in question appears to be this one. You can tell me if I'm wrong. You reviewed it the same way everyone else did, so I don't know why you're confused.
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:42
  • @RobertHarvey It looked border-line too broad, so I asked chat if I reviewed it right. Then too broad isn't a valid option? o.O
    – bjb568
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:44
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    As you've already pointed out, the instructions say "Select recommend closure if the post should be closed for any reason. It's not too broad. Not even close. Too Broad is for questions that require the better part of a book chapter to answer (i.e. extended tutorial questions), or can have many possible answers (i.e. Big List questions).
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:45
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    @RobertHarvey No, i.sstatic.net/qgdp5.png It asked about primarily opinion based.
    – bjb568
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:47
  • That is there because someone voted to close the question as "primarily opinion-based." The review is asking if you agree with him. In the meantime, you can still evaluate a post as being off-topic for other reasons.
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:48
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    @bjb568 You might want to include more information next time you ask for a sanity check in chat. "Is my review correct?" in no way conveys that you thought the question might be too broad. But I guess this at least explains the confusion I had.
    – Adam Lear StaffMod
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:48
  • @RobertHarvey Ok, that's what I thot. So I'm reviewing the post, good.
    – bjb568
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:49
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    Yes, you're reviewing the post, not answering the question that the review poses. I suppose that could be made clearer.
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:50
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    @AnnaLear I was thinking my review was "Leave Open" -> "No Action Needed" -> "Closure is inappropriate". But next time I'll be more specific.
    – bjb568
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 21:50

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There is no ambiguity (outside of your question).

When you visit /review/close, you're given a post and asked a question: "Should this question be closed as: reason?"

Should this question be closed as: primarily opinion-based

This is not a simple yes/no question. There are multiple potential answers, detailed in the instructions:

  • No, it should be left open.
  • Yes it should be closed for the reason stated.
  • Yes it should be closed, but for a different reason.
  • No, it should be edited instead.
  • I don't know and want to review a different question.

I don't think that's so hard. But...

Chat sucks for communication sometimes

...this got confusing in chat because you asked an entirely different question (which you neglected to include in the bookmarked transcript you linked to:

Is my review correct?

At this point, confusion arose because Anna couldn't see your review - she just saw the review task that you'd reviewed. In other words, you asked her to validate your answer to a question but instead of showing her your answer you showed her the question - so, no doubt trying to be helpful, she gave you her answer to the that question.

Confused by her response, the conversation went downhill from there... All of this could've been avoided, if you'd just compared your review to her review - at which point the answer to your question would've been obvious:

the reviews were the same

"Yes."

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  • "No it should be left open" is the one I chose. Which means I didn't choose "Yes it should be closed for the reason stated", "Yes it should be closed, but for a different reason", "No it should be edited", or "I don't know and want to review a different question". Which means I was asking if the other ones were actually incorrect choices. I don't think that's so hard… She then described CV review as if it were reviewing flags, accept or decline, which was confusing since there wasn't an accept or decline option…
    – bjb568
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 22:03
  • BTW, what is with the crappy subpixel rendering in your screenshots? :P
    – bjb568
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 22:05
  • None of that information was in your question though, @bjb. You might've avoided the confusion by just asking, "I responded 'leave open' here, is that correct? Or should I have closed it as 'too broad'?" (Since that appears to have been your specific concern) And Chrome on Windows does that; not as bad as fuzzy Mac screenshots, but not great.
    – Shog9
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 22:06
  • @bjb568 You seem to be interpreting what was essentially a side comment on my part ("I don't see how that's opinion-based") as a different approach to review. I'll try to be more clear next time.
    – Adam Lear StaffMod
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 22:07
  • NOOOO Mac subpixel rendering is the beeest! Yeah, I could have communicated better I guess. (Is that a button to ban a mod? Shiny)
    – bjb568
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 22:10
  • @AnnaLear That, followed by The question was up for review as "primarily opinion-based".
    – bjb568
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 22:11
  • Eh, by the time we hit the screenshot part of that conversation we were already working under two different sets of assumptions.
    – Adam Lear StaffMod
    Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 22:12
  • It also says: "Close if this question should be closed for any reason;" Commented Jun 18, 2014 at 23:03
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    Ahem, black circle? -1.
    – nicael
    Commented Jun 19, 2014 at 11:46

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