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I am currently seeing the "there are no review queues for you" message. I know this shows when you fumble audits, but I haven't even been reviewing recently.

Am I banned? I never received any message regarding this. If I made a mistake, how can I check what it was?

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Yeah, you're review-banned. You should see a message to that effect somewhere.

I can't believe they still haven't fixed the UI to make review bans more obvious. If you're banned and you don't know it, then that's a serious problem. A very important purpose of bans is to allow reviewers to learn from their mistakes.

The ban relates to your decision on this review. See here for context. In summary, when I handle flags on obvious not-an-answer or very-low-quality posts, I check to see if any reviewers failed to reach that same conclusion. If they do, I give out bans as door prizes, following the same gradually incrementing time periods as the automatic (audit-based) bans.

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  • I really thought at the first look that it was a new answer (similar to another answer but without the **). One should have edited the question though to format code as code and at that point it should have been clear.
    – BDL
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 6:59
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    @BDL Well, it does look like a new answer at first glance. The only way to tell it's not is to click through to the question and see that the quote comes from an existing answer. By handing out review bans for people who got this wrong, Cody effectively makes that level of diligence the minimum acceptable standard for anyone reviewing answers with quotes in them. That will displease some people, to be sure - a significant subset of users think it's unreasonable to be expected to look at anything beyond what the review system puts in front of their nose when reviewing. I support it, though.
    – Mark Amery
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 11:11
  • @MarkAmery: My point is that even when seeing both answers, they seem to not have the same code included. One has ** while the other hasn't. But this is because the copy doesn't put the code in a code block and thus ** disappears and makes the text bold.
    – BDL
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 11:13
  • @BDL An understandable mistake - but still one that reviewers in the Late Answers queue ideally wouldn't be making. Newbies unfamiliar with markdown inadvertently garbling formatting is really common - e.g. anyone who frequents the Python tag has probably seen the __init__ method rendered init a painful number of times - and one of the things that I'd hope the First Posts and Late Answers reviewers would spot and fix for us. (There's also a full phrase of English copied that ought to be a clue about what's going on, even for someone caught out by the code formatting mismatch.)
    – Mark Amery
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 11:18
  • @MarkAmery: I completely agree with the ban. It was really just meant as a remark for the reviewer onto why the two answers are the same.
    – BDL
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 11:23
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    @xdtTransform i.sstatic.net/kPEgf.png
    – Mark Amery
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 11:32
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    That's a tough review to ban someone for. You can't tell that it's a copy cat answer without opening the original post... which isn't displayed in the review.
    – Lundin
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 12:59
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    @gnat This here is someone who said no action needed on a seemingly ok answer. Yes, veteran reviewers know that the review audits have been hopelessly broken for ages and therefore always view the original post, or otherwise you'll get shot down for doing voluntary work free of charge.
    – Lundin
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 13:26
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    @giusti You were apparently expected to open the original post in a separate window, read all 9 answers in detail, and in case the one you reviewed appeared to contain code stolen from any existing answer, go back to the review, then flag for moderator attention with a custom reason about plagiarism. If this procedure seems unreasonable to you, then one sensible solution is to boycott reviewing in the future.
    – Lundin
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 13:35
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    @Lundin it's a known and popular trick among spammers that they copy text from some positive score answer in the same question exactly with purpose to make it look "a seemingly ok answer". Any reviewer, no matter veteran or not should take this into account if they are going to pick Looks OK (nothing like that isn't of course needed for recommending deletion). And if it looks like too much work, well, There is no shame in using “Skip”
    – gnat
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 13:49
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    @gnat We can't reject reviews because "the poster might add a spam link in the future"...
    – Lundin
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 14:39
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    @giusti The fact the answer is basically "This is the only way that works fine with me:" followed by an unattributed quote should be sufficient warning that something is off and either trigger you to dig deeper or maybe skip. The answer itself is a non-answer, and the quote might be an answer, but you should write your answers yourself, and unattributed quotes are either a license violation or just plagiary. Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 17:14
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    What Mark said. And also Mark. I'll admit that I do expect reviewers to be diligent. I could be flippant about this and just say, "I've upped my standards, now up yours," but as I said in my answer, I really only hand out these bans in what I think are obvious cases. I think this one was obvious. It took me about 2 seconds of just looking at the answer to figure it was probably a "thanks" answer, and then another 10 sec to confirm. That isn't too much to ask of a reviewer, really. If you haven't developed that intuition yet, then it'll take you longer, or you can contribute in other ways.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Oct 18, 2019 at 4:16
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    I think it's important to state, you probably cannot review every question with an expert eye. If it's a question or answer outside of my area of expertise, and it's not obvious to me that there are problems with the content, I just skip it, to allow people who know more than me to review it. I always err on the side of caution, and don't want to condemn, or give something a pass, that I'm unsure about. There's no harm in skipping something, and it can often be the right thing to do. Commented Oct 18, 2019 at 12:05
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    I can't believe it, either, @WhatsThePoint. It's almost as if the company has other priorities.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Feb 1, 2020 at 2:36

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