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How is this answer spam (or rude, or abusive)?

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    Afaik if there are open rude/abusive/spam flags on an answer while it gets deleted, it's automatically displayed as rude/abusive/spam and those flags get automatically marked as helpful, even if they're very much incorrect.
    – Erik A
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 12:56
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    You definitely shouldn't have answered the question at all. But judging just from that one answer, I see nothing that looks like spam or rude. I would call it borderline abusive if you answer a question that you're going to delete vote or close vote.
    – BDL
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 12:56
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    @Cerbrus Nope, it was deleted as part of the question getting deleted.
    – Erik A
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 12:58
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    Oh, good point. Then that's probably what happened.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 12:58
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    @BDL That's debatable whether the answer is warranted or not. In my opinion, that question needed a little more context than the marked dupes, as it has an additional question added to the primary problem. which I tried addressing separately. The delete vote I casted after seeing community rejection (-7) and already two delvotes on teh question. Nothing more, nothing less. Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:02
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    The post also racked-up 3 quick downvotes. This is surely "a 100k user should know better" flagging at work. Well, you do answer such horrible questions at your peril, crap happens when you do. Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:05
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    @HansPassant is there a guideline for "a 100k user should know better" flagging thingy? I thought judgements were for posts, not people. Also, a poor question does not mean a poor answer, always. I'm not trying to argue that I did the correct thing or alike, the question is about the spam flag. Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:09
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    A rude or abusive flag was definitely wrong. But you have to expect downvotes if you are going to answer the 10th duplicate of a duplicate.
    – BDL
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:10
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    @BDL I never asked anything about the votes - they are there for general quality or usability purpose. A spam (or rude or abusive) flag, on the other hand, is something entirely different, and more serious. Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:14
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    @HansPassant It's actually -7 (the +5 takes it to -2), I can understand that downvoting part and not disturbed, voting is a choice. Regarding the answering - Yes, I should have tried enhancing the question (which I would have down the line - that's the general trend I follow) but none of this clarifies the spam flag. Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:20
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    @HansPassant And yes, if there is a phenomena..I'd like to see a guideline. Once again, I accepted the voting (poor action from my part), but I did nothing to warrant a spam or rude or abusive flag. That's what I'm asking about. Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:29
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    @SouravGhosh: If I were to spam flag BoltClock's answer, and this question got deleted before that spam flag is invalidated, then BoltClock's answer would've been marked as "spam", like yours was. Some user just deemed it necessary to flag your answer. We can't answer "Why", we can only tell you that that's what happened.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:31
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    @Cerbrus Correct, I'm not asking for that user's action. This auto-accept part of flag was not known to me. that answers the question. Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:32
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    That's a great example of a stupid question. It would have taken him less time to compile and run that to see what actually happens than it took him to compose the question.
    – user1228
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 16:38
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    @Will In the case of C, no. If it compiles, that doesn't mean it's free of UB's, so "what actually happens" depends on the compiler, the OS etc. The OP was right to worry.
    – Mr Lister
    Commented Feb 18, 2019 at 7:57

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Your answer was flagged as rude or abusive by someone.

Someone who, ironically, left a rude or abusive comment on your answer. (This phenomenon of harmless content being deemed rude by people who are actually rude is a common Internet trope.)

The only thing that stands out about your answer is that it compares one snippet to another using the word "bad", and the use of the same word was used to criticize your answer. But that's not nearly worth a rude or abusive flag.

I've deleted that comment and invalidated that flag.

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    I believe I know that "someone" and also the source of that "rudeness". Believe me or not, it's because of a cricket match result. I understand this. :) Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:11
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    Why exactly does self-deletion validate spam flags? That seems like something that can get abused. Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:12
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    @Zoe: Good question...
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:13
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    Funny, I didn't know that it was even possible to have a not deleted answer on a deleted question :)
    – BDL
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:13
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    A non-deleted answer on a deleted question? HAX! This will surely disrupt the space-time continuum...
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:14
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    I deleted the answer myself. Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:22
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    @Cerbrus: Maybe there should be badges for that (e.g. Anomaly, Disaster, and Chaos).
    – honk
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:40
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    This represents a bug, however. According to this spam and abuse flags are not supposed to be validated when the author deletes a post. The fact that it did means that it's a bug.
    – gparyani
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:46
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    @gparyani: The flag on an answer was validated when the answer-author deleted the question. Not exactly the same case, but might be worth to report as a new bug.
    – BDL
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 13:49
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    @Zoe How would that enable abuse? A user would have to know that a rude/abusive/spam flag was raised on their post, and want to have that marked against them, and self-delete in order to 'abuse' the system that way... in which case is that kind of self-flagellation really abuse? That seems like a Rube Goldberg method for abusing the system, at least...
    – TylerH
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 15:08
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    @TylerH The asker spam flag an answer, then delete the question?
    – user202729
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 15:09
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    @user202729 Oh, the asker? I was assuming when Zoe mentioned "self-deletion" she meant the answerer self-deleted the answer. An asker can't self-delete a question when there are multiple answers, so what you describe can't be the situation Zoe describes, surely. The question was not self-deleted. The answers were.
    – TylerH
    Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 15:12
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    @TylerH that was while I misunderstood how it works - the original thought was that because some users delete heavily downvoted answers, a spam flag could be thrown in along with a couple downvotes, and if it's deleted before the flag is validated, that would result in the 100 rep penalty. At least that's already covered, which just leaves the bug as gparyani mentioned.Alternatively there's the approach user202729 mentioned:The asker flags and deletes the question, but the main concern for me was the 100 rep penalty part Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 15:18
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    which probably would give motivation for someone to abuse it. I mean, votes are already abused (serial up/downvoting, targeted voting, voting circles, even answer pairs who ask questions and someone else answers it, and it's all planned before it's posted), so it appeared to be likely the 100 rep penalty could be used as "motivation" to do it. But since that requires community deletion, that's not as much of a problem, and only leaves the bug part of it Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 15:20
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I'm the one who closed the question, and was slightly shocked that a high reputation user answered a blatant/unclear duplicate.

After the closure the question was heavily downvoted and the answer too.

When I came back to see the state of the question, I saw that the answer was locked as "rude or abusive", so instead of opening a meta post about that, I flagged the post for moderation attention to revert that (as the consequences on the user -you- which has a flagged post are bad, and this is not fair). Of course my flag was helpful and the spam flag was reverted.

Someone(s) must have thought that you were "abusing" the system by answering obvious duplicates. Which is stricto senso not the case.

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    Please don't make a generality of this, or of high rep users. Even this user doesn't spend his time answering duplicates. If it happens, flag as duplicate or visit a chatroom to ask for help. Commented Feb 15, 2019 at 20:08

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