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Related: What if they COULD google their question in 5 seconds?

The new Code of Conduct banned comments like "you could Google this in 5 seconds!" as excessively condescending. LMGTFY has been banned for a while for being condescending and rude.

I got to thinking the other day, though: Given that it (presumably) takes more than 5 seconds to post a question here, why do people still post stuff that they could Google in five seconds?

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    Because they are lazy or lacking google fu? Provide them with appropriate duplicate answers you found at google instead. Commented Nov 6, 2018 at 22:28
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    @πάνταῥεῖ If they were lazy and they could Google their question in 5 seconds, wouldn't they do that instead of posting here? Commented Nov 6, 2018 at 22:29
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    @EJoshuaS no, because that would make them do the work of Googling (and reading the linked articles!). They can ask here without using their brain. Commented Nov 6, 2018 at 22:31
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    They probably tired to use the intrinsic search feature of the site, which doesn't leave you with the same results. That's a well known problem. Commented Nov 6, 2018 at 22:31
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    It's a different kind of laziness. It's the same kind of laziness that keeps me from changing my home directory to somewhere useful instead of cd-ing into the directory I always use. Sure, it would take me 5 seconds to change my .profile , and it takes me 3 seconds to type the line of where I'm going every time, but for some reason, I just always type it out instead because I'm too lazy to change my current train of thought to make my life easier. It's been a year like this since I set up this machine and I've never used the default home directory, always that of my copy of my old drive.
    – Davy M
    Commented Nov 6, 2018 at 22:33
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    "'Effective Searching' is a learned skill.", as ashleedawg's answer on the linked questions explains.
    – ryanyuyu
    Commented Nov 6, 2018 at 22:33
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    But the answer here is custom-made for them; they copy-paste it and they're done. If the answer isn't directly copy-paste-able, they raise hell on a social media platform and the next thing you know, we can't mark questions on duplicates any more... Sorry, went off on a tangent there :). Commented Nov 6, 2018 at 22:35
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    @EJoshuaS Laziness is a big attractor. Letting other people do the harder work for you seems to be the easier way to go nowadays. We try to fight that misconception as good as we can though. Commented Nov 6, 2018 at 22:35
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    Because it is a personalised answer. They spare the effort of understanding and filtering the google hits which look fruitful, but they aren't.
    – peterh
    Commented Nov 7, 2018 at 0:37
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    I expect most just don't realize that they're expected to do their own research, or honestly don't realize how easy it is or how much information is out their. They just assume that if they searched they wouldn't find their answer, or don't even consider that they could search first. Most of the other explanations would cover the less egregious cases; this applies more to the could literally find the answer with 5 seconds of googling.
    – Servy
    Commented Nov 7, 2018 at 18:42
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    There seems to me to be a high percentage of poor questions that just searching for the question title provides a reasonable result: right now Googling select rows where parameter match columns in joint tables takes me to SQL: Select from one table matching criteria in another?; Google manages to parse the vague technical-term free title into a reasonable query. (And yes, I've flagged it as a dup!)
    – Ken Y-N
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 3:00
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    Somewhat related: I wonder if we could discourage the use of "google" as verb. There are many other search engines, and we're encouraging beginners into a monopoly mindset if we (accidentally) support the idea that there are no other search engine services available.
    – halfer
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 8:11
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    Don't forget that your answer will be indexed, so that every thousands of user actually googling this will just find "guy just google it" Frustrating answer isn't it?
    – pdem
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 15:38
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    Because the ones who DO google it in five seconds and find their answer DON'T post here.
    – toastifer
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 15:40
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    A lot of people believe their experience in life to be unique in comparison to everyone else's. Their decisions are the correct ones, their actions are the best ones. As such, their problems are unique to them as well. How could anyone have asked this question in the past, if they (and thus, their problems) were infallible up to the point where they decided to ask their question.
    – keag
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 15:52

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Because they genuinely cannot "google that in 5 seconds". Allow me to explain.

When people are searching for a solution to a problem, they sometimes enter a kind of "search mode". They read everything with a filter over their eyes. That filter is designed to search for solutions to the problem they're currently having. Any information which is not obviously a direct, complete, and comprehensible solution to the problem as they understand it is discarded by this filter.

Basically, when people enter "search mode", they're not interested in learning anything; they want the solution to their problem.

See, most "google that in 5 seconds" problems can't actually be googled that quickly. Not unless you know exactly what you're looking for. Most of the time, Google Search will take you to a page that has the answer, but you have to read through a bunch of stuff that is not your answer.

If you're thinking in terms of learning how something works, this is great. Googling a topic or question can lead you to a lot of foundational information. All of that "stuff that is not your answer" is useful and will help avoid problems in the future. It will give you a better foundation of understanding the system, and allow you to become a better programmer.

But if you're in "search mode"... you do not care. You don't want to understand the system; you want a solution, period. So all of that "foundational information" is just noise to you, and your "filter" will discard it. If Google Search links you to a page that appears to be pointless noise about stuff that isn't your problem, you won't find it very useful.

Even worse, note my previous phrasing: "the problem as they understand it". Many people don't really understand the problem they're having. They often think the problem is one thing, when it is something only tangentially related to it. Their vision of the solution is based on their understanding of the problem. And since their "filter" culls out things that don't look like the solution, but their idea of what the solution will be is wrong... they will cull out the actual solution.

Google is a useful tool, but getting the most out of it requires the right mindset. You have to go into it with a willingness to learn, not just to apply a pattern filter to find your answer. And a lot of people don't really think that way. Even some long-time programmers, when learning a new system, will often fall victim to "filter"-based reading. I know I have.

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    I wish I could add more to this answer. I weep at the truth it tells (notably the "you want a solution, period" - since I've been in those shoes).
    – Makoto
    Commented Nov 6, 2018 at 23:55
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    I tend to disagree. For quite some newbie questions, you copy/paste the title of their question, you put that into Google, and you get the solution right there. Very often, the first link by google gives a solution, code, explanation. I came to the conclusion: people very much prefer that somebody explicitly explains to them what their problem is.
    – GhostCat
    Commented Nov 7, 2018 at 12:37
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    @GhostCat: That's an unfair assertion; for the questions which turn out to be easier than you realize at the time, being able to express what they are in terms of a search query is a fundamentally impossible task. Only after you understand what the problem actually was and how to look for a solution could you consider a problem "newbie".
    – Makoto
    Commented Nov 7, 2018 at 19:53
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    I don't understand that comment. I occasionally do that: I copy the exact question title that the newbie used on stack overflow into google, and I get perfect newbie consumable links back. Not always, but more often than not.
    – GhostCat
    Commented Nov 7, 2018 at 20:07
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    @Makoto Yes, questions do exist where the duplicates are hard to find. They're less common than duplicates that are very easy to find, but they certainly happen. GhostCat wasn't contenting that hard to research problems exist, just that there are also a lot of very easy to find duplicates out there, duplicates even the author of those questions are more than capable of finding. This meta post is about those questions.
    – Servy
    Commented Nov 7, 2018 at 20:43
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    I would add to that language differences and some things that seem extremely simple get extremely difficult.
    – Dzyann
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 2:50
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    Adding to this to some people might know what they want to achieve or what to do but don't know the exact type of 'thing' to search for example you know the term of pop-up boxes. Meanwhile what you're supposed to search is a dialog box, but you don't know the dialog box. More often than not they would ask about pop-up boxes and not the dialog boxes.
    – Mukyuu
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 3:28
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    @GhostCat Could it be that your Google is tuned to programming whereas the newbie's Google is tuned to, say, Kim Kardashian, American football, and the Midterm Elections 2018? Does it still work if you use duckduckgo? (I suspect it does, but I was trying to construct an excuse for the newbies.) Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 13:09
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    @AndrewMorton Fair point. Next time I make such an experiment, I will try to use other search engines, too ;-)
    – GhostCat
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 13:11
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    Google fu is a skill many devs lack and takes a lot of learning to get right too. I wish more people would realise that.
    – DavidG
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 15:10
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    @Lunc: I rather doubt that. There are many cases where "TFM" doesn't exist or is flat-out wrong. SO could probably subsist on just the cases where Windows documentation is inaccurate/incomplete. Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 16:16
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    This answer is often contradicted by literally searching the question title. It's common enough that you must have seen it. Sure, sometimes that means they need to actually sit down and spend some minutes reading the result and working out their understanding, but the fact they don't is a failure on their part, not ours. And since we are not a personal tutorial service, we expect users to have done so. Thanks for undermining SO's core values and blaming users for being understandably frustrated.
    – jpmc26
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 16:18
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    "the fact they don't is a failure on their part, not ours" I never claimed it was a failure on our part. The question asked about the reason behind a phenomenon, and I attempted to offer an explanation for it. And my point is that "sit down and spend some minutes reading the result and working out their understanding" is not the way the user is thinking. So to them, doing the search will not lead to the answer; it will lead to a page that has a bunch of noise in it where the answer is/may be buried. Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 16:23
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    Completely agree with GhostCat, I try that often too, and if I can find answers like that (and most of the time I can), I will put that in a comment too. Not an LMGTFY link, but at least smth like "I pasted your exact question title in Google, and the first page gave me [this] and [this] and [this]". If people are put off by that, it's too bad. I hope they take it as a hint that "wow, maybe I should have thought of that", in addition to being helped by getting direct links to duplicates of their question.
    – GolezTrol
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 16:26
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    My initial reaction to this answer was similar to yours, @jpmc26, because I find what Nicol describes very disappointing. But I don't think that the answer is actually defending or even apologizing for it; on re-reading I believe it's meant to be a neutral observation. (And an unfortunately insightful one.)
    – jscs
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 16:57
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Some of this is guessing, some of this is what I've read askers say in comments.

  • They don't know the correct terms to get at what they want.
  • They don't know how to form good search queries to get what they want.
  • They did find something but didn't understand it.
  • They did find something, made a mistake in implementing the answer, and assumed the answer they found was incorrect.
  • They did find something, made a mistake in implementing the answer, assumed they made a mistake but failed to mention this in their question.
  • They want the opinion of someone they're sure is an expert (or experts).
  • They aren't sure what they're asking for is what they need.
  • They want to be able to ask follow-up questions.
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    • Their variables have different names.
    – Jongware
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    • They have got sick of their problem/homework and want someone to finish it (just this once).
    – halfer
    Commented Nov 7, 2018 at 19:39
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    @halfer before I get too mad at those people I try to remember the time I spent three hours trying to work with a non-zero indexed array (from a VBA library) in C# before basically begging on IRC for somebody to solve my problem. Not my finest hour, but I think we all have those days...
    – mbrig
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 5:10
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    @mbrig: begging is to be strongly discouraged, even though we can understand what gives rise to it. It is, by definition, a form of emotional manipulation, and is beyond the pale when used against volunteers one does not know. On IRC, where one has pre-existing relationships (or with colleagues where one knows there is a greater available well of kindness) it is perhaps more forgivable. My general concern is helper burn-out, which comes from people being manipulated to assist more than they have energy for.
    – halfer
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 8:05
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    I have tried to explore this theme on this question here.
    – halfer
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 8:06
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    One thing that should also be pointed out is that two people can google with the same search and get completely different results since google does customize the search results for everyone
    – Joe W
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 13:32
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    @halfer, describing begging as "a form of emotional manipulation" is pretty cynical. There's a big difference between expressing false emotion to manipulate people and expressing true emotion resulting from genuine suffering and need. Presumably some begging falls into the former category, but all of it?
    – senderle
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 15:09
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    @halfer indeed, I didn't mean to imply that begging should be rewarded (especially here on SO), just that I no longer get angry at such people. DV/Flag/etc as needed and move on is my plan now.
    – mbrig
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 16:11
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    @senderle: I hear you. The view I take is that begging can be added for two reasons: (1) as an emotional release from frustration, which is understandable, and (2) to indicate that the writer would like a fast response or priority treatment over other questions. My objections to begging stem entirely from the second category. It is not that I wish to be hard on people; indeed, the purpose of my policy is to protect valuable helpers, so they are encouraged to help over the long term.
    – halfer
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 18:34
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    @mbrig: I think Meta is of the view that begging is not sufficiently important as to require a mod flag. When I see it, I edit out the chatty material and paste a boilerplate comment, and downvote if the begging was particularly egregious (e.g. it amounts to title vandalism). This is perhaps more educational than before, where I would just edit and downvote.
    – halfer
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 18:37
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    @senderle: I see your point regarding emotional manipulation. I don't mean to suggest it is fraudulent; what I am getting at here is that writers are telling readers that their suffering and woe will end if only a kind soul will help them. In other words, readers become responsible for that suffering if they do not help. I think that can reasonably be called manipulative, even if it is not necessarily an entirely conscious strategy.
    – halfer
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 18:40
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    @halfer: That's a good analysis of why begging is such a bad thing: as you say readers become responsible for that suffering if they do not help. I've felt that way with followup comments on my answers sometimes. Begging right in the question itself has nearly no emotional impact on me, though. SO is completely the wrong place for "help me now" requests, and they're usually the lowest future value questions that are just clutter to future searchers. (Trivial variation on something common, or full of too many errors and misconceptions for one answer. SO isn't a tutoring service.) Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 21:33
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    +1 I've programmed forever but sometimes I just can't figure out the magic phrase to get google to spit out the correct results to some software dilemma. I've asked questions where I absolutely knew there was an answer out there but 10 minutes of searching had lead to nothing at all of use! I'll post on SO, continue to search, then get an answer on SO while still not having found an answer myself, just because I was missing some magic word I hadn't considered.
    – Bill K
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 22:29
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    @PeterCordes: your implication that readers are susceptible to manipulation to greatly varying degrees is worth thinking about. I wonder if I am irritated by it to a high degree because I know that, to some extent, I am affected by it. It feels coercive. (In my link above, I explored the idea that some of this phenomenon is affected by the cultural background of both writers and readers. In my Stack Overflow experience, some countries normalise pleading behaviours in which a sense of helplessness and deferentialism is encouraged, which I find embarrassing).
    – halfer
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 8:47
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    Also: they want the answer quickly, and asking someone who knows is always perceived as being faster than googling it. Although as pointed out by others here, googling isn't any slower than posting a stack overflow question (and then patiently waiting for an answer; I once waited 8 months!) It's just that perception that someone who knows can just quickly tell you, whether or not it's a true assumption. The attitude of, if I can find someone who knows, I don't need to know. Personally, I not only want to learn for myself, but also document it so that 1) I don't forget, and 2) others benefit.
    – Tim
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 17:14
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Quite often, I suspect, users do Google their question in five seconds, and they get something that looks like this (click for full size):

A man page in which all of the text is meaningless and confusing.

Some open source documentation is really great, like PostgreSQL's docs, or Python's. But a lot of products, both open source and closed source, have extremely dense and impenetrable documentation. Sometimes, it's because the feature is inherently hard to understand or profoundly different from a typical developer's mental model. And sometimes it's just because nobody is putting effort into documenting things in a clear and understandable fashion. This should not be surprising, because writing good documentation is difficult, time consuming, and requires a lot of practice to do well.

On the other hand, many new developers have never learned how to read documentation. I know reading documentation was never covered in my (absurdly expensive) computer science degree. Documentation in general, and man pages in particular, are often written in a highly idiosyncratic style. Reference documentation prefers to be comprehensive and unambiguous, but usually does a very poor job of answering why and how questions ("Why would I pass this flag? How does the app choose which sprocket to frobnicate?"). It also tends to be terse and chronically short on examples, and what examples do exist tend to be small and artificial.

Some products offer tutorials, which are geared towards answering these questions, but:

  • Many products do not have tutorials, or they have tutorials which are not very good.
  • Third-party tutorials, while widely available, tend to be of variable and uneven quality.
  • It takes a measure of self-awareness to admit you need a tutorial.
  • It takes a substantially larger measure of self-awareness to admit you need a tutorial while you are actively trying to solve a specific technical problem.
  • The developers of the tutorial will almost never foresee every possible use case of the product, so their "why" and "how" answers may be inapplicable or outdated.
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    ”admit you need a tutorial while you are actively trying to solve a specific technical problem” — This. 💯 It’s often very hard for many to slow down and take a step back to really understand their problem on a Friday afternoon at 4pm when you “just need to solve this one thing”…
    – deceze Mod
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 1:42
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    Finally, a post that actually uses the correct alt text for an image, those posts are really becoming rare
    – Ferrybig
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 9:37
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    And how is anyone going to learn how to read this if they never have to? We have a serious problem with only a relative minority of our industry actually knowing anything about it. Everybody else is just getting individual solutions by rote. What happens when all those capable of reading have gone? This isn't a hateful rant, it's a genuine, practical problem. Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 11:08
  • Surely if the only way you could find an answer to your question is by diving into a tutorial, then by definition it can't be "Googled in 5 seconds"? Or are we defining "Google in 5 seconds" to mean "Enter a Google query in 5 seconds that will lead you to a website that will, in principle, help you solve your problem if you subsequently spend a couple of hours reading multiple pages of content?" Because if we mean the latter, then I don't see why that should be a reason not to ask a question, in order to create an internet where you can actually find the answer in 5 seconds, which is better.
    – Mark Amery
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 11:11
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    "But a lot of products... have extremely dense and impenetrable documentation" - Maybe stackoverflow should add a dedicated area where they collect good documentation, that is maintained and voted upon by the community. Wait. What?
    – Marco13
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 11:17
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    @MarkAmery: we are teaching the next generation to expect spoonfed answers, tailored to fit each individual case. "Reading the documentation" is quickly becoming a nerd activity. (Again.)
    – Jongware
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 19:09
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    @LightnessRacesinOrbit: I don't necessarily have answers, but I'm skeptical that our profession is going to sink into a swamp of ignorance that easily. If it begins having negative economic effects, eventually hiring managers will work out that they need to adjust their hiring interviews. Once reading documentation becomes mandatory for getting a job, people will learn to do it real fast. OTOH, if this does not happen, then probably the problem isn't that catastrophic to begin with.
    – Kevin
    Commented Nov 12, 2018 at 2:49
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    @Kevin Eventually may be too late! I can say with confidence that at least some niche markets are already showing signs of time-related brain drain that's causing genuine problems and I really believe it's only a matter of time before it becomes evident elsewhere. Heck, look through SO questions, it's already started! Commented Nov 12, 2018 at 10:30
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There are pretty good answers in this thread already, but I'd like to make a point others didn't explicitly mentioned.

Google may provide you with different results based on the language of your system (regardless if many or all keywords are in english) and allegedly based on your user profile.

Add this to knowing and picking up the right keywords in a field or topic. Doing so flows naturally to someone who closely knows the answer but is hard for someone who is lost.

And the result is: Maybe you can find the answer in 5 seconds in your computer. The asker may not get the answer you get even with the same query, and let alone formulate the precise query you can.

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  • Google suggests alternate spellings, and even if you select the explicit "Search for ur orignal txet", it will happily insert random links anyway. So my guess is "More than a single page of hits – and that top 10 sure looks like a lot of reading. Nah, I'll tpyr ma qz into SO thne, typos and all. They'll correct it anyway."
    – Jongware
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 19:05
  • @usr2564301 I used the word "spelling", which caused confusion. I changed it to "picking up". The reasoning is that n words may be synonyms for you, but in certain fields, a specific work is preferred and should be used for query. Incidentally, my poor choice of words and your interpretation almost exemplifies the concern I was thinking about.
    – Mefitico
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 19:13
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Let me tell you a tale of two errors and hopefully it illustrates what what Nicol is saying

PHP's MySQL result error

This is one of the top PHP tag duplicates (you don't have to take my word for it). In 99% of all cases, you can Google this in 5 seconds because they all have the same cause: you forgot to check if your query was successful before you started pulling data sets out. Adding a basic error check, as well as outputting the error MySQL sent back, will easily set you on the right path. As the error message and cause are always the same, Google can actually answer this and people mistakenly assume this is the case for all problems.

But then we come to...

Java's Null Pointer Exception

With 2M+ views and 8200+ links, this might be the most duped question on SO. So, this should be just like the PHP error, right? A quick Google search for a NPE error and... Yikes. Android results? Uhm... I'm a Java programmer! Give me Java results. Let's go ask on SO...

NPE is a term you might not have ever heard of and, more importantly, is not suggested by the ever-changing errors like Unable to start activity on {some Java class here} on a null object reference. Google runs off keywords and NPE is NOT a keyword Google inherently associates with these errors. Not helping things is the lack of the word exception (add that word in and Google hits it square on). So, in this case, 5 seconds on Google might not give you anything remotely close to the answer that can help you. That's why we have dupehammers...

The important point is that Google is not a one-size-fits-all tool. As long as the problems are all the same and consistent in error message, Google does well. Throw a giant class tree in there and exclude an implied keyword, and there's no telling what you'll get.

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Just because you--who know the answer, can formulate a Google query that finds the answer you already know...does not mean the questioner (who basically by definition lacks that knowledge) could have formed the query as easily.

I'm more likely to get on people's cases when plugging in the exact title of their question comes up with the answer on StackOverflow. But even then, you have to wonder: what if they started writing their question after a search, but revised the title at the last minute, due to an evolution of their understanding while writing the question? It might not have occurred to them to search again, after being forced to articulate more precisely what they were asking about!

(I know I've certainly improved questions while writing them, and then neglected to turn around and start my search over from scratch, with all the new clarity. But I've also abandoned questions due to figuring them out while writing them, or decided to turn it into a self-answered question. Or just figured out the problem and modified it to be a public service message with a question-like angle.)

From where we stand, the "why do people do X" aspect of your question is probably "primarily opinion-based". What's important is what makes the best outcome for the resource. So whether the people asking redundant questions know it or not, if their question isn't addressed by a good link on StackOverflow, it might need a good answer here. It's an editable and purposefully archived site, which can improve with time.

As strange as it may seem, a lot of the Internet hasn't caught up with this basic idea--including your random phpBB or "Code Project" or even MSDN. StackOverflow is not Google--link only answers are not considered answers--so to my mind, anything that meets the question criteria and not covered on StackOverflow proper is fair game for a new question here. And having multiple phrasings of the same question that are pointed at duplicates is considered to be a good thing; a kind of organic search augmentation in its own right.

So added in with all the other factors of "y'know, Google is banned to a giant percentage of Earth's population", I think it's worth just doing the job here and answering questions like you would if a friend asked you. Pretend whoever is asking is your friend.

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    And I would tell my friend (and I do, very often) 'hey X, here's what you can do when you have this issue. Google it using these terms.'
    – Patrice
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 22:31
  • @Patrice If that's what you actually do while leaving the answer field entirely blank, I'm betting you don't have a lot of friends. Commented Nov 10, 2018 at 2:50
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    Wow, thx for the ad hominem there. No actually my friends are happy I treat them like adults and I help them find solutions to their own problems so they don't have to turn to me every time. You know, the whole 'teach a man to fish'.
    – Patrice
    Commented Nov 10, 2018 at 10:35
  • @Patrice How swiftly you just jumped to offense underscores my point. This is not a medium for things like "let me Google that for you" links--they were banned for a reason, and it's a good reason. Saying it isn't much better. Re-read what I wrote if you like, because that's what I have to say. Commented Nov 10, 2018 at 10:50
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People don't talk to Google the way they do to a person. They may have tried looking for a solution with Google, and then they gave up. After they gave up on Google, they went to StackOverflow and expressed their problem as a comprehensible question (hopefully). If they would take that question back to Google, they might find their answer in 5 seconds. But they've already given up on that avenue.

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This forum is not the only one that suffers from it. I am a member of a fantastic Sous Vide cooking group. Yet there are people on a daily basis who say "I just bought this meat. Time and temperature" without obviously ever attempting to find it themselves. And one guy that pissed me off got really defensive when I explained how offensive his question was. (because he went a few steps beyond that simple question, demeaning all of us)

I believe it is just human nature.

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    @SASS_Shooter: How was it "reasonable"? The question was "why do people do X?" Your response was "People do a lot of X elsewhere too". That doesn't explain why they do it, either here or there. Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 21:20
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    @SASS_Shooter: Remember that downvotes on meta don't cost you rep. I think people are mostly downvoting as an alternative to flagging "not an answer", not because they actually disagree with your claims. Your edit helps a lot to explicitly make this an answer. Anyway, interesting point that it's not just computers, but other technical subjects, where this happens. Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 21:36
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    @SASS_Shooter: As exemplified by the fact that my answer has over 100 upvotes. Oh wait... Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 22:26
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    Calling Stack Overflow "a forum" surely attracted a lot of these downvotes.
    – Jongware
    Commented Nov 8, 2018 at 23:18
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    @PeterCordes and SASS_Shooter: I wonder if it might have to do with the fact that googling for a solution, as straightforward as it might look like, involves actively surfing the web (an outdated metaphor?). Posting a question is, in a way, a more passive thing to do: you just have to write what is in your mind and then wait for the notifications. Perhaps this also has something to do with the way people often uncritically believe all sorts of fake news when they could google a debunking in 5 seconds.
    – duplode
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 3:09
  • Perhaps read more about how voting on meta is different before you give up on this sub-site entirely. Even after edits, I'm thinking this would fit better as a comment than as an answer to the question at the top of this page.
    – tripleee
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 5:51
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    @SASS_Shooter Re "this is why I rarely give an answer any more", your point was fine, and would have been completely appropriate as a comment, but it really does not rise to the level of an answer. I suspect that may be the reason for down votes rather than the actual content.
    – skomisa
    Commented Nov 9, 2018 at 7:44

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