I've recently started contributing to the review queues, and thought i was getting a good handle on what to flag, but got a flag ban, so maybe I wasn't. If I could get some guidance on what the right thing to do in these situations would be, I'll be better able to contribute without wasting moderators time. I have 32 helpful flags, and 3 declined. Here are my declined flags:
- A question that was only a link to a car part for sale (screenshot for <10k). I flagged it as spam. It has since been deleted so I can't see it, but I understand moderators and high rep users can. My flag was declined as: - a moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it
- An answer: Instead of
update.package(checkBuilt = TRUE)
should beupdate.packages(checkBuilt = TRUE)
, which was a comment correcting a comment to the question. I flagged it as NAA. There is a comment on this answer, upvoted once (i upvoted it to twice) that states "This is not an answer to the initial question. Instead it replies to a previous comment." My flag was declined as: - a moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it. - A question: Please help me debug my attempt to DDOS someone. I believe it came up in review. Since it was declined, I'm assuming I should have flagged it as off topic because it was asking for debugging help and not reproducible (at that time I didn't have close vote privileges), but I flagged it as needing moderator intervention, since this post was looking for help committing a crime (DDOS attacks are crimes in many jurisdictions, including the US and UK). The OP stated in a comment "i wan't to DDOS a very bad website on the darknet" (so it was clearly an attempt to commit a crime, not just for educational purposes). This flag was declined as: - flags should only be used to make moderators aware of content that requires their intervention
To sum up, I'd like to know if these flags were appropriately declined, and what the correct action would be for these posts, again: (1) a link to a sale, (2) a comment as answer with corroborating comments underneath it, (3) a request to help commit a crime.
EDIT:
After some discussion, It looks like there is consensus on (1): use Hanlon's razor, and (2): if a NAA is not obvious from the answer alone, spell it out for the moderator, (3): has resulted in some back and forth discussion. Let me summarize and update the issues for (3) here:
- The post has since been closed, and was then deleted by @BhargavRao. It seems like it's still an open question re: whether users should flag a post requesting help committing a crime, or only vote to close it if it has some other close reason (i.e., off topic, asking for debugging help without a mcve).
- The OP stated he intended to execute a DDOS, but he was stuck and wanted debugging help.
- DDOS attacks are illegal in the US (and other jurisdictions)
- Using the site to engage in illegal activity is against the Terms of Service, see Section 4, and this answer. In the linked answer, the suggestion is to flag these kinds of posts.
- Clear intent to commit a crime (as indicated in this post) is different from shady or possibly malicious activity (e.g., the infamous silk road post, which did not indicate intent to commit a crime, since connecting to a tor hidden service is not illegal.)
- Whether the correct action by a user should be to flag a post with clear intent to commit a crime, or to report a ToS violation by submitting a note to the general help desk is up in the air, and being discussed by moderators
- In the comments, there seems to be a suggestion that if this user had edited his question to be on topic (i.e., provide a reproducible example of the error in his DDOS attempt), it should have been re-opened, and other users should be allowed to help him with his DDOS attack here on SO.
In summary, the remaining open question is: if you see a post that declares an intent to commit a crime, what should you do? Flag it? Send a general note to the help desk? Vote to close if it only if it has other non-ToS related problems?
EDIT2:
The response to the message I sent to support was that they delete these messages and suspend the user if they continue to post this kind of question, so there's nothing else to do right now (since @BhargavRao recently deleted the question). They also suggested I flag these questions in the future:
...raise a moderator flag on the post, as they know these questions aren't allowed and should be deleted, and have all the tools to do anything we would have done in this situation.
So it sounds like moderators would like these posts to be handled by support, and support would like them to be handled by moderators.