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There are 15 questions with the , and there's no tag wiki for it. It is almost certainly intended to be about functions marked extern "C" in C++, and that is how it is used. But it is not used for every question with extern "C" figuring in question by any stretch of the imagination. It seems to have been added fairly recently (2016-02-02) to one much older question. OTOH, it was used in November 2013 for another question, so it isn't a recent invention, for all it is not used very extensively. The tag is used consistently (always with the tag, often with the tag too, which is not unreasonable in this case). No user in the top users list has more than one question or answer.

  • I recommend that this tag should be burninated.
  • Failing that, it should be applied more extensively, and given a tag wiki.

The list of affected questions is so small that I'm very tempted just to remove the tag and get on with life without troubling anyone about it. It certainly doesn't need any extensive work once any approval to remove is given.


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After some discussion with the denizens of SOCVR chat room, and as noted in the second comment below, this has moved into the 'failing that' option — a tag wiki has been created (improvements welcomed — it currently concentrates too much on usage and not enough on a description of what extern "C" does in C++) and some key questions that could usefully have the tag added have had the tag added. Over time, more such questions will be retagged.

A semi-suitable SO search term is: [c++] -[extern-c] extern "c" is:q. At the moment, it shows up some 5000 possible matches, but it shows many false positives — it is hard to search accurately for extern "C" with SO (or, indeed, with Google).

If the consensus turns out to be against this, it is easy enough to move into a burnination operation after all.

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    Thanks for posting this burnination request and allowing the community to take a close look at it. Please note that burninations are not just tag removals - They are the process of carefully moderating a specific place of Stack Overflow. Avoid only mass-editing the tag out of questions as it is counter-productive. Flag/vote/edit/retag the posts after consensus is reached. For more info, see Shog9's answer on MSE or the unofficial SOCVR process. Commented May 30, 2016 at 4:21
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    After some chat on SOCVR, I'll go add a tag wiki description, and think about finding other questions that should be tagged with the tag so it is more generally useful for finding questions. Commented May 30, 2016 at 4:54
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    So, you are against removing the tag, despite nobody actively or passively answering these questions? Why?
    – Braiam
    Commented May 30, 2016 at 13:19
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    @Braiam: If you assess the tag using the four questions, it is a potentially useful tag that was missing a tag wiki and consistent application. It is easy enough to give it a tag wiki; it now has one. I don't doubt it could be improved. It also now has a few more questions with the tag. It was always an "it could go either way" tag. Commented May 30, 2016 at 14:03
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    There were fifteen; there are now around thirty. Yes, I know that some (probably many) people don't read tag wiki information. That doesn't stop it being right to create one. Commented May 30, 2016 at 16:43
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    @Braiam: Burnination is for removing tags which cannot be useful, or for which ambiguity makes the tag dysfunctional. It's not for removing tags which are simply not being used well. Commented May 30, 2016 at 17:25
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    @Braiam: Lack of use is neither abuse nor misuse. Commented May 30, 2016 at 18:10
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    @Braiam: The world isn't binary. Tags that aren't doing good are not by definition bad. Burnination is for tags that are bad, not merely not good. There is a lot of room between good and bad. Making a not-good tag good is far more useful than throwing it away and salting the earth. Commented May 30, 2016 at 19:29
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    @Braiam: "If a question doesn't have the correct tag it will not show the question to the person that is interested in answering those questions" So if the question does have the correct tag, then it will show the question to the person that is interested in answering those questions, right? And therefore, correctly applying that tag to existing questions that ought to have it is a good move, right? Commented May 30, 2016 at 20:04
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    @Braiam: ... I don't understand how your statement follows from mine. You said "yes", which I assume expresses agreement with my statement about applying the tag being a good thing. You then said that the tag shouldn't be applied. That's a contradiction. Commented May 30, 2016 at 20:10
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    I'm confused. Is this still a burnation-request? Meaning that the vote represents the community saying "Burn this!"? It seems to be more of a discussion about improving the current tag wiki.
    – Tunaki
    Commented May 30, 2016 at 23:30
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    @Braiam So people can answer the questions with those tags? There will obviously be no people answering the questions with the tags, if you delete the tags, so how is that situation any better? I'm sure most tags started off with nobody answering them. Commented May 30, 2016 at 23:42
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    @Braiam: "An example would be the boost library" That's not how the Boost tag came to be. It appeared because people used it, not because people edited it into questions later. That's how most tags work: people use them in questions, then others notice and follow them. Use always comes first. Commented May 31, 2016 at 1:20
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    I'm confused about what I am voting for when voting on this question. I initially downvoted it, perceiving it as a suggestion that the tag be burninated. I'm not sure if that vote is still accurate, given the changes to the question. I am not opposed to modifying the tag wiki, and certainly not opposed to adding the tag to the other questions to which it applies.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented May 31, 2016 at 9:00
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    @Braiam: "this has proven not to be useful since in the 4 years of existence" And therefore... what? Not being proven useful is not the same as being proven useless. A tag which has not yet been proven useful may one day prove itself useful. We reserve burnination for tags which are guaranteed to be useless. Who's mere existence is actively bad for the site. Ambiguous tags make it hard to know how to tag a question. Meta-tags are simply a tool being applied incorrectly. extern-c is neither. Commented May 31, 2016 at 21:56

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One explanation of why there are so few posts is because many of them are tagged , which is of course incorrect use of tags.

(The tag in itself is a bit problematic too, since it occasionally pops up for questions not related to C or C++.)

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  • extern is also a keyword in C# for P/Invoke declarations, which probably explains part of why the tag is sometimes used for non-C/C++ questions.
    – reirab
    Commented Jun 1, 2016 at 18:15

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