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I've recently seen some heavily down-voted questions on the Stack Overflow network and I was wondering why none of these have been deleted or closed by moderators. These questions have no need to be kept as they are just wasting precious space on Stack Overflow's servers.

Edit:

A better example of a question which should be deleted is this (which has now been deleted).

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    Because they have good answers.....Pigs find truffles!
    – Paulie_D
    Commented May 14, 2016 at 16:52
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    Probably because of a certain sentence in the question in the first revision. I also think there was a meta post about it, so plus or multiplied by meta effect and since you asked another meta question it will soon be: pow(votes, meta effect)
    – Rizier123
    Commented May 14, 2016 at 16:55
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    42, (!) votes for answering 'use a loop'. Brilliant. Commented May 14, 2016 at 17:04
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    It is a top Google hit for "forcing false return" and has 49 helpful votes. Should we break the Internet? Erm ... probably. Commented May 14, 2016 at 17:21
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    Note that this question also has 49 upvotes, which means that about 1/5 of users who voted think that this question is useful. Commented May 14, 2016 at 17:23
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    Objection: since the accepted answer now tallies a 42 score, the question should stay. More seriously, it could be used as a dupe target for other questions of its kin down the way. Commented May 14, 2016 at 17:26
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    This problem won't go away as long as people keep answering OT questions and getting upvotes for what tends to be chatty guesswork, aka crystal ball debugging. Unfortunately, I certainly don't see that happening.
    – Baum mit Augen Mod
    Commented May 14, 2016 at 21:41
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    @RowanHarley Questions with upvoted answers can be closed, but not deleted. Commented May 14, 2016 at 21:46
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    @user3386109 10K and 20K user certainly can delete a question that has upvoted answers. It is just the OP cannot unilaterally delete it if it has an upvoted answer. Commented May 14, 2016 at 22:25
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    @BaummitAugen: There's an effort to remove the badge most commonly used to defend not downvoting those answers, which you may be interested in. Commented May 15, 2016 at 0:06
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    @user3386109 The author of the question can't delete it themselves when it has an upvoted answer, and it won't be automatically deleted by the roomba if is has an upvoted answer, but a mod or 10k users can still delete it.
    – Servy
    Commented May 15, 2016 at 2:08
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    It'd be hilarious if this question got downvoted to hell too.
    – user458541
    Commented May 15, 2016 at 10:26
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    FWIW, disk space isn't a consideration here, since deleted posts are not actually removed from the servers. They are still visible to users with rep >= 10k, diamond moderators, and Stack Exchange employees.
    – PM 2Ring
    Commented May 15, 2016 at 15:36
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    @Martin Probably because it is a useful question with a useful answer set. It's got tons of downvotes most likely due to others thinking it's a dumb/obvious question. The close reason also seems incorrect. But that's neither here nor there; I've flagged the question for moderator attention so that it can be considered for historical lock.
    – TylerH
    Commented May 16, 2016 at 13:39
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    IMO deleting these questions is pointless and counter productive. Stack is designed to help people. Not just professional programmers but those who are learning. If we delete questions just because people think they aren't good questions we end up losing the entire point of the site. I don't know how many times I've been saved hours from an answer on a downvoted question. By deleting these questions your only going to see more of the same question being asked. Don't be a loser. Stay true to the point of the site and DO NOT DELETE questions that may be helpful Commented May 16, 2016 at 15:47

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The reason is that the proposal in What should the system be deleting automatically that it already isn't? has not been implemented yet. It would take care of many of the questions you refer to:

If a question is more than 30 days old, and...

  • has a score of -1 or less, with no votes in the past 30 days
  • has no answers with a score > 0
  • is not locked

...it will be automatically deleted.

Unfortunately, this is still just a proposal, soon to be two years old.

As an aside, the server space is not saved by deletion, since all deleted posts remain in the database. In fact, deletion uses more space, since it has to be recorded as an event in PostHistory table.

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    The example question had an answer with a score well in excess of 0, so would not have been deleted. Commented May 15, 2016 at 6:47
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    a) Do you know why the deleted posts still remain in the DB? b) Do they ever actually get deleted? Under any circumstances?
    – Arc676
    Commented May 16, 2016 at 9:36
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    @Arc676 Deleted posts are still visible to high reputation users. I suspect the main reason for retaining deleted posts online is for auditing purposes (consider if someone were to be defamed in a post - if this was needed for a court case later on, it's a lot easier if the deleted content is available, rather than having to find just the right backup set; Disks are cheaper than people's time in that scenario) Commented May 16, 2016 at 11:11
  • @Arc676 There are special cases where the SE developers can (and have) gone in and purged the database of a question or answer. It's rare, and there's usually a good reason behind it. Commented May 16, 2016 at 13:31
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    The first question referenced wouldn't be caught by the new criteria since it has multiple positive-score answers.
    – TylerH
    Commented May 16, 2016 at 13:41
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    This answer is incorrect. Questions more than 30 days old that are downvoted, have no answers, and are not locked are automatically deleted by the system, and have been for a while. The suggestions you link to were implemented a long while ago. They would not apply to the questions being discussed here, because these questions have upvoted answers and would not be deleted by the system.
    – Brad Larson Mod
    Commented May 16, 2016 at 14:40
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    @BradLarson But the suggestion in this answer would also include questions that have answers (with 0 or negative score).
    – Laurel
    Commented May 16, 2016 at 17:41
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I'd give it two reasons:

  1. The answers may be good, as written in length in a Stack Exchange article, questions are sand, and good answers are pearls, the goal being the pearls.
  2. It may prevent such questions from being asked repeatedly, and push newbies to learn more about what content is wanted on SE.
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    SE is a punishing place for newbies, and I mean that in every construable way. If you don't like something, at least do somebody the courtesy of telling them why you downvoted their answer. It's not a rule, but it proves you weren't just being a drive-by jerk. And as to the pearls, if we're just trawling the sand for good answers, why even make a question votable? Why bother to implement a system where you can say a question corresponding to a good answer is a good one?
    – user5293625
    Commented May 17, 2016 at 2:07
  • I always try to comment when DVing, but at times it's clear the other side needs to read some FAQs. Questions should be vocable because I don't want to waste my time reading a poorly asked question. @CalebWoodman
    – user5306470
    Commented May 17, 2016 at 2:37
  • In this specific case, the answers aren't particularly good.
    – Lundin
    Commented May 17, 2016 at 9:30
  • @Lundin it's still a program that removes them.
    – user5306470
    Commented May 17, 2016 at 12:48
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Regarding the technical quality of this specific example:

  • The question is essentially beginner-level code begging - how do I write loops, or if you will: "please tell me how to do utterly fundamental things so I don't have to study". It should have been closed from the start. However, bad as the question might be, there's really no point in continuing some nasty bandwagon down-voting past -10.

  • The accepted answer is essentially "here is some fish, please come back for more". It reveals nothing that was not already known by enthusiast or professional C programmers.

    There is nothing in that answer that merits all those up-votes, particularly since it uses unconventional, poor style and also repeats the check twice, which is never good. A more elegant solution worthy of some up-votes would have been something along the lines of:

    kk=0;
    while(kk < 12)
    {
      // ...
    }
    

    I suspect the up-votes are the result of some "meta-effect", where people with little or no experience from C programming decided to cast votes.

  • The first part of the answer by zwol (that answers the question) is a bit obscure but answers the question. No real reason to neither up-vote nor down-vote in my opinion. The second part regarding how to do a binary search is "good stuff" but not really related to the question. It would be a great answer to a different question.

The only thing worth preserving here is the second part of the answer by zwol, but it is out of context for the given question. So I would recommend to delete the whole post with a bit of "collateral damage" as result.

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  • according to current voting guideline I know, I don't think there is something like "already have enough downvotes", since the vote decision should be determined by the content of the post, not the current score of the post
    – ggrr
    Commented Jul 26, 2016 at 1:44
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I've recently seen some heavily down-voted questions on the stack overflow network and I was wondering, why have none of these been deleted or closed by moderators.

Possible reasons:

  • looking at each post below a given threshold in order to review is boring, nobody wants to do that
  • moderators have more important things to do: check flagged posts, remove spam, etc.
  • this post has been forgotten since it received all these downvotes and nobody cared

These questions have no need to be kept as they are just wasting precious space on stack overflow's servers.

Space is not precious (see Hardware is cheap), the price of data storage is decreasing each year. Even if space was precious, it would be a problem for Stack Overflow, not the community. The community do its best to increase the global quality of the questions and answers, the space used by posts is irrelevant.

In other words, if a question is bad, it should be removed only because it's bad, not because it uses space (that's also the case for every content).

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