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I have had this experience several times:

  1. I google a problem I'm having.
  2. One of the top google results happens to be a question posted on StackOverflow.
  3. The StackOverflow question is wildly popular. Tens of thousands of views with dozens or tens of dozens of upvotes and several answers. Some of the answers also have dozens or tens of dozens of votes and much discussion and helpful commentary. Apparently, a question and answer set generally very helpful to lots of people.
  4. Then I notice the question is "Closed as Off Topic" by five high rep users.

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Does the fact that popular and helpful questions are "off topic" reflect an "issue" with what is considered "off topic?"

Isn't the fact that the question and answer set appears to have been helpful and recognized as beneficial and valuable on its face, merit avoiding the "marking" of that question with any form of "social stigmata?"

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    For example? We can tell you about the specific question if you tell us which one it is. It's also possible the question was closed incorrectly.
    – durron597
    Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 22:16
  • Is it also an older question, from when the standards for on-topic were different?
    – ryanyuyu
    Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 22:18
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    This discussion has been had in the past, it was a terribly bloody battle. For better or worse, the general consensus that emerged back then was "no, it doesn't reflect an issue, popularity alone doesn't indicate on-topicness". New off-topic questions tend to not even get to that point anymore because they're closed down before gaining a lot of popularity.
    – Pekka
    Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 22:19
  • @durron597: If it's okay, I would prefer to address this issue as a general matter. Surely, you can agree that my description does happen from time to time, correct? If lots of people want an example to "prove" it does happen, I could provide several. But for now, can we all agree it does happen and let's discuss the issue generally? Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 22:21
  • @Pekka웃: You wouldn't happen to be able to locate a link to that prior discussion would you? I would love to read it. "...popularity alone doesn't indicate on-topicness?" That seems odd to me that the focus should be whether it's on topic as opposed to how much it helps people who need help. Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 22:24
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    @Mowzer Every "off-topic" close reason is there because those categories of questions don't generate good content in a Q&A model. You have to draw the line somewhere, and "this may help someone" allows far too much through. Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 22:29
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    Here's a list of the highest scoring non-deleted non-duplicate closed questions. Basically those kinds questions don't work on Stack Overflow because there is no concrete answer and they generally attract opinionated answers and spam. If you could see all of the deleted answers to those questions you would be amazed.
    – user4639281
    Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 22:54
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    Extremely related blog.stackexchange.com/2012/01/the-trouble-with-popularity
    – Braiam
    Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 23:05
  • Is there something like talk.SE.com? For the opinion based content, and everyone will be happy.
    – klenium
    Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 23:21
  • @Mowzer: We have guidelines about topicality for a reason, which is to keep the site very specific in its focus. We don't want off-topic questions asked, whether they'll be popular or not. There are other sites within SE for other topics. This one is about programming and programmers tools, within a narrowly defined set of guidelines, in order to keep that focus. Also, guidelines evolve over time, and many older questions were on topic when asked (because other sites didn't yet exist, for instance), but are not appropriate now.
    – Ken White
    Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 23:39
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  • I think what you are asking is in order to keep the web social and stackoverflow.com social as well, is to let the users decide what is or isn't important and not the 0.001%ers who always manage to screw it up usually do to some form of short sightedness.
    – RetroCoder
    Commented Aug 26, 2015 at 1:05
  • @klenium If you would like to have opinionated discussions, try a chat room
    – cimmanon
    Commented Aug 26, 2015 at 1:07
  • @RetroCoder: SO was never designed to be social, so I'm not sure that's really relevant. (That said, in practice, the users do decide what is or isn't important. They do so through a heavily-intermediated process involving upvoting users who then get enough rep to close-vote and other users posting meta discussions that bring wide community agreement.) Commented Aug 26, 2015 at 3:51
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    meta.stackexchange.com/tags/broken-windows/info
    – gnat
    Commented Aug 26, 2015 at 4:53

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This question cannot be addressed in a general way.

There are many types of highly voted, closed questions:

  1. Blatantly off topic questions that are also locked, such as:
  2. Questions that used to be appropriate, but no longer are, as we've had to tighten up site standards.
  3. Questions that were inappropriately closed by high rep users. Here are some questions that are currently open but have been closed at least 3 times:

So, to answer your question. We do the best we can. As a community, we will not always agree on scope. If the disagreements get too bad, moderators will lock posts to prevent close/reopen wars, but leave useful information around and available. The hope is that the Wisdom of the Crowd will ultimately win out, with some sage input from moderators and staff in extreme cases.

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I don't think this represents an issue.

Questions that are "clickbait" are by their nature going to be wildly popular (especially going off of views). A good example would be asking:

Which is better: C#, Java, or PHP

Which would be closed as opinon-based instead of off-topic, but the question could also be:

What is the best unit testing library for X?

Which is asking for a resource reccomendation (an off-topic reason).

Both of these questions do not fit well with a QA model, as there is no "right" answer (and more importantly, no "wrong" one). They will generate lots of heated debate, potential spam, nonconstructive comments and other undesirable content.

So even though these questions will generate lots of attention (and probably votes), they are actually bad questions for the site, and are correctly closed.

To your edit.

These questions should absolutley still be closed. (note that I said closed, not deleted). If policies are not enforced uniformly, similar questions will be seen as OK. This already happens ("but, a question from 2008 like mine was upvoted!") and would get far worse if new questions were allowed to stand just because people liked them.

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  • It's clear: PHP
    – klenium
    Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 22:31
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    @klenium Lol, now we need a C# and Java comment so we can settle it once and for all through comment votes :) Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 22:33
  • Yeah. And that's why off-content should stay off-content.
    – klenium
    Commented Aug 25, 2015 at 22:37

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