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This edit of mine got rejected today:

https://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7062320

The reason given was "This edit defaces the post in order to promote a product or service, or is deliberately destructive.", which is funny because it makes no sense to me.

As far as I'm concerned, the edit was a genuine attempt to improve the post. And given the diff, I simply cannot comprehend how someone (let alone three reviewers) would suspect my being deliberately defacing the post, or promoting a product...

Is there any means to contest such cases?

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    The reviewers were probably intimidated by all the splotches of color in the diff.
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Feb 16, 2015 at 19:24
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    The only questionable change that I see is changing "variable" to "value" as being potentially a semantic change, although without domain knowledge, I can't say conclusively.
    – Servy
    Commented Feb 16, 2015 at 19:26
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    @Servy I changed this because the parenthesis contains "SEs" and the user wants to get a "p-values" instead. In this context, it makes little sense to call this... value a "variable", and "value" is a more neutral and appropriate choice of vocabulary... It could also be the value of a "t-test". Also, the title as it is is simply not helpful for other users, and that little deserved a revamp...
    – landroni
    Commented Feb 16, 2015 at 19:29
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    It is possible that the reviewers made a snap judgement that this was an audit. Also, your edit suggestion could really use a much better summary. Commented Feb 16, 2015 at 19:40
  • @JasonMArcher Yeah, a better summary may have been in order. But I didn't anticipate that the edit would prove contentious...
    – landroni
    Commented Feb 16, 2015 at 19:48
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    I don't agree with the rejection; in particular, the reason. Though, generally speaking, changing the semantics of questions doesn't resinate with those that might otherwise raise them. Also, is SEs shorthand for Standard Errors? That seems a bit too lingo to me... Commented Feb 16, 2015 at 21:23
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    Worth to mention that nothing can be done with this specific review: rejected edit can't be approved, best we can do is invite all three rejectors to see this meta post so they won't repeat same mistake again with other reviews. Commented Feb 16, 2015 at 21:28
  • @BrettCaswell Yes, Standard Errors. For those reading the question, in the context of stargazer and linear models, this should be self-explanatory in most cases. But it doesn't hurt to insert to insert the long version in the question...
    – landroni
    Commented Feb 16, 2015 at 21:32
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    Looks to me like they tacked on to the "I love Stargazer" right at the front, although it was (obscurely) already in the original question, and interpreted that as a promotional message. Removing or rephrasing it would actually improve the question, too (seems somebody already did); but if my conjecture is correct, that was a sloppy review by the auditors.
    – tripleee
    Commented Feb 17, 2015 at 5:52
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    Good edit, landroni. Poor reviewing. Too many people don't take the time to understand when reviewing. Commented Feb 17, 2015 at 6:08

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Is there any means to contest such cases?

Yes, and you already did it by asking the question meta.

As for the rejected edit: The reason given seems a bit strange. You cleaned the post and changed the title contentwise. I cannot judge the quality but I can say that it definitely became more specific which would be a good thing.

So provided that it makes sense this edit should definitely have been accepted. As a reviewer I would have needed to skip it due to lack of knowledge.

The reviewers who rejected the edit are well known members but probably a bit unexperienced in R judging by their tags. It may be that it was a misjudgement.

If someone confirms that the edit is sound, anyone >2k rep should just do it or you should submit it again.

These things happen. Here are only humans at work but most probably with only good intentions.

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On first glance, it looks like a review audit. I got hundreds of them so I know when I see one... or something that looks very similar.

The use of the word "Stargazer" in the title is the most intimating, it takes a while to notice it's actually being used as a tag and that you just moved it from the beginning to the end of the title.

Personally I would have approved after taking a second and third look, but can see the reviewers point of view as well.

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    Well, but if you see something like that in the title and you find it intimidating you should stop, reread, and think whether you should skip it, google for "stargazer" and see what it is, etc. etc. you don't reject the edit as spam!
    – nico
    Commented Feb 16, 2015 at 22:03
  • @nico easy to say it now, but when you're at it, you sometimes forget to stop and take another look. Commented Feb 16, 2015 at 22:20
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    If they had given a different close reason I would agree with you, but before accusing someone of spamming I would definitely stop and think twice. And, maybe the first reviewer was fooled by the title, but the other two just clicked whatever the other had chosen without even thinking. This is exactly the type of behaviour that motivates audits...
    – nico
    Commented Feb 16, 2015 at 22:28
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    Maybe there are not enough positive audits.. if the possibility of an audits biases reviewers to choose the negative outcome. Commented Feb 17, 2015 at 8:30
  • @Trilarion no positive audits for suggested edits at all, only bad. Commented Feb 17, 2015 at 10:26
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    @nico: But do those reviewers really think the edit was deliberate vandalism/spamification? That's a serious charge; how often does that sort of thing happen in real life? How quick would the reviewers have been to choose that reason--or to reject the edit at all--if they didn't know about review audits? I suspect audits are the main reason why they didn't "stop, reread, and think" in this case.
    – Alan Moore
    Commented Feb 18, 2015 at 4:55
  • @Alan true, I agree the suggested edits audits cause more harm than good - they are way too easy to notice and as this case proves, cause false positives. Commented Feb 18, 2015 at 7:04
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    @ShadowWizard So, they're not as easy to notice as you thought they were, and when you see something that might be an audit, you should still pay attention. That's what the audits are for in the first place: forcing you to pay attention.
    – user743382
    Commented Feb 18, 2015 at 11:28
  • @hvd personally that's exactly what I'm doing, but can also understand how come others don't do it and that's what my answer is trying to say. Commented Feb 18, 2015 at 11:29
  • @ShadowWizard Sorry, by "you" I didn't mean you personally. :)
    – user743382
    Commented Feb 18, 2015 at 11:32
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    @nico Audits generally are vandalism and they look similar to this edit at a glance. So it's quite possible that the reviewer thought "Yet another of those annoying audits. => reject as vandalism". Commented Feb 18, 2015 at 11:48

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