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How to deal with this special kind of plagiarism?

1) Original (most probably): Invalid Pointer Operation - Delphi XE

2) Plagiarism (most likely): EInvalidPointer message with 'Invalid Pointer Operation'

The text seems to be first class plagiarism with obscuring modifications. But maybe the intent isn't that bad: many SO users are not native English speakers, so one can understand that, besides Google, this kind of "help" is used. These 3 sequences match exactly:

program compiles and runs successfully, but during debugging only it pops up a message box saying "Invalid Pointer Operation" when shutting the program down.

I found none and they execute as expected without any error.

When I do tell the compiler to break at Invalid Pointer Operation error, it doesn't do anything but hangs up the program.

Making a screenshot does not need special language skills, the one in the second question seems to be made by the asker.

I already flagged the question, but there are no visible reactions so far...

What do you think?

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    The window styles differ and one screenshot has a checkbox checked while the other one hasn't.. It is a standard error message, why would they need to plagiarise that at all? Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 14:14
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    @MartijnPieters Sorry, a misunderstanding, the plagiarism is in the text. I should probably better quote it.
    – Wolf
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 14:16
  • Right, the questions do seem closely related. Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 14:16
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    @KevinBrown: the question body text is awfully close, but altered sufficiently with a new screenshot to not be obvious at first. Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 14:17
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    Yep, the question text seems to be badly copied...
    – l4mpi
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 14:17
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    Are there other posts from the second user that fit this pattern? The question is rather old, the damage was done and a good answer was posted, so we cannot just go and delete this. It can certainly be dupe-voted, perhaps merged. Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 14:19
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    How can you plagiarise a question? If anything, it's a duplicate. Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 14:47
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    @Р̀СТȢѸ́ФХѾЦЧШЩЪЫЬѢѤЮѦѪѨѬѠѺѮѰѲѴ: Plagiarism is defined as copying someone else's work and passing it off as your own. It can apply to any type of written work. It may sound strange to "plagiarise" a question, so I prefer to think of it as parroting someone else's words and pretending you said them yourself. Which is equally mind-boggling.
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 14:54
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    @Wolf: Just curious, but how did you even find this in the first place?
    – musefan
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 14:54
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    @Р̀СТȢѸ́ФХѾЦЧШЩЪЫЬѢѤЮѦѪѨѬѠѺѮѰѲѴ How can you plagiarise a comment? If anything, it's a duplicate.
    – l4mpi
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 14:55
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    This has got to be the most intriguing case of plagiarism I have ever seen.
    – corsiKa
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 15:01
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    @corsiKa This is kind of typical, if you expect that your "work" will be checked for plagiarism, you'll try to hide it by modifications. As we see, not very well done in this case.
    – Wolf
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 15:04
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    @corsiKa: As a mod, I've seen 1) 100% plagiarized questions, no changes whatsoever, "EDIT:" portions included, with askers then responding to answers as though the questions were their own when it's pretty obvious from their writing style that they aren't 2) answers that are plagiarized with a few words changed here and there, like the case being described here 3) users with the habit of posting such answers, with some of the absolute worst plagiarism cases I've ever had the pleasure to deal with in my capacity.
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 15:05
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    Why can a question not be plagiarized? It is posted content. If the text is verbatim then it is plagiarism, there is no grey area. Copied content without attribution is plagiarism. Period. End of statement. the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own. A question is essentially a reproduction of work with a dilemma or quandary. With the phrasing it seems almost entirely unlikely that any two different people would compose that sentence.
    – Travis J
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 23:11
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    It's clear that the latter question copied the former, since the sentence that begins "I found none" makes sense in the first question, but is a complete non sequitur in the second, due to the sentence just before it having been omitted. Commented Jan 14, 2015 at 20:20

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As mentioned in the comments, it's been quite a while since this took place, so there's not much that can be done except merging the newer question into the older one and scratching our heads puzzled as to what must have gone through the mind of that user to have thought copying the overall presentation, as well as a few phrases and sentences verbatim, was a perfectly sound thing to do.

At the very least, merging will result in the newer question becoming nothing more than a stub, with all its answers being transferred to the older question.

Usually, if you catch someone doing something like this, you can vote to close it as a duplicate immediately if you have the original link, and ask the user why they did that. I'd like to know why people do this as well.

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    I'd like to know why people do this as well. for a question on SO, a screenshot alone is not sufficient, but if decorated with some words, it will be accepted. But writing is hard work. (Illustrations are great eye-catchers.)
    – Wolf
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 15:09
  • @Wolf: But even though it's a screenshot of what I presume is their own program, it's the same error message. I mean, surely that's how they discovered the original question, right?
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 15:10
  • Now it seems even more unclear, who was plagiarizing.
    – Wolf
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 15:15
  • @Wolf: That site, like many others, rehosts content off of Stack Overflow. It does link back to the original and acknowledge the content license though, so it's not stealing.
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 15:17
  • I see. Many sites. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's not. It can be really confusing at first glance.
    – Wolf
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 15:25
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    I believe it is most likely that these people were following the same tutorial / book / example when they got the error.
    – user267817
    Commented Jan 13, 2015 at 23:16
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    @Grant: Even so I still can't fathom what compels them to create questions that are nearly identical except for a few changed words. It's not like the book provides a sample question to post on Stack Overflow that they then copy off of or something, is it?
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Jan 14, 2015 at 3:21
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    @BoltClock You got me in stitches with the image of a book providing a sample question to post on Stack Overflow. I can't explain that either, but I asked the questioner to explain with a link to this thread so hopefully he or she will be so kind to resolve this mystery.
    – user267817
    Commented Jan 14, 2015 at 3:37
  • @Grant No, it's not just two people who happened to get the same error. Look at the phrase "I found none" in each question. In one question, it refers to checking for errors, mentioned in the previous sentence. In the other question, the bit about checking for those errors has been omitted, and so "I found none" becomes a complete non sequitur. Commented Jan 14, 2015 at 20:22
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    I would guess the OP copied the sentences as help in his use of the English language. When you look at others questions of this user, you can see that his English is not particularly good (but not terribly bad either), so I guess he saw the first question and had the same /very similar problem and posted his questions with the copied sentences with the intention to have use correct English.
    – dirkk
    Commented Jan 14, 2015 at 21:15
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    @dirkk: That has been the only plausible explanation so far, along with cultural influences. Unfortunately academics see it as plagiarism which, regardless of intentions, is considered wrong. We try to take a more diplomatic approach when speaking to users who habitually engage in this behavior, but it's a little disheartening we have to do so at all. (And I'm honestly not sure they'll even understand what we tell them...)
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Jan 15, 2015 at 2:44
  • @BoltClock is there another English term besides plagiarism for the product of plagiarism (the copy itself) in the non-academic scope, that is more commonly used, maybe verbatim copy or rip-off?
    – Wolf
    Commented Jan 15, 2015 at 9:00

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