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This guy seems to be regurgitating at-best-sketchy answers to simple questions answered long ago, along with links to his favorite website. After I saw three or four of them I looked at his page and it seems it's all he's been been doing for days, and all the answering he's ever done except one from three years ago.

The answers I flagged are all deleted but one, that one had the link edited out, and all the flags were declined.

Here's a sample of dozens of similar answers:

We can find the permutation of a string by using recursion.

  • Take the first character of the input string.

  • Permute all the characters in the remainder of the string recursively and create a new array with them.

  • Add the first character into each possible position of the new array and return.

For example and code http //www.algoqueue.com/algoqueue/default/view/6684672/print-permutation-of-a-string

Should I have just gone ahead and edited out all the links, or what? None of the ones I looked at for any length of time contributed anything to speak of.

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    I see bluefeet is working his way through his answers. My 2 cents is your flags were correct. The user, while providing some valid answers, was linking to his profile everywhere, which is not generally considered acceptable. Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:40
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    I guess some moderators would handle such flags differently. I've seen another moderator mark such flags as helpful, then proceed to delete the flagged answer, instead of editing out the (arguably spam) link.
    – user456814
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:50
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    @Cupcake Spam links should never be edited out of posts. It just makes work harder for the mods and community to deal with them. Spam-deleted posts are automatically redacted by the SE software.
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:54
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    Seems like all this whack-a-doodle does is copy/paste answers from another website. Commented Jun 14, 2014 at 1:30
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    I ask this question out of pure ignorance. Why would anyone want to behave like this on a serious website? I've been a large contributor on a language website in the past, and behavior similar to this would get the user banned (can't login, ip address blocked).
    – TimSPQR
    Commented Jun 16, 2014 at 0:26
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    I found myself in a similar situation to you before, so this might be relevant: How is this not spam? Commented Jun 16, 2014 at 1:05

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Raising a flag for the moderators is correct, however, you incorrectly flagged these answers as spam. Spam flags have harsh penalties to users so we are very selective when we accept them.

Spam flags should be used for the following:

This answer is effectively an advertisement with no disclosure. It is not useful or relevant, but promotional.

In my opinion, the user was attempting to answer the questions and instead of including the code they included a link to the code - which was wrong, but not spam.

If you find yourself in this situation again, all you need to do is use a custom flag on a single answer by the user explaining the issue similar to "This user's answers include a link to an outside website in most/all of the answers."

Feel free to use your edit power to remove the links, comment to the user, vote, etc. if you think any of their answers are deserving of these actions.

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  • Okay, so do I have it right below, that a spam flag isn't any kind of warning at all, but a foad? I promise that's my last on this, it's already taken up way too much of everyone's time, and thank you.
    – jthill
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 23:02
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    @jthill Use spam flags for actual advertisements, users get hit with a big penalty for spamming which is partly why we are careful with them. Another thing to keep in mind, when you find a pattern just flag once, we don't need 10+ flags on the same issue. But you did the right thing in flagging, you just used the wrong flag. :)
    – Taryn Mod
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 23:05
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    I want to point out that this user has been posting links to algoqueue.com since the start of June. According to AlgoQueue's About page, they launched May of this year. It appears to be a Q&A site like Stack Overflow, but tailored to algorithms. They also run ads on the site. Most of the linked posts I've seen are by "indrani", who according to LinkedIn, is a technical writer there. She also may be based out of New York, where this "Neel" user says he's from in his profile.
    – user456814
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 23:30
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    I could be wrong, but all of this strongly suggests undisclosed spam advertising to me.
    – user456814
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 23:31
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    If someone is posting answers with the main aim of promoting a link to a website that they run or are involved with, surely that is spam. It is effectively an advertisement, as the subtext says, and should be flagged as such
    – podiluska
    Commented Jun 14, 2014 at 15:50
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    @bjb568 was editing this post for an apostrophe really needed? Commented Jun 15, 2014 at 19:56
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    @RUJordan I was just seeing how people would react :)
    – bjb568
    Commented Jun 15, 2014 at 21:10
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    Created a new question here to discuss whether this should be considered spam or not. In my opinion this clearly qualifies as "unsolicited advertisement" just with a little spin to make it a bit less obvious.
    – Voo
    Commented Jun 16, 2014 at 1:17
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I see bluefeet is working her way through his answers. My 2 cents is your flags were generally correct, but there may be side issues depending on the type of flag you chose. The user, while providing some valid answers, was linking to his profile everywhere, which is not generally considered acceptable.

In response to your edit, what flag did you choose?

IF you picked Spam or Not An Answer, they it makes sense they were declined because those types of flags have specific meanings that impact other aspects (such as the spam filter and review audits). When you see someone acting in such a manner, it is often better to flag a single answer with a custom "other" flag and explain the situation, rather than flagging several different answers with "Not an Answer"

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    Ahem... working her way through this...
    – Taryn Mod
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:52
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    @bluefeet I always assumed you were male :/
    – user456814
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:53
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    I would have flagged as spam. It looks like an attempt to gain clicks to algoqueue.com, and honestly, some (if not most or all) of the answers are really bad, like this one with no explanation, just code dump.
    – user456814
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:54
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    You know what they say about assumptions, @Cupcake...
    – Shog9
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:54
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    ...they can be embarrassingly inaccurate.
    – Shog9
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:55
  • Spam - fig-leaf content covering for what I thought was plainly an advertising link. What did I miss?
    – jthill
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:55
  • @jthill looked like advertising to me too...
    – user456814
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:55
  • @bluefeet fixed, my apologizes Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:56
  • @psubsee2003 No worries. :)
    – Taryn Mod
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:56
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    @jthill the problem is the spam flag is for obvious advertisement - such as "hey go buy your gucci bags here". Less obvious stuff often needs an "other" flag, plus where bluefeet said Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:57
  • Okay: spam isn't any kind of a warning, it's a foad.
    – jthill
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 22:59
  • @Blastfurnace Unfortunately we have 1.4k+ flags in the queue so it takes some time to get to "Other" flags but we will act on them when we hit them. Also remember that if you have edit privileges you can always edit the answers to remove the link, etc. :)
    – Taryn Mod
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 23:01
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    @jthill the spam flag carries a -100 rep penalty, so it can be somewhat unfair to someone who is trying to be somewhat helpful and has otherwise tried to contribute to the community. It also feeds the internal spam filter so erroneous "helpful" flags by mods can alter the way the system works Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 23:02
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    I really feel like there should be more obvious indications of the SO definition of "spam". I know it says "effectively an advertisement with no disclosure", but a lot of people just read the titles, and "spam" has morphed to mean more than just "buy v1agr1", but also "asdlfasdfhaoeur1f9u8d3 lul lul lul" (on a lot of sites, that aren't this one).
    – neminem
    Commented Jun 13, 2014 at 23:26
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    @WGroleau If removing the link makes it not an answer - then flag as not an answer.
    – Taryn Mod
    Commented Jun 14, 2014 at 0:29
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Flags have big impact on the flagged person

There are serious punishments for getting flagged (as I've heard) and it's best to only flag it if it's a troll answer or something irreverent to the question. I shall give a crappy example:

Q: How do I make a variable in Javascript?

A: just put the code line var in ur script it will make varible

That's not helping anyone, so flag it and do us all a favor.

Whereas is he kindly stated and in detail explained how to make a variable in javascript, as so:

A: You make a variable by putting var at the start of the variable, then make it look something like this:

var name = myName(name) {
<code here>;
};

Remember, the semicolons are important!

THAT'S AN ANSWER. THAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE ON STACKOVERFLOW. So next time you want to flag an answer, make sure it doesn't work or there isn't enough detail beforehand, don't just flag posts willy-nilly because they are short and you think they are spam.

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    "That's not helping anyone, so flag it and do us all a favor." Uhhh. No. The example you posted is an example of a bad answer, but still an attempt at an answer that diamond mods are unlikely to delete. "...make sure it doesn't work or there isn't enough detail beforehand..." Do not flag an answer because it is wrong or poorly written. If it is an attempt to answer the question and not spam, then the worst you should do it downvote and possible comment to explain what is wrong with the answer.
    – Kendra
    Commented Feb 23, 2015 at 16:18
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    This FAQ post should explain that a little better than I did. Please, take the time to read through it.
    – Kendra
    Commented Feb 23, 2015 at 16:27

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