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Simple math:

4 + 1 = 5, not 21.

I believe there was a recent change counting all posts one can review (except Close queue of course) instead of only suggested edits, but still... there shouldn't be such a big difference.

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  • Do you have tag filters applied to those queues?
    – A. Webb
    Commented Apr 30, 2014 at 7:24
  • @A.Webb: It has nothing to do with tag filters. Commented Apr 30, 2014 at 7:24

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As of yesterday (April 6, 2017) we no longer show a count for this at all; instead, we highlight the indicator if...

  • You haven't clicked the review button on the top bar, reviewed any posts, or visited /review in some period of time (currently 60 minutes) and...
  • ...There are more than a trivial number of tasks waiting to be reviewed (currently 513, or roughly half the median number of tasks normally pending in a given hour - this is subject to change at any time, as the number on which it is based has been all over the map as we've been making changes to the top bar and review criteria these past few months).

This isn't ideal, but it's a step up from what we had... And more importantly, it's reasonably fast - which can't be said for previously-attempted perfectly-accurate counters. Since it has to run on every page load (and occasionally update while the page is visible), being fast is really critical; easy to make the site completely unusable if we fail to achieve that.

There's also a snazzy drop-down listing the queues, so you can check on what's new without having to leave the page you're on:

drop down list of review queues

Kudos to Oded for whipping this up!

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  • Hehe, totally forgot I asked this. Thanks! Commented Apr 7, 2017 at 22:18
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    We couldn't forget, unfortunately. There was a reminder, stuck to the top of our pages, every time we visited the site. Bloody annoying, so we had to do something about it.
    – Shog9
    Commented Apr 7, 2017 at 22:21
  • I just did a double-take: "this feature's been around since 2016???" I assume you meant 2017, though it's too trivial an edit for me to suggest. Commented Apr 7, 2017 at 22:23
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    Dammit... Thanks, @Kernel. Now I have to go re-issue some checks.
    – Shog9
    Commented Apr 7, 2017 at 22:25
  • I wonder who decided to stick the top bar... hmm... :D Commented Apr 7, 2017 at 22:26
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    @Shog9 can you display the queue maximum if any? For example, 191/200, with a bolder text when close to reach the limit?
    – Cœur
    Commented Apr 8, 2017 at 1:41
  • Is it meant to be the case that clicking anywhere on the page removes the highlight? I assume this was only meant to happen when the menu is closed, but literally clicking anywhere on the page will remove it.
    – DavidG
    Commented Apr 11, 2017 at 11:21
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    No, that's a bug @DavidG: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/347711/…
    – Shog9
    Commented Apr 12, 2017 at 18:22
  • @Cœur the only queue that has a hard limit is the suggested edits one. Others queue don't have any limit.
    – Braiam
    Commented Apr 12, 2017 at 23:46
  • An indicator that doesn't even try to take the number of actionable items is not a step up. Removing the numerical indication makes it a step down. Commented Apr 26, 2017 at 23:34
  • Related, sorry, I may be making a mess scattering posts all over the place.
    – Jason C
    Commented May 30, 2017 at 20:33
  • When is this going to propagate to other sites (gamedev.SE)?
    – Engineer
    Commented Jun 1, 2017 at 16:05
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    No idea, @Arcane; we just finally rolled it out to the Int'l versions of SO, so I'd guess we could turn it on on most sites now... But I expect we'll wanna go slowly & catch bugs.
    – Shog9
    Commented Jun 2, 2017 at 22:01
  • Do you know what is the threshold for int'l versions? In Stack Overflow en español I see the counter in orange with only 2 items in the queues.
    – fedorqui
    Commented Jun 7, 2017 at 6:31
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    I've added an answer here that covers the value on other sites, @fedorqui
    – Shog9
    Commented Jun 7, 2017 at 19:31
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See Adam Lear's response to the original feature request:

It is also cached, so may or may not be very accurate depending on the amount of ongoing activity in /review at any given time.

and in the comments below it is the remark that:

It's the total [number of review items]. It doesn't take individual user actions into account at all at the moment.

So the number is off because it is cached and not your personal count.

Providing a personalised count would ask too much of the Stack Exchange servers; the count would have to be recalculated on every page request, and depends on the review actions of everyone else. So, as Shog9 puts it:

Super-expensive to personalize this - so the alternative is simply not having an indicator. Think of it as... A reminder to encourage your peers to review.

Either we have an indicator that's somewhat incorrect, or no indicator at all. On an insanely active site like Stack Overflow that means it is incorrect all the time, unfortunately.

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  • OK, but still looks weird to me to see e.g. 100 and have only 10. I'll get used to it. ;-) Commented Apr 30, 2014 at 7:28
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    For me, the Orange counter used to work well up until about a week ago. Since then it is an entry to disappointment by showing 20-40 for review after a page refresh upon which I click within a few seconds and are shown maybe 1 or 2. Also, it is not going directly to the questions to review, but the review categories (as show by the OP). Perhaps that change is closely associated?
    – wallyk
    Commented Apr 30, 2014 at 16:55
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    @wallyk: the indicator behaviour changed yesterday, see the post linked from my answer. It used to indicate only suggested edits, now it indicates review tasks. Commented Apr 30, 2014 at 16:56
  • I don't agree with this answer. The counter has always shown the personal counter, not a general counter. Since a few months the counter is off. Maybe the behaviour has changed and now it does not show the personal counter any more? In that case the counter does not make sense any more. Commented Jul 25, 2014 at 7:08
  • @BartGijssens: you are confusing two counters. The one in the top bar has never shown a personal count. The review page itself did show per-queue counters that were personalised, until recently. See Review page does not work as before Commented Jul 25, 2014 at 7:11
  • @BartGijssens: this specific question was about the top-bar count, not the review page. Commented Jul 25, 2014 at 7:12
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    @Martijn Pieters: I know. I have always experienced the top-bar count as the total of the counters in the review page. At some point it changed. Which is fine, except that it then became a UX problem. I no longer understand the purpose of the top-bar counter any more. Posted a question here: meta.ux.stackexchange.com/questions/1693/… Commented Jul 25, 2014 at 7:19
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    why do we bother to show the number at all if we know that it is mostly wrong? Why don't we just display an exclamation mark, or similar, to notify users that there are things to review? Commented Oct 16, 2014 at 15:34
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    This is horrible UI. The number should reflect what its tooltip says: the total number of posts awaiting review (across all queues, regardless of site, i.e., including S.O.). And the number should disappear when the count is (should be!) zero. Anything less than this is, well just broken UI.
    – Drew
    Commented Oct 26, 2014 at 19:48

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