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The description of the tag states:

A response by a webserver, that asks the user agent to not show the response body, but instead request a different resource. Questions can be related to Redirect Protocols, Link Equity and Types of Redirects.

However, there are several questions where this has been used for questions about redirecting stdout/stderr. For example, doing a search for [stdout] [redirect] gives me over 200 results, and most of the ones on the first page involve redirecting output streams.

(Possibly all of them did, I didn't have time to read them all in detail.)

There is a tag which would fit some of these cases, but no equivalent

I do not have enough rep to edit that many posts in a row - IIRC I can have at most five in the review queue waiting for approval - so I'm hoping that mods or higher-rep users can act on this and remove the tag en masse from the relevant posts.

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    redirectstandardoutput is a horrible tagname, IMO.
    – rene
    Commented Jan 23 at 13:10
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    We had url-redirection but that became a synonym stackoverflow.com/tags/redirect/synonyms
    – rene
    Commented Jan 23 at 13:14
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    We already have http-status-code-301, for what it's worth. (And 302, 303, 307 and 308 as well!).
    – yivi
    Commented Jan 23 at 13:28
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    Again... who is hurt by this? Just fix questions as you come across them naturally and you won't disrupt the natural order of things. There is no need to edit anything en masse, nobody will be helped by that. Except people who have a severe OCD when it comes to tags. As long as people tag like we're on Twitter and people refuse to read tag descriptions, they'll keep popping up on the wrong questions. Trying to curate that as a whole at this point in time is the act of ice skating uphill. I mean who in their right mind is going to use "redirectstandardoutput" ? No. Redirect of course.
    – Gimby
    Commented Jan 23 at 13:47
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    At this point we might as well add the second meaning to the tag excerpt and be done with it.
    – rene
    Commented Jan 23 at 14:13
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    @Gimby The goal of posts like these is to make sure we don't have bad tagging. I agree that [thistagisreallyspecific] is not a helpful convention, but neither is "Just periodically clean it up".
    – Machavity Mod
    Commented Jan 23 at 15:34
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    What if we renamed it to [web-redirect] and cleaned the tag some?
    – Machavity Mod
    Commented Jan 23 at 15:56
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    if anything [web-redirect] is an awful proposal.
    – rene
    Commented Jan 23 at 16:19
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    I’d prefer [http-redirect] myself.
    – yivi
    Commented Jan 23 at 16:22
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    Given the continued lack of development of the tagging system and UI, I think it's fairer to describe a tag as being ambiguous, rather than blame the users for "incorrect use". In the desktop UI, tag descriptions are shown briefly as you type, or if you know to leave your mouse in one place for two seconds; in the mobile UI, they are entirely absent. Unless and until that changes, users will tag things based on their intuition, not tag descriptions, and we should manage tags on that basis.
    – IMSoP
    Commented Jan 24 at 15:17
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    @rene well, blame Microsoft for the naming...
    – Andrew T.
    Commented Jan 25 at 2:30
  • @IMSoP There is no python4 on the roadmap, at least not for some decades. The lang devs have learnt the 2->3 lession. Somewhere I have read, they consider python4 as a joking example for a decade of needless sucks.
    – peterh
    Commented Apr 24 at 0:15

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I suggest that the tag be deprecated with an eye toward eventual burnination, and in its place, encourage the use of for web redirection questions, and a new tag, perhaps or be created and use encouraged for questions involving redirection of streams (stdio, stderr, powershell's info, etc.).

(In response to comments:) I’ve since learned that there is also an tag; it might make sense to merge them (and any specific web-redirects, such as ), though I’m not firm in either camp on that question. There is also an tag that looks like it should serve for my suggested when dealing with bash, powershell, winbatch, etc.; for redirection that is not implemented by the shell, perhaps would still be suitable.

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    I would say these tag names should consistently use -redirection instead of -redirect. Commented Jan 24 at 1:50
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    What is "powershell's info"? Commented Jan 24 at 4:15
  • I feel we'd be better served changing the usage to use the existing 3xx tags linked by yivi above, (eg http-status-code-301, and just adding some more generic synonyms (eg 301-redirect, 301-moved-permanently), rather than attempting to maintain a http(s)-redirect tag on top.
    – Robotnik
    Commented Jan 24 at 6:05
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    @Robotnik all 3xx status codes is about http-redirection, and the user may only know that the question is about doing a "http redirection", so I find it difficult to use a specific 3xx-tag in the general case.
    – Jonas
    Commented Jan 24 at 9:18
  • @PeterMortensen - PowerShell has iostreams other than stdin, stdout, and stderr that can be redirected; one of them is the 'info' stream (I forget the number, offhand) and is the stream that's "fed" by the Write-Information cmdlet. I believe that the output of -Verbose and Write-Warning are also separate redirectable streams in PowerShell. Commented Jan 24 at 11:55
  • @KarlKnechtel - Consistency would be a Good Thing, yes; I don't particularly care either way whether it's -redirect or -redirection. Commented Jan 24 at 11:57
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    Stack Exchange should create the concept of a "disambiguation tag" where it lists all the possible more specific variants and when you try to use it, it asks you to choose one. Old questions with the tag could keep using the tag until edited. Commented Jan 24 at 12:59
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    Reminds me of disambiguation categories on English Wikipedia. Example: <en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Stamps>
    – andrybak
    Commented Jan 24 at 15:13
  • @StephenOstermiller that looks exactly like something that SE has said it will never do due performance constrains.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 24 at 15:28
  • It look like [io-redirection] may need its description changed if it's going to be used as described here. For instance, redirecting standard output to a file isn't covered by that description because it isn't "an input to another command".
    – AJM
    Commented Jan 24 at 16:23
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    @AJM - administrative detail; the question is whether this overall solution or some other proposal is to be implemented. It's good to note it, but I'm sure the admins who would implement it (if it is to be implemented) will dot all the I's and cross all the T's (or vice-versa, as indicated). Commented Jan 24 at 16:58
  • @JeffZeitlin If so, then I think it's probably time I gave the green tick to this answer. I'm not that familiar with meta, so is there any reason I can't mark this answer as accepted?
    – AJM
    Commented Jan 24 at 17:00
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    @AJM - I think the idea here is to let the admins decide; they have specialty tags such as under-review to indicate what the status of proposals such as this are. Meta works differently from the main stack; I'm admittedly not entirely clear on all the nuances. Commented Jan 24 at 17:03
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    @KarlKnechtel "I would say these tag names should consistently use -redirection instead of -redirect" - FWIW I strongly prefer the other way round: -redirect over -redirection. I'm curious why you would prefer -redirection here? Nearly all of these tags already use -redirect. io-redirection is the only one that doesn't. redirection (and url-redirection) are synonym(s) of redirect. (The only other tag on SO that uses "redirection" is the redirection-wordpress-plugin tag - in this case "Redirection" is the name of the product.)
    – MrWhite
    Commented Jan 24 at 18:48
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    @KarlKnechtel: I'm with MrWhite on this. When you talk about an HTTP 3xx response, you call it a "redirect", and that's the directive or keyword used in some mainstream server config files. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…). The Wikipedia article is titled "URL redirection" because its trying to sound formal in its description of the subject. [io-redirection] sounds good to me since the tag covers various ways to do it, like the dup2 system call, not just shell operators like >>. Hrm, how broad is [url-redirect] supposed to be? Commented Jan 24 at 21:42
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I merged [https-redirect] into , because there is no difference there.

is too large to merge into that same tag (via mod tooling). I have added for a Dev to come along and perform the merge.

EDIT: Staff has completed the synonym so the tag is now part of

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  • FWIW https-redirect and http-redirect are/were not the same thing. An https-redirect was generally used for an "HTTP to HTTPS redirect" (aka an "HTTPS redirect" - a specific type of http-redirect). However, I still don't think this warranted its own tag (and probably better served with two existing tags: http-redirect and https).
    – MrWhite
    Commented Jan 26 at 17:53

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