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Update on May 3rd, 2023: Thank you for all the comments and suggestions! We have collected your responses and have completed reviewing your suggestions for the survey.

It is that time of year again when we ask you all to be our second pair of eyes on the annual Developer Survey! Below you will find the technology choices we would like to include in the 2023 survey. If you notice any additional options that should be included, please post an answer below with the name, category, and a brief description or references to why it should be included in this year's survey.

We have also heard your feedback on the Loved, Dreaded, Wanted analysis. We’re going to experiment with different analyses for this, aiming to remove the emotional attribution while still examining the responses for "Worked With and Want to Work With”.

We value your input, I promise.  While we are reviewing your answers here, keep in mind we may not reply to them unless we need clarification.  Any suggestions will be considered, but we will not necessarily be honoring all suggestions. That being said, we are very excited to kick off the survey next month and look forward to hearing from you.

We will be collecting feedback until Friday, April 28, 2023.

Programming, scripting, and markup languages
Ada, Apex, APL, Assembly
Bash/Shell
C, C#, C++, Clojure, COBOL, Crystal, CSS
Dart, Delphi
Elixir, Erlang
F#, Fortran
GDScript, Go, Groovy
Haskell, HTML
Java, JavaScript, Julia
Kotlin
Lisp, Lua
MATLAB
Nim
Objective-C, OCaml
Perl, PHP, PowerShell, Prolog, Python
R, Raku, Ruby, Rust
SAS, Scala, Solidity, SQL, Swift
TypeScript
VB.NET, VBA
Zig
Database environments
BigQuery
Cassandra, ClickHouse, Cloud Firestore, CockroachDB, Cosmos DB, DBCouchbase, CouchDB
Datomic, DuckDB, DynamoDB
Elasticsearch
Firebase Realtime Database, Firebird
H2
IBM DB2, InfluxDB
MariaDB, Microsoft SQL Server, MongoDB, MySQL
Neo4j
Oracle
PostgreSQL
Redis
Snowflake, SQLite, Supabase
Cloud platforms
AWS
Cloudflare, Colocation
DigitalOcean
Firebase, Fly.io
Google Cloud
Heroku, Hetzner
IBM Cloud or Watson
Linode
Managed Hosting, Microsoft Azure
Netlify
OpenShift, OpenStack, Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, OVH
Scaleway
Vercel, VMware, Vultr
Web frameworks and technologies
Angular, AngularJS, ASP.NET, ASP.NET Core
Blazor
CodeIgniter
Deno, Django, Drupal
Elm, Express.js
FastAPI, Fastify, Flask
Gatsby
jQuery
Laravel, Lit
NestJS, Next.js, Node.js, Nuxt.js
Phoenix, Play Framework
React, Remix, Ruby on Rails
Solid.js, Spring Boot, Svelte, Symfony
Vue.js
WordPress
Other frameworks and libraries
.NET, .NET Maui
Apache Kafka, Apache Spark
Capacitor, Cordova
Electron
Flutter
GTK
Hadoop, Hugging Face Transformers
Ionic
Jax
Keras, Ktor
Maui, Micronaut
NumPy
OpenCV
Pandas
Qt, Quarkus
RabbitMQ, React Native
Scikit-learn, Spring Framework, SwiftUI
Tauri, TensorFlow, Tidyverse, Torch/PyTorch
Uno Platform
Xamarin
Developer tools Developer environments
Ansible Android Studio, Atom
Cargo, Chef BBEdit
PHP Composer CLion
Docker DataGrip
Flow Eclipse, Emacs
Godot, Godot Engine Fleet
Homebrew Geany, GoLand
Kubernetes Helix
Maven IntelliJ IDEA, IPython/Jupyter
Nix, Npm, NuGet Kakoune, Kate
Pip, Pnpm, Podman, Pulumi, Puppet Micro
Terraform Nano, Neovim, NetBeans, Notepad++, Nova
Unity 3D, Unreal Engine PhpStorm, PyCharm
Yarn Qt Creator
RAD Studio (Delphi, C++ Builder), Rider, RStudio, RubyMine
Spyder, Sublime Text
TextMate
Vim, Visual Studio, Visual Studio Code, VSCodium
WebStorm
Xcode
Operating systems
AIX, Android
BSD
Chrome OS, Cygwin
Haiku
iOS, iPadOS
Linux-based
macOS
Solaris
TempleOS
Ubuntu
Windows, Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL)
Collaboration tools
Adobe Workfront, Airtable, Asana, Azure DevOps
Basecamp
Cerri, Clickup, Confluence
DingTalk (Teambition), Document360, Doxygen
GitHub
Jira
Leankor, Linear
Markdown File, Microsoft Lists, Microsoft Planner, Miro, Monday.com
Notion, Nuclino
Planview Projectplace Or Clarizen
Redocly, Redmine
Shortcut, Smartsheet, Stack Overflow for Teams, Swit
Tettra, Trello
Wikis, Wimi, Workzone, Wrike
YouTrack
Communication tools
Cisco Webex Teams, Coolfire Core
Discord
Google Chat, Google Hangouts Meet
IRC
Jitsi
Matrix, Mattermost, Microsoft Teams
RingCentral, Rocket.Chat
Signal, Skype, Slack, Symphony
Telegram Messenger
Unify Circuit
WhatsApp, Wickr, Wire
Zoom, Zulip
AI search options AI development tools
Andi Adrenaline, AWS CodeWhisperer
Bing AI GitHub Copilot
ChatGPT Mintlify
Google Bard Replit Ghostwriter, Rubber Duck.AI
Metaphor Synk Code
Neeva AI Tabnine
Perplexity AI, Phind Whispr AI
Quora Poe
WolframAlpha
You.com
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  • Current count (revision 7): 320 items Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 10:09
  • This could be done by manually correcting them one by one, but this calls for automation. Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 10:15
  • Related (ambiguity of "Maui" / "MAUI" - "Multi-Adaptable User Interface"? "Multi-platform App UI"?): Move [maui] posts to [.net-maui], and force disambiguation on [maui] Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 15:43
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    "Symphony" is ambiguous. Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 18:20
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    Nice technical list. Still unsure why Prosus needs such extensive personal info on Developers. Where can I complain about the 2023 Developer Survey's list of personal questions (age, state/country of residence, etc.)? Commented Apr 22, 2023 at 9:24
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    Is Dagger significant enough to be included as a competitor to Docker / Podman?
    – tripleee
    Commented Apr 22, 2023 at 12:33
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    @jubilatious1, age and country of residence have been questions on the survey since the very beginning (2011- way before Prosus acquired Stack Overflow). see for yourself
    – starball
    Commented Apr 23, 2023 at 21:37
  • ....and....they're not optional. Commented Apr 24, 2023 at 2:37
  • What were the complaints about "Loved, Dreaded, Wanted"? It seems more informative to me than "Worked With/Want to Work With"
    – lofidevops
    Commented Apr 24, 2023 at 16:11
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    Actually, just noticed ya'll are finally dropping the "Loved, Dreaded, Wanted" choice - gotta give credit where credit's due - thanks for listening to the feedback! Those were really too emotionally charged (as well as useless from the standpoint of trying to ascertain the trends, mostly for the same reason).
    – 0Valt
    Commented Apr 24, 2023 at 16:15
  • 1) out of curiosity, should this be closed now, since the period for collecting feedback (which is the purpose of this post) has ended? 2) also, will there be any announcement about how exactly our feedback was taken into account?
    – starball
    Commented May 7, 2023 at 10:49
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    @user 1) nah, I'd not go for closing it - it's on-topic and can benefit from potential answers even if SE doesn't look at it anymore ("no longer reproducible" might be appropriate, but dunno if it's worth it); 2) judging from the previous years - not a chance there'll be one (although there will likely be an announcement of the survey going live which is when we usually learn of whether the suggestions were accepted. Good question, though, [1/2]
    – 0Valt
    Commented May 7, 2023 at 12:25
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    [2/2] I actually requested status tags on answers last year, and Jnat promised to do it this year, but as you can see, SE seems to have forgotten about it as usual.
    – 0Valt
    Commented May 7, 2023 at 12:26
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    Looks like it went live as the wrongly-cased "Intellij", not as "IntelliJ IDEA" shown in this list. Also "Maven (build tool)" instead of just "Maven".
    – M. Justin
    Commented May 8, 2023 at 19:57

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Out of curiosity, do query languages fit within the categories of "programming, scripting, and markup languages"? Or are they different? I.e. should that section be renamed to "Programming, scripting, query, and markup languages:"?

When you say "Bash/Shell", is "Shell" supposed to be a catch-all for shells like the Bourne Shell (sh), Zsh, C Shell, tcsh, Dash, Fish, etc.?

Why is Homebrew listed, but a bunch of other package managers aren't? Ex. APT, Chocolatey, pacman, etc.

Why was Git listed last year, but not listed this year (nor other version control software / source control management software? Ex. Apache Subversion (SVN), Mercurial)?

And why is GitHub listed under Collaboration Tools, but not other similar platforms like BitBucket and GitLab?

Why is Maven listed, but not Ant or Gradle?

Why no C/C++ buildsystem technologies? GNU Make, CMake, Ninja, Meson, build2, MSBuild, QMake, SCons. Some form of "what buildsystem tool alternative to CMake do you use" is a frequently rehashed question on r/cmake, so it'd be real nice to get data on this in a survey with as wide a reach as the SO dev survey. If this gets given its own category, I'd also like to see IDE-based "buildsystems" in it, such as Xcode, and Visual Studio Solutions.

I'm also interested to see what compilers C and C++ devs are supporting in their projects. Such a list would at the very least include GCC, LLVM's Clang, MSVC, and would do well to also include MinGW, Mingw-w64, Intel C++ Compiler, and some relatively newer blood like Circle.

I'm also curious about C++ testing libraries- of which some (I pulled the ones I know from the previous link) are: Boost.Test, Catch2, cppunit, doctest, Google Test (see the full list to avoid my bias).

In the same list where there is GTK and Qt, it would be nice to see other C++ GUI libraries, such as Dear ImGui, FLTK, and WxWidgets.

And how could I forget about C++ non-system package managers? Of which they include (but are not limited to): vcpkg, Conan, Spack, Hunter, and build2 (it's also a package manager).

It would be interesting to know about what C++ language versions people are using in their projects. The same question goes for C, ECMAScript (related: tsconfig's target field)

Under "Development Environments:"- no Code::Blocks?

It might be useful to take a look at how other people are conducting similar surveys, such as JetBrains: which does an overall survey, and then ecosystem specific ones.

I'm kind of interested in what state-management technologies people are using in their Flutter projects. I remember when I tried to dip my toes in Flutter, it was quite overwhelming to see the list and try to pick one. See https://docs.flutter.dev/development/data-and-backend/state-mgmt/options.

These highly language-specific technology categories can be conditionally made visible in the survey when the participant indicates that they are using the relevant contextual technology. Ex. Hide questions about C/C++ compilers if the participant hasn't selected that they use C++.

What about languages from the Hardware Description family? Ex. Verilog, System Verilog.

Other capitalization errors

(I may have missed some)

Under "Programming, scripting, and markup language:"

"Apl" -> "APL", "Gdscript" -> "GDScript", "Html/Css" -> "HTML/CSS" (and why are they together? I would have put them separately), "Javascript" -> "JavaScript" (calling @PeterMortenson just to bug them :P), "Matlab" -> "MATLAB", "Ocaml" -> "OCaml", "Php", "PHP", "Powershell" -> "PowerShell", "Typescript" -> "TypeScript" (again, calling @PeterMortenson), "Vb.Net" -> "VB.NET" (or "Visual Basic (.NET)"?).

Under "Databases environments:"

"Sqlite" -> "SQLite".

Under "Cloud Platforms:":

"Digitalocean" -> "Digital Ocean", "Openshift" -> "OpenShift", "Openstack" -> "OpenStack".

Under "Web Frameworks and Technologies:"

"ASP.Net" -> "ASP.NET", "ASP.Net Core" -> "ASP.NET Core", "Codeigniter" -> "CodeIgniter", "Fastapi" -> "FastAPI", "Jquery" -> "jQuery" (quite surprised nobody caught this one), "Nest.js" (why not "NestJS"?), "React.js" (why not "React"?), "Solid.js" (why not "SolidJS"?), "Wordpress", "WordPress".

Under "Other Frameworks and Libraries:"

".Net" -> ".NET", ".Net Maui" -> ".NET MAUI", "Jax" -> "JAX", (out of curiosity, what is "Maui", and how is it different than ".NET MAUI"?), "Rabbitmq" -> "RabbitMQ", "Swiftui" -> "SwiftUI", "Tensorflow" -> "TensorFlow", "Torch/Pytorch" -> "Torch/PyTorch".

Under "Developer Tools:"

"Npm" -> "npm", "Nuget" -> "NuGet", "Pnpm" -> "pnpm".

Under "Development Environments:"

"Bbedit" -> "BBEdit", "Clion" -> "CLion", "Datagrip" -> "DataGrip", "Ipython/Jupyter" -> "IPython/Jupyter", "Phpstorm" -> "PhpStorm", "Pycharm" -> "PyCharm", "Rstudio" -> "RStudio", "Rubymine", "RubyMine", "Textmate" -> "TextMate", "Vscodium" -> "VSCodium", "Webstorm" -> "WebStorm".

Under "Operating Systems:"

"Aix" -> "AIX", "Bsd" -> "BSD", "IpadOS" -> "iPadOS", "MacOS" -> "macOS", "Templeos" -> "TempleOS", "Windows Subsystem For Linux" -> "Windows Subsystem for Linux".

Under "Collaboration Tools:"

"Stack Overflow For Teams" -> "Stack Overflow for Teams" (... no comment), "Youtrack" -> "YouTrack"

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    "Why is Git listed, but not Apache Subversion (SVN)?" Similarly, what happened to all the local version control tools? Not every company might be crazy enough to upload their business secrets to a 3rd party cloud outside their control - I'm guessing the majority does not, but maybe I'm out of the loop...?
    – Lundin
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 6:53
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    Also interested in C++ linkers (GOLD, GNU ld, LLVM lld, MOLD, etc) Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 14:25
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    @Lundin You can host your own Git server though? Git is not tied to github and co. Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 14:27
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    "These highly language-specific technology categories can be conditionally made visible in the survey when the participant indicates that they are using the relevant contextual technology." So much of the survey is web-dev focused, I wish the questions about web frameworks could also be gated by an earlier question about fields that a participant works in.
    – irowe
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 15:17
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    Similarly, I would be very interested in the language version that is used, which is also a question per language
    – JVApen
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 16:35
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    So many of these would be very good additions. I'm especially extremely curious about the build system / package managers / test frameworks ones, since those are just incredibly valuable to have good information about.
    – Barry
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 17:41
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    I was also surprised by the missing Version controls, and as I only would add one other so seems silly to have a separate post, many of my students and peers (in certain distributed or VR based projects) are using Unity's PlasticSCM as their primary and Unity is included in this list so why not its SCM system? Actually an interesting data point to me, do we use Unity but not Plastic or Plastic but not Unity? Commented Apr 24, 2023 at 18:57
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Lots of naming errors, mostly capitalization issues:

  • "*.Js" -> "*.js"
  • "Netbeans" -> "NetBeans"
  • "Pycharm" -> "PyCharm"
  • "Vscodium" -> "VSCodium"
  • "Ipados" -> "iPadOS" ("Ipados" sounds like a Pokémon)

...okay, there are too many of these, I'm going to stop enumerating them specifically. With a small number of exceptions (ChromeOS), this looks like it's been run through something that capitalizes the first letter of each word and nothing else; that's going to be incorrect in quite a few cases.

Naming errors that aren't just capitalization issues:

  • "Intellij" -> "IntelliJ IDEA"
  • "Google Bard AI" -> "Google Bard"
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    ""Ipados" sounds like a Pokémon" - Now I'm expecting pokemon easter eggs in the survey :p Commented Apr 20, 2023 at 18:24
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    Ok I fixed the ones you listed out here. There's a lot of technology-specific naming convention nuance, I want to make sure I get it all correct.
    – Erin Asks Staff
    Commented Apr 20, 2023 at 18:39
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    @ErinAsks I had corrected the Pycharm stylizing last year and I corrected it again this year. Maybe it's better to reuse previous year listings that have already been copy-edited. I don't blame you in any way, there's so many possible stylings that no one person can get them all right without carefully looking up each word.
    – bad_coder
    Commented Apr 20, 2023 at 20:31
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    "...okay, there are too many of these, I'm going to stop enumerating them specifically." don't worry. I gotchu
    – starball
    Commented Apr 20, 2023 at 22:11
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    @ErinAsks To add even more nuance to the mess that is JS. AngularJS is AngularJS and not Angular.js :-) Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 0:20
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    @ErinAsks as user points out in their answer, "IpadOS" is still mis-capitalized; it should be "iPadOS".
    – Ryan M Mod
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 1:21
  • for the uninitiated reading @Zoe's comment, I assume it's a reference to jokes of this variety
    – starball
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 20:27
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    No, it was mostly in the same chain as "can you exit vim?" and other fun questions from previous years. Real shame those were axed Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 20:57
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A recurring problem with this survey is that it doesn't cover embedded systems. If you look at last year's survey, 6.4% of the SO user base work with embedded systems. A minority, sure, but it also means that most of this survey is irrelevant to 6.4% of the target audience and that will reflect on the relevance of the survey as whole.

The tool chain for embedded development looks very different and I'm completely clueless about what a lot of the tools listed are for - you might as well ask a plumber if they use these tools. There are lots of niche IDEs, compilers and debuggers (and oscilloscopes) which are well-known in the embedded branch.

It would seem that the options are to either exclude embedded systems from the survey or expand the survey to cover embedded systems. Or perhaps make a separate survey regarding embedded systems, perhaps below https://electronics.stackexchange.com where it might fit in better.

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    A minority maybe, but that was also the essence of the most upvoted Answer/Post (+93) in last year's (2022) Review by @CodyGray... // Web-Automation is also completely missing from the Survey, like every year...
    – chivracq
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 10:14
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    @chivracq Ah yeah now that you mention it, I remember that. +93 is quite significant as meta goes.
    – Lundin
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 10:16
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    "A minority, sure, but it also means that most of this survey is irrelevant to 6.4% of the target audience" - might be a minority, but at 6.4%, it's pretty significant. It's not like there's a couple users being discarded here; it's at least 4000 (based on last year's 70000 responses) Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 21:01
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    The minority might be actually larger than that. I personally know developers who didn't took the survey because it wasn't appealing to them.
    – Jorenar
    Commented Apr 22, 2023 at 13:06
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Developer Tools

Please add options for bundle/build tools. Webpack is the most well-known option, but it'd be interesting to see current usage and future trends vs other options.

Here are the ones I've encountered, along with a couple relatively newer ones from @user and @Samathingamajig (ordered by GitHub stars):

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    I'm surprised Vite isn't on here (the existing survey) already. See also: Bun, has ~41k stars Commented Apr 23, 2023 at 21:58
  • @Samathingamajig Yeah, I was also surprised this subcategory was missing. I saw your post about Bun (which gave me the idea of adding star counts), but I'm not familiar with Bun. Do you think Bun also fits in this group of build tools? I see it includes a bundler, but I don't know if it's an independent bundler that can be used for arbitrary projects.
    – tdy
    Commented Apr 24, 2023 at 20:05
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    Bun is unique. It has all those other features I mentioned, but it can also be used just for the bundler. I'm 99% the bundler was the original project ("bun-"dler) and then grew significantly since then. Commented Apr 24, 2023 at 21:54
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There's three (major) flavors of .NET nowadays:

  • .NET Framework (1.0-4.8), basically on life support forever.
  • .NET Core (1.0-3.1), being entirely out of support.
  • .NET 5 (out of support), 6 (Long-Time Support), 7 (Short-Time Support), 8 (preview). The next hot thing.

It would be interesting to see which of those three are still actively being developed in/for/against. In other words: I'd like to see the options:

  • .NET Framework (optionally suffixed "1.0-4.8")
  • .NET Core (optionally suffixed "1.0-3.1")
  • .NET (optionally suffixed "5+")

I wouldn't like conflating them all under ".NET" (and definitely not ".Net"), which is akin to calling all Angular/AngularJS development just "Angular".

However, plenty of users of .NET don't know what to name what they're using. There is no such thing as .NET Core 5/6/7, but you'd be surprised at the amount of developers who call it that.

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Add "Bun" to "Web frameworks and technologies".

Bun is a JavaScript runtime like NodeJS and Deno. Instead of the V8 engine that NodeJS and Deno use, Bun uses JavaScriptCore (which powers Webkit/Safari).

They have impressive benchmarks, but also have cool features such as built-in TypeScript & JSX support, ESM & CommonJS compatibility, implementation of Web-standard APIs, and compatibility with NodeJS. It also has a built-in package manager, transpiler, bundler, and script/test runner

Bun has 40.7k stars on GitHub at the time of writing this (Deno has 89k), so this isn't just some random project, it's actually used by several thousand developers.

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Render in the Cloud Platforms category.

I work at Render.

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    Would you like to disclose affiliation?
    – khelwood
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 19:50
  • I edited the post.
    – anurag
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 20:01
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    Why doesn't it have a Wikipedia entry? Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 20:28
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    Is that a requisite? fly.io doesn't have one that I can find, but is already included in the list. Disclaimer: also work at Render
    – Strifey
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 22:16
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Since I still do not have an answer and it is still relevant, I will just repost this:

Flow

Is it this Flow? The static type checker that compiles to JavaScript? If so, it is a direct competitor to TypeScript. Yes, TS does a few more things but it does not make a lot of sense to have them listed under different places. TS is listed under "Programming, scripting, and markup language".

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  1. Clarification:

    • What is DBCouchbase here? Is it Couchbase Server or Couch DB? Surely, not both?
  2. Minor name correction:

    • DBCosmos -> Cosmos DB
  3. Suggestion:

    • RavenDB is missing from Database environments imo.
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Consider adding VB6 to the list of programming languages.

People claim that VB6 is still widely used and certainly there is a constant stream (trickle more than a torrent) of questions from what looks like new programmers to the language. Having this included on surveys would yield a much more objective picture of the trend for this language, perhaps coupled with some understanding of what motivates new developers / new development in a ~25-year-old frozen/dead language.

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    Re "what motivates new developers": Old text books? An account Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 18:23
  • Strictly speaking, VB6 is a native compiler and forms engine wrapped around the VBA language, which is very much alive as Microsoft still hasn't replaced it as the scripting language for Excel.
    – Craig
    Commented May 5, 2023 at 18:46
  • VBA is already on the list, and should remain a separate choice for the reasons you mentioned. Commented May 5, 2023 at 18:48
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Nitpick, but Ubuntu, Chrome OS, and (in some sense) WSL are Linux-based operating systems. (There may be others on the list that I missed; I picked these out just by quick glance.) Perhaps the general Linux should be "Other Linux-based"?

I would be interested in including at least Debian and CentOS / Fedora / Red Hat (separately or as a lump?) as well; these are almost certainly used in professional environments as much as Ubuntu, or more. Arch is popular on the desktop among sophisticated users, but then so are Gentoo, Mint, Slackware, etc.

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    Indeed, WSL is essentially a more tightly integrated virtual machine
    – Jorenar
    Commented Apr 22, 2023 at 12:57
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    Arch, Red Hat, Debian and Fedora really need to be on the list.
    – Jorenar
    Commented Apr 22, 2023 at 13:00
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    In fact, "Debian based (except Ubuntu based)", "Ubuntu based", "slackware based" and "Red Hat based" would make for interesting data-points too
    – Jorenar
    Commented Apr 23, 2023 at 19:05
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Add "conda" to the "Developer Tools" category.

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Clarify if "Maven" just refers to the tool, or also the repository format

"Maven" could refer to the Maven build tool itself, or the Maven artifact repository format that it shares with other tools like Gradle. As a user of only Gradle, but who gets Gradle dependencies from Maven repositories, I'm not sure if I should select that one or not. It might be worth clarifying that.

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Should continuous integration & test automation tools appear on this list?

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An additional candidate for Other frameworks and libraries might be Polars, a relatively new but promising dataframe/series framework. It's relevant at least for Rust and Python, further Node.js and R, and has a DuckDB interface. (Already almost 17k GitHub-stars.)

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What about Microsoft Access for database environments? Will likely make the others look good due to an instant dreaded win (or whatever comes to replace that).

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    Excel also should be included somewhere if we are also including things like "collaboration tools" and "AI tools" which don't involve any programming these days (just "give ChatGPT a prompt and complain when the code doesn't work"), since programmers probably use it a bunch for all sorts of things. Or at the very least the Microsoft VBA Editor, since the VBA language is listed under programming languages. I mean, we also allow questions about Excel formula writing here...
    – TylerH
    Commented Apr 21, 2023 at 13:38
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It would be nice to have Solr added as a database, or Lucene, which it's built on.

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  • Lucene isn't a database, it's a text indexing library.
    – OrangeDog
    Commented May 13, 2023 at 22:15
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Is there any particular reason both Godot and Godot Engine are present in developer tools? I'd think one would be enough

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For Databases, TiDB should be included. It's the most popular database (open source or not) in the Asia Pacific region, and rapidly growing in North America and Europe, because of its strong answer to SQL scale and analytics.

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Suggestion: Add "Wasmer" to "Developer tools".

Wasmer is the most popular WebAssembly server-side runtime. It allows running any program anywhere (such as the Python container running universally in the browser, or the server). Some people already see Wasmer as the logical evolution of Docker.

Wasmer also has a built-in package manager, (WAPM). Is being used by thousands of developers worldwide, and by companies such as Cloudflare, Vercel, Google, Apple and more.

WebAssembly is becoming increasingly popular for edge computing, CDNs, and Web 3.0... so I think it could make sense to include Wasmer in the 2023 survey!

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It's not clear to me if the intent is to be exhaustive, mention hidden gems, or something else. For example, the specific inclusion of TempleOS is puzzling considering a heap of distros are lumped together as "Linux-based". In any event, here are some suggestions, I hope they help!

Programming, scripting, and markup languages

Web frameworks and technologies

Developer tools

Depending on what you're measuring, it might be informative to list the following in addition to pip (they all use pip underneath):

Collaboration tools

In general, it would be interesting to know how many people use in-house and/or self-hosted tools rather than SaaS.

Continuous integration

See Seth's post

Other frameworks and libraries

Not sure where to put these

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I am interested in the language or framework versions used, especially where breaking changes were introduced or the old version still appears in recent Stack Overflow questions.

This could be an optional additional field, only to be interpreted and visualized where there are significant differences.

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I might suggest Sinatra as a web framework. It's the second most popular Ruby web framework, behind Ruby on Rails, with over 11,000 GitHub stars.

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Can we split IPython/Jupyter (Development environments category):

  1. Separate out the "IPython" bit. It has been over 8 years since IPython became the Project Jupyter (The big split). The meaning of IPython has changed since (it is no longer associated with notebooks per se, although .ipynb extension lingers on). IPython is a a great tool but grouping it together with Jupyter makes less sense nowadays than it used to.
  2. Use "Jupyter Notebook" (with capital N). Jupyter is just a name of the project/set of standards rather than of an IDE. Many editors (VSCode, PyCharm) provide support for Jupyter toolset but are distinct IDEs.
  3. Add "JupyterLab". JupyterLab is the new interface for Jupyter notebooks; it uses the same backend as the "classic" Jupyter Notebooks but the UX and capabilities are very much different (in the same way as Visual Studio Code and Visual Studio are distinct). If it would be too many options, make it just "Jupyter Notebook/JupyterLab" (but then, by analogy to Visual Studio Code/Visual Studio, it would make sense to split it as well).
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  • Ah, I saw this post too late :(
    – krassowski
    Commented Apr 29, 2023 at 16:20
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I think that the section about other frameworks can include the Eclipse Modeling Framework (EMF). A popular Java-based framework to deal with models and Model-Driven Engineering.

It's not in the hype as it was some years ago, but it could be interesting to see how people are dealing with it these days in the SO survey. Especially considering the code generation and code-assistance advance in the last few months. How does it compare with a more mature (👴) solution that intends the same result?

It's mostly Java-driven, but it could be agnostic with some Python implementations, for example, so it fits nicely in the "Other frameworks" session.

For relevance, the SO tag is not so popular but active. I guess the EMF community is not so present at SO, but it'll be interesting to check if it's true.

References: Official website Wikipedia

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I thought everything was already mentioned, except some unpopular tags, but then I saw Prolog and Fortran under Programing languages, and also lit and tidyverse (I don't know what this is) under Other frameworks and libraries.

Personally, I think that lists this year are too long for anyone to scroll (surely no one will read everything) and I don't think it's bad. Based on tag popularity, I think OpenGL and CUDA should be included under Other frameworks and libraries. Both are well known and more active tags than some tags I mentioned (I was surprised to find out that tidyverse is more active this year than OpenGL). Maybe also Vulkan, WebGL and OpenMP for comparison (but not very active).

I would like to see more technologies used for parallel programming, but I don't know many languages and frameworks. Maybe Chappel, MPI and OpenCL, but I don't think they are popular.

My only concern with Prolog (and other technologies rarely used, and rarely seen in surveys) is that the list of languages is very long, so maybe the person who is still using it will not expect to see it in the survey.

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    Tidyverse is an opensource package set/framework used within the R-programming language: tidyverse.org Commented Apr 28, 2023 at 19:33
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Deno Deploy in the Cloud Platforms category.

Deno Deploy is a globally distributed serverless JavaScript hosting platform. Developers can deploy and run JS at the edge with zero config.

Disclosure: I work at Deno!

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JSF (Jakarta Server Faces or JavaServer Faces, as it was called before) is still a relevant web framework used mainly in larger companies.

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  • Wikipedia claims it is now "Jakarta Faces", without "Server" (not necessarily correct; and it is currently internally inconsistent, unless they kept the abbr. "JSF" (not "JF")). Why do they keep changing the name? Is it tainted in some way? Commented May 3, 2023 at 12:00
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    @PeterMortensen Oracle "released" all the Java Enterprise technologies to be community-supported, but enforced its trademark on the name Java. The Eclipse Foundation was forced to rename everything (including the javax root package) and chose Jakarta, the largest city in Java, so at least all the acronyms could still use "J".
    – OrangeDog
    Commented May 13, 2023 at 22:21
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I know it's too late for this year, but I wanted to comment on "Worked With and Want to Work With". Worked With is fairly clear, but Want to Work With... There are languages/frameworks/etc that I would like to try out for myself because I find something interesting about them, and there are those that I have to use at work. There's certainly some overlap there, but they also aren't identical, at all. I answered the survey by checking Want to Work With for anything that's in the union of those two sets, but it seems like that loses some information.

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I'd love to see Qwik included under Web frameworks and technologies

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