Moderator note: This will be left up for a time while we debate a larger rule change. Do not take this as approval of the personal mentions of activity below (personal attack comments have been deleted). Unfortunately, more posts like this will be necessary to discuss how to treat individual posts in a delete/undelete cycle if rules do not change.
Well, here we are again folks, with IBAN Regex Template? a similar style war with the common users from How should this specific regex question close-reopen war end?.
Here is the Timeline.
This time, @RavinderSingh13 managed to speed-post a regex answer (using a provably incorrect pattern, according to the OP's requirements) in just 3 minutes (hardly enough time to search SO to see if the question was a duplicate).
Then @NigelRen appropriately hammered the page closed with a canon that contains the sought/required pattern in two answers.
/^[A-Z]{2}[0-9]{2}[A-Z0-9]{1,30}$/
...for those who cannot read regex: the full length string must contain only -- 2 letters, then 2 digits, then 1 to 30 occurrences of digits or letters.
Okay, this pattern isn't literally case sensitive, but the new OP understands the i
flag and the answer in the canon is preparing the string by converting it to all uppercase.
It is a canonical page that is VERY easy to find by title alone. I mean what words would you search with?!? Validate IBAN PHP
Don't like this one? There is another canon too for javascript. There is a regex canon too that has a simple regex in the comment under the question.
Thank goodness we have canons to prevent 10's of individual IBAN questions for each individual region.
Nope, not good enough, it seems. @RavinderSingh13 voted to reopen, then @anubhava used his gold php badge to un-hammer the page back open!
Then the next day, @AdrianMole voted to re-close the question with the same duplicate, and @oguzismail and I voted to close the question as Unclear. Resulting in an Unclear closure. I find this fair because the OP didn't specify which region they were catering for -- it was literally missing vital details.
After a good 7 days of being closed, @oguzismail, @mck, and I voted to delete the page. Why should this Unclear page be removed for Stack Overflow?
- the question was under-researched and Unclear
- perhaps more importantly, the answer was provably incorrect/misleading and the upvotes on the bad answer were only going to confuse researchers
- there is NOTHING stopping @RavinderSingh13 from posting an answer on the canon if he thinks that something needs to be added
Furthermore, to properly validate an IBAN string, you need to perform mathematical operations -- which regex alone is not suited for. Basically the whole page was flawed from the start -- the OP did not fully understand the task and therefore asked for half of a solution.
This is wasting the time of content curators. I should be spending my time with my family and/or sleeping -- not writing meta posts about the same recurring problem. So what do I want to know?
- What can be done to change the behavior of the same knowledgeable regex-tag contributors who refuse to close what should be closed and persistently re-open/un-delete content that should stay closed/deleted?
- If these
teammateslike-minded users refuse to modify their behaviors to put content curation before their own rep gain, what is Stack Overflow or SO Mods willing to do to address this situation?
I am not talking about users that make an erroneous decisions from time to time. I am talking about users that are biased against closing and deleting AND deliberatly/proactively take steps to reopen, un-delete, and upvote so that content stays on SO instead of being Roomba'ed.
At the point of posting this meta-question, there are 2 un-delete votes on the page, so I foresee more unnecessary warring.
p.s. I don't often swim in the sql tag pool, but I am told that that space also suffers from the same scenario.
information which folks were asking is additional information, which could be given by OP. I have no issues in closing it as a dupe but since OP didn't confirm anything on it, why don't we give benefit of doubt to the question.
I believe you missed my point here(let me rephrase in case I was not clear), what I meant was, if OP gives/adds information on what was asked and then if we see its near to canonical answer(which I don't think in this specific case) we could make it dupe. Thank you.n
solutions to the same general questions. Can you say that you bothered to look for a duplicate before answering? Or did you just slam that answer in? This is 2021. 99% of all sufficiently narrow questions are duplicates and have been for years. This is an inevitable product of feverish Q&A involving millions of people for more than a decade. If the canon needs help, help the canon.