Pretty much everything with possibly-high counts (rep, question views) is nicely formatted with thousands separators, but the counts displayed when adding tags aren't.
2 Answers
In agreement with @Sinatr, I feel that the exact number of questions tagged with a particular tag is not meaningful, only the order of magnitude is. It's probably wrong all the time due to caching anyway.
As a result, I would follow their suggestion: simply use the abbreviation already used for scores: 17.5k
, 725k
, 1.3M
, ...
It could also benefit from the rounding that "short scores" get, as well.
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24Am I the only one who considers
1,234,567
more readable (to feel the number), than1.23M
?– VisioNCommented Apr 5, 2019 at 15:10 -
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2@VisioN From a UX perspective, displaying multiple large numbers can quickly lead to people simply glazing over and not paying attention to any of the numbers, similar to a wall of text, or a paragraph with every other word bolded. In this case, where we want the author to be focusing more on the name of the tag, and then using the popularity of the tag to get a feel for if it's the correct tag, it makes a bit more sense to have less emphasis on the numbers. Right now the C# tag currently has more display space allocated to the number of posts, than the tag name itself.– RToyoCommented Apr 5, 2019 at 15:38
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2@VisioN: Please propose this as an answer, so it is more visible, and can compete with mine. Thinking on it, I also think that
1,234,567
is also more universal, stack exchange sites other than programming/engineering may find it more human friendly. Commented Apr 5, 2019 at 15:38 -
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2@Stargateur Better
0x12d687
, but we can shorten it to12d687
.– VisioNCommented Apr 5, 2019 at 16:13 -
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1And PLEASE, do NOT use "m" for million. Use "M" as in mega instead.– kluttCommented Apr 7, 2019 at 21:22
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Following suggestion from Matthieu, I'm posting my thoughts below.
I think keeping properly formatted numbers (e.g. 1,234,567
) makes more sense than introducing short equivalents (like 1.23M
), especially in places where we don't need to win much screen space.
1,234,567
format is good from many perspectives, where the main is readability. I am coming not only from the visual feeling of a number, but also from the fact that it may potentially be more user friendly for non-technical people (I consider this change for SE platform, rather than for SO only).
As an example, quite often my eyes don't get the difference between 123
and 123k
in user's reputation, while subconsciously I can clearly see the difference between 123
and 123,456
.
Regarding the formatting (separators, grouping, etc), I'd vote for browser locale and/or user preferences.
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3Why would non-technical people find it more readable to display higher precision in numbers? If anything, it seems order of magnitude displays would be better for non-technical folks. (And everyone else, in this case, for the reasons Matthieu points out.)– Cody Gray ModCommented Apr 5, 2019 at 20:21
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@CodyGray: I wonder if non-technical people could get confused with the abbreviations. In programming, we are used to kB, MB, etc... however outside you rarely see prices mentioned as $12k for a car, it's more likely spelled out as $12,000. Commented Apr 6, 2019 at 17:40
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2@MatthieuM. I don't think "non-technical people" are illiterate. I struggle to think who would be confused for very long if they see "113k", like, for example, the repotation count of VisioN here. Or if somebody truly finds the concept impossible to grasp, would they even be visiting Stack Exchange? Also, I've seen a lot of people talk about money in the form of $12k. It's not usually official (as in, in an ad or job listing) but it seems fairly common for people to discuss sums of money in "k" or even "mil". Even "non-technical" people.– VLAZCommented Apr 7, 2019 at 12:17
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1@MatthieuM. "In programming, we are used to kB, MB, etc.." where we should use ko, Mo, etc... ^^ Commented Apr 7, 2019 at 14:37
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Stack Overflow is intended to be a site by experts for experts in the field of programming. We can very safely assume that people who don't understand "1.23M" are not targeted by this site. If you're also talking about other SE-sites you may have a point, but I still believe that the problem with people not understanding those prefixes are very minor. And being able to choose this on user level has very little value compared to the cost of writing the code and maintaining it.– kluttCommented Apr 7, 2019 at 21:16
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@MatthieuM. You don't see prices like $12k in an ad, but it is fairly common to write like that when chatting casually.– kluttCommented Apr 7, 2019 at 21:18
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2There's a reason the
--human-readable
argument for thedf
anddu
commands in unices changes numerical outputs to "27G", "484M", etc. Also, often the reason you don't see $12k in an advertisement is because advertisers insist on using silly tricks like writing $11,950 to try and make you forget you're spending almost 12 grand on something.– jmbpianoCommented Apr 7, 2019 at 22:07 -
@Broman According to our tour page: Stack Overflow is a question and answer site for professional and enthusiast programmers. (emphasis mine). I think that leaves room for non-experts, and if it doesn't, we definitely need to redirect people who click the I need help with a homework problem option in the ask question wizard.– MiriamCommented Apr 7, 2019 at 22:35
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2@Broman: I was seeing this as a potentially more general (whole Stack Exchange) improvement; if specific to Stack Overflow I would hope that everyone groks the use of k/M/G indeed. Commented Apr 8, 2019 at 6:44
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2@ArtemisFowl True, but I still think it's reasonable to expect people to understand "1.23M"– kluttCommented Apr 8, 2019 at 7:47
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@Broman I agree with Matthieu here. I was also considering that mostly as a Stack Exchange improvement, as to me it doesn't make sense applying this logic to technical platforms only. And yes, the vast majority of people should understand magnitude displays, however my accent was mainly about general readability, e.g. quite often my eyes don't get the difference between
123
and123k
in user's reputation, when subconsciously I can clearly see the difference between123
and123,456
.– VisioNCommented Apr 8, 2019 at 8:58 -
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@Broman I've updated my answer to send my message more clear.– VisioNCommented Apr 8, 2019 at 9:29
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@Broman I agree, just wanted to point out that we're not all experts here.– MiriamCommented Apr 8, 2019 at 10:56
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"123 k" is the proper way to spell it (according to the SI standard), not "123k". I think the added space makes it more readable. And "k", "M", "G" prefixes are not limited to computer people at all, even though computer speak have made them even more widely-known (people choose internet speeds in Mb or Gb, computers with GB and TB memory, etc.) Commented Apr 8, 2019 at 23:27
17.5k
currently): forC#
it would be1.3M
. Good/bad ? Tooltip can show exact number and yes: with thousand separators pleases.1'000'000
.