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I'm not a Java programmer, but is an answer such as this, taken from the First Posts queue, guaranteed to be inadequate (link)?

You should annotate your repository with @Repository annotation

I sure wouldn't upvote such an answer, given it has precious little explanation. But, equally, it could be a valid solution to a question which is raising an exception. Should I be learning Java to find out whether using @Repository annotation fixes the problem?

On the other hand, my flag for the below "Not an answer" was declined. Which made me feel as though I shouldn't be exercising any technical judgement when assessing an answer.

u are using python 3.6 . so pip3 install numpy should be used, make a try .

So this leaves me confused. Thoughts / advice?

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    That post shouldn't have been deleted as a Low Quality Post, I undeleted that post now.
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Jul 23, 2018 at 23:29
  • @BhargavRao, Thank you. I was just coming off a ban and I was (trying to be) extra careful. Since this was the first one I "failed", could my ban be reviewed?
    – jpp
    Commented Jul 23, 2018 at 23:34
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    The ban seems like it's based on a history of audit failures, so I am not sure about lifting it directly. I'll review your history once I am back home, and then let you know.
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Jul 23, 2018 at 23:35
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    @BhargavRao, For this ban just initiated that's not technically accurate. I haven't failed a single review since I served my time until this one (which shouldn't have been a fail). Seems a shame really if I have to wait twice as long now for doing something right. But your / mods' choice.
    – jpp
    Commented Jul 23, 2018 at 23:36
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    Yeah, looks like people were doing it wrong again in the LQP
    – Machavity Mod
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 3:20
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    Cool, I unbanned you from the reviews, given that it was the first audit that you received after coming out of a ban. Just one chance, please make sure that I don't regret my decision :-)
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 6:27
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    related: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/366027/… still not getting used to it. Flagged 2 turd posts and flags got declined. Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 7:50
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    The current "not an answer" "rationale" on SO is semantic bulls**t that exists solely to ease the workload on moderators. A better solution would be to have more moderators, but why would SO management never choose the best option when they could rather have that sweet sweet SEO juice?
    – Ian Kemp
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 8:07
  • @BhargavRao This wasn't a review in LQP. They weren't being asked to determine if the post was NAA or not, they were being asked to determine if there were any problems with the post that they as a reviewer could identify or help the author fix. They did identify the fact that the post was problematic, and wasn't a useful answer, but said that the post required no action anyway. That merits a review ban. Just because some other users also deleted a post that required different moderation actions doesn't make this review any more correct.
    – Servy
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:26
  • @IanKemp That's just strictly false. You just can't have moderators being the judge of the technical merits of the quality of every single answer on the site. It goes well beyond just needing a few more moderators. There are maybe a hundred non-answers a day posted to the site. There are many thousands of answers that at least some people feel are not good answers posted to the site. You'd need an order of magnitude, at least more moderators to even look at all of those posts.
    – Servy
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:32
  • Additionally, we want the quality of answers judged by the community of people that are experts in that subject evaluating the quality of answers. We don't want a single moderator, who very likely is not an expert in the subject, and who may not even have a passing familiarity with the subject, being the sole judge of how good the answer is. They're simply going to get it wrong. A lot. Anyone would if asked to do that. It can't be done (well), even if you had a thousand mods. As much as you'd like to abdicate the responsibility of judging the quality of answers, you can't.
    – Servy
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:32
  • @Servy, Where do you get this from: They did identify the fact that the post was problematic? If the answer happened to be correct, it's just sparse rather than problematic. The problem is I'm not a subject matter expert, I can't opine on accuracy.
    – jpp
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:36
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    @jpp Answers can be problematic for reasons other than just their accuracy. You've identified some of the reasons it's problematic here. You just choose to do nothing about them and specifically mark the review as having nothing at all that can be done for it. The queue doesn't exist to just judge the technical accuracy of answers.
    – Servy
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:38
  • You've identified some of the reasons it's problematic here. Nope, haven't done that either. Sorry.
    – jpp
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:39
  • @Servy Which suggests that NAA flags - and indeed, flags on answers in general - should not be handled by moderators, but within the current framework of the review queue system. To put it bluntly, raising a flag should be an exceptional circumstance not a common occurrence as it currently is, and SO/SE seem unwilling to change that; one has to wonder why. (Hint: deleted answers don't harvest SEO juice).
    – Ian Kemp
    Commented Jul 26, 2018 at 9:32

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There's a nuance or two here related to how Spring is wiring in the component, but there's also a missing annotation on the class which declares @SpringBootApplication. At best, this is a duplicate, since the exception is not only descriptive but also has existing answers on the site.

It would've been better for you to skip it since you're not 100% sure on Java.

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    I don't deny any of your comments. But (as far as I know) duplicate answers should just be downvoted (if they aren't useful) rather than marked for deletion. My understanding is these reviews aren't meant to be based on subject matter knowledge (cf. many other Metas based on mod flags). If I should be skipping because they are, I'll probably stop reviewing, as otherwise I'll have to skip 80% of reviews.
    – jpp
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 1:03
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    Two things: if the answer is poor, then it should be downvoted. Also, I'd prefer a scenario in which one skips 80% of reviews because they're unsure over a scenario in which they're guessing for 80% of reviews.
    – Makoto
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 1:11
  • @jpp It sounds like you were in the first post review queue, right? If so, I think it's perfectly reasonable that you might have to skip reviews due to lack of subject matter knowledge. The cases when (some people say) you shouldn't usually have to rely on subject matter knowledge are "not an answer" or "very low quality"
    – David Z
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 2:56
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    @DavidZ, IMO, I fear we are getting into murky territory when reviews are conflated with correctness. From everything I've seen, voting is for usefulness [or your perception of correctness], while reviewing is for moderation (closure, deletion). If correctness is a condition for reviewing, even moderators can't claim to get it right because it requires subject matter expertise which they may not have.
    – jpp
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 3:09
  • @jpp Yes, I completely agree that correctness should not be a condition for reviewing (or for other moderation tasks). That's why I deliberately did not mention anything about correctness in my comment.
    – David Z
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 3:12
  • @jpp If you think that the answer isn't useful and should have been downvoted then why didn't you downvote the answer? You said that the answer required no action at all. Sure, the answer isn't NAA, and you were correct to not flag it as such, but the answer was still problematic, and did still require action. And you said it requires no action. Which is wrong, because it did. So your review failure was entirely correct. And saying you should have skipped is equally wrong because you knew the answer was problematic and required action, you just didn't take any even so.
    – Servy
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:24
  • @Servy, Sorry, I think there's been a misunderstanding. You say If you think that the answer isn't useful, but nowhere have I said I think it's a bad answer. In my opinion, it's just not upvote-worthy. There are plenty of one-liners which solve problems which I don't downvote. If the answer really was so simple, and it helped thousands of people, it could garner upvotes (just not from me, who likes to understand a solution)!
    – jpp
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:32
  • @jpp You've acknowledged that it's poorly explained and duplicating other content. Votes are there to indicate the usefulness of an answer, not just their technical correctness. Answers that aren't useful are problematic, and those problems should be addressed, regardless of the technical correctness of the post. And even if you think that the problems aren't severe enough to downvote the post (which I'd question) you should still be trying to help the author address them, through edits and/or comments. You choose to just ignore the problems.
    – Servy
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:37
  • @Servy, We've got wires crossed. I never admitted it's a duplicate (even now, I haven't done a search; for me, that's not the point of reviews), nor do I think it's poorly explained. It's just not explained, like many very highly but immensely useful one-line answers.
    – jpp
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:38
  • @jpp Then why bring it up if you don't think it was a problem with the post at all and not something to address?
    – Servy
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:41
  • My query is whether we should be judging technical accuracy / correctness in reviews. And, if not, the one-line answer should not be deleted.
    – jpp
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 13:45
  • @jpp: Technical accuracy aside, do you think that the answer is particularly useful? This heuristic gives you one of three options: yes, no, or I don't know. If you think it's useful, you'd have upvoted it. If you didn't think it was useful, you'd have downvoted it. If you didn't know, you'd have skipped it. Again, it's fine if you wind up skipping a ton of these.
    – Makoto
    Commented Jul 24, 2018 at 15:01

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