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In connection with the fifth anniversary of Aaron Swartz's death, there is a discussion on Hacker News that goes like this:

codeulike says:

This StackOverflow question from Aaron about using rsync to download and copy lots of files is like a piece of history frozen in time. keep rsync from removing unfinished source files.

meagar says:

Please remember that Stack Overflow does not welcome any kind of meta commentary about a question's author in that question's comments or answers.

switch007 says:

And of course someone added a revision just now, for some minor style tweaks.

klez says:

Also, the editor is a SO moderator

Here is the edit in question.

I think all of the above raises important questions:

  • Should questions or answers be locked when a person dies?
  • Should there be some sort of status indicator beside the name of a dead user?

I propose this solution:

  • When a user dies, other users on the site should be able to mark the user as potentially gone. This could be done with a form where options could be: "I know this person is dead", "I believe this person is gone", "I know this person will not come back to Stackoverflow", but the status set on the user would still be potentially gone.
  • The potentially gone status is hidden to everyone but users that are moderators. Or it could be visible to users that have a certain amount of points.
  • A moderator should be able to remove the potentially gone status.
  • If the user has not logged in after two years, and the user has been marked as potentially gone, the account is marked as historical.
  • Accounts that are marked as historical have a little clock right next to the username. If the clock is clicked, a short explanation that the user appears to be gone shows up. There is no need to go into details for why the user is gone, there is no need to claim that the person is dead or not.

To sum it up, these are the two new user statuses I propose:

  • potentially gone
  • historical

And posts from historical users should not be editable.

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    And I thought the focus of this site is on Q&A and not so much on users...
    – honk
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:47
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    Uber-harassment: declare user dead ...
    – rene
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:48
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    What benefit would this have? Stack Overflow is not a social network. It's about content more than it is about its users. Posts are editable so they can be improved and updated; why should that change through the death of their original author, and why would it matter whether they are dead (extremely rare at this moment, due to the site's users' average age) or just otherwise gone from the site (far more widespread)?
    – Pekka
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:49
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    I appreciate the motive here, this is something very sweet that you're trying to do for someone. But I don't agree with Questions/Answers being locked, we still need to be able to update and amend questions, regardless of the metaphysical presence of their original poster. Also, being able to declare other users as deceased would cause no end of spam and trouble for those who have to review these. Plus the possibility of living users being marked as dead etc. Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:49
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    There are potentially very valid edits that should/could be made to posts by users who are no longer with us or participating on the site. Stopping those doesn't benefit Stack Overflow or future users in any way.
    – Taryn StaffMod
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:50
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    one benefit would be to know if you could expect to get an answer from that user, ever You already don't have a guarantee you will receive an answer from any user you interact with. Loads and loads of users, alive and well but rude people that they are, never respond to answers or requests for clarification. The good thing about the way Stack Overflow is designed is that, differently from, say, Facebook, this doesn't matter as much - anyone else with something meaningful to add can jump in at any moment.
    – Pekka
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:52
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    if a user has been gone for two years, are there really valid edits that have not been made in those two years, that could be made? absolutely. Technologies evolve; a new product or library may have been published; someone may have worked out a solution to a problem in the meantime... that's the whole point of Stack Overflow's editing system.
    – Pekka
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:55
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    There has to be some user-management, even when Q&A is the focus. I'm still not seeing a powerful argument why, though. Deaths of prominent users are arguably a rare exception that can be perfectly handled manually by moderator intervention - something that would probably be needed even if this feature existed.
    – Pekka
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:55
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    Oh well, thanks for the feedback guys.
    – Alexander
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:58
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    A few months ago community updated links in all posts to https.. wonder what would have happened with the lock in place
    – Suraj Rao
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:59
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    @Alexander If you want to have full control over your content, and to prohibit others from making any type of edit to the post ever, then you shouldn't post on SO, because SO's rules specifically indicate that certain types of edits are considered acceptable, and that such edits will be made even if the author doesn't want them to be. Likewise, by posting the content to SO you have licenced the content such that anyone (including SO) is able to publish that content (as long as it's properly cited), meaning you can't demand it be deleted.
    – Servy
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 15:33
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    And of course someone added a revision just now, for some minor style tweaks. I like how they're complaining that a mod rolled back a pointless edit, restoring the question back to its original format (save for one contemporaneous tag edit).
    – user1228
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 16:28
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    In his house on Stack Overflow, dead Aaron Swartz lies coding. That is not dead which can upvoted lie, and with new releases even death may die. Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 16:51
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    @Patrice I'm not sure I can forgive the missed opportunity for a pun there by omitting the second "WILL".
    – Servy
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 17:16
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    @Alexander You've made the false assumption that you can just delete all of your content while you're still alive. You can't. If you try to vandalize your own quality content by deleting it, an automated site processes, or if necessary, a moderator, will stop you. So no bug.
    – Servy
    Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 20:23

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This is a bad idea.

The entire point of Stackoverflow is to focus on the questions and answers, and keeping them relevant through editing, not the users that post them.

I think the usefulness of peer reviewed improvements through editing is an important part of the site, and I don't think just because someone is dead or no longer participates in the site that we should stop doing that. The goal is to always keep the Q/A relevant and as good as possible.

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  • That said, you could protect that specific question from edits, due to historical reasons? Commented Jan 12, 2018 at 13:35

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