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I am new on Stack Overflow and getting used to the platform and community. I have used it a couple of times when I discovered the answer to a question I was struggling with, and for which no answer was available on Stack Overflow.

I do this for two reasons:

  1. SO is simply the place where I tend to look first for answers; and
  2. I would like to avoid someone else wasting time on the same question

But it looks like my way of using Stack Overflow is not being appreciated, because I notice downvotes on some of my posts:

So I was wondering: could I get some advice from the community on how I could improve my use of Stack Overflow?

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    The first link may have been downvoted by someone that doesn't like self-answered questions. The question and answer are of sufficient quality, though. The second link on the other hand, is not much more than a code / error message dump. I'd try to improve it by adding some details, where you can.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 6:23
  • Thanks for these comments.
    – Aditya
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 12:48
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    @Adi: In general, I don't worry about 1 downvote in the presence of upvotes, some downvote appear "randomly" (honestly, I sometimes wonder if people do not simply click on the wrong arrow). I start to worry when I get a second downvote (unless it's otherwise massively upvoted). Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 15:18
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    There are some people on this site who think that self answered questions are "gaming the system". Personally, these two links couldn't prove them more wrong
    – Sammaye
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 21:46
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    @Sammaye, You can't blame them, there'll always be people who think self-answered questions are gaming-the-system. The only way to stop it is to include a direct link to "it is explicitly encouraged to ask and answer your own question" right at the top of each self-answered thread.
    – Pacerier
    Commented Aug 18, 2015 at 13:25
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    You've got 1/10 my rep, more votes on your highest-voted question, and almost as many votes on your highest-voted answer. This definitely doesn't look like the account of someone who has upset the community with their bad use of the site. I think your self-evaluation is overly harsh! Commented Aug 18, 2015 at 20:05
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    @Two-BitAlchemist: He didn't have that many votes on that question / answer before this meta post. He got 379 rep in the last 2 days, as result of the Meta effect.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 5:48
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    Meta-effect in effect. These kind of questions bring nothing to the table. Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 18:06
  • Pity repping does seem to be a trend. I guess I'd rather have that than vengeance/justice downvoting. Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 21:00
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    Regarding self-answered questions, some users (such as myself) find them fine only as long as the question was sincerely asked. A self-answer that appears five seconds after the question was posted is basically using SO as your personal blog. Some questions aren't generalizable to more than a single person (the asker), but if you found the information you needed by yourself, the question won't even benefit that single person. When someone actually runs into a similar problem and can't solve it, they'll ask a question themselves, Just In Time. Let them. Commented Aug 20, 2015 at 0:03
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    And now you've meta-effected yourself several hundred rep points for those blog posts, so you've definitely come out ahead. Commented Aug 20, 2015 at 0:06
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    @Cerbrus - SO should encourage other users to immediately answer a question. Immediate self-answers mean that every other programmer either A) doesn't care about that issue, or B) has managed to solve that issue themselves. At that point, what's the point of that question's presence on SO? Nothing. If, at some point in the future, someone actually encounters that issue and cannot solve it, they can post a question themselves. I don't approve of this sort of preemptive strike. It is, by definition, not needed. Commented Aug 20, 2015 at 4:54
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    And advertising those questions on meta for a ton of meta-effect rep is basically getting people who wouldn't normally care about a post to cancel out the votes of users who actually cared enough to vote, which is not actively encouraged. Commented Aug 20, 2015 at 5:15
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    @TigerhawkT3 To be honest, I'm more annoyed that everyone upvoted these without bothering to investigate whether they were good questions/answers at all. And that the answer saying, "You've done nothing wrong!" has over 100 upvotes when it took me about 15 minutes to identify legitimate problems even when I'm not an expert in any of the technologies. A quick Google search on the error in the second one is all you need to see that not enough research was done (or at the least, wasn't included in the question).
    – jpmc26
    Commented Aug 20, 2015 at 7:15
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    @jpmc26 - Even worse, the impact on this particular user's rep has been enormous, as all their posts besides these self-answers have been two answers with a net of zero votes and one question with a net of -4 votes (duplicate), putting him at 21 rep prior to this. So now, because he complained on meta that people downvoted his poorly-researched blog posts, he has the approximate rep and privileges of a user who's posted one or two dozen good answers. I think people forget that main site votes don't mean "I agree with you on principle" like meta votes do. Commented Aug 20, 2015 at 7:47

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Your use of Stack Overflow is just fine. It's long established that self-answers are a good thing.

From what I can see, both your questions deal with a specific problem, show sufficient effort, clear enough with both the problem and what was tried to solve it, as well as the answers.

So, keep it up. There would always be those who downvote, and some people don't like self-answers for some reason, although it's well established that they're encouraged. Don't let it discourage you.

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    Self-answers are also good, as long as they are detailed. Sometimes I see self-answers that just reveal OP found a typo. Those questions (completely) should be removed. I have answered my own questions, and provided every step to ensure that anyone else with a remotely similar issue can find help from it.
    – user3373470
    Commented Aug 18, 2015 at 13:06
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    Can people who downvote good self-answers please explain why they do this?
    – Persijn
    Commented Aug 18, 2015 at 13:37
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    @Persijn: Don't count on it.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Aug 18, 2015 at 13:38
  • Why they provide self-answers? To benefit those that might land themselves in a similar bind in the future. It will save them a (likely) significant amount of research and a good amount of trial and error. Commented Aug 18, 2015 at 14:12
  • @user2366842 No, why they downvote good self-answers. Commented Aug 18, 2015 at 14:37
  • oh...right. Sorry lack of sleep kicked in. Commented Aug 18, 2015 at 15:37
  • @user2366842 Also, i document the issue for the time time it happens to me :)
    – Andy
    Commented Aug 18, 2015 at 21:14
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    @Persijn Other than the "oh, the problem was related to something else entirely" type of self answers, I find that a good number of self answers are a case of the OP is looking for an excuse to answer a question no one would ever ask. Compare this self answered question to this one
    – cimmanon
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 16:02
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I really hate when people dismiss downvotes so readily. Even if most people wouldn't agree, with most downvote cases, I can (with a little thought) come up with some kind of explanation for what the downvoter might have been thinking.

For the first, my guess is that the answer appears to be a copy/paste of a response you received from a company. Before I say anything else, I'm not certain of how licensing and copyright might affect what content you can and cannot take from the response and place on a StackOverflow answer. Ask another question to get clarification there, and possibly try to obtain permission from the company. Assuming that you can post the content legally, the answer would be much better if you reformulated it into your own words and presented the information directly. Among other problems, the answer as it stands has extra fluff like, "We are working hard on a solution." While I commend you for going to the effort of sharing this information with us, copy/pasting an e-mail response from them without cleaning it up to SO standards is poor style at best.

For the second, I can't come up with much within the answer itself, but Googling for "r install package" plus your error message (LoadLibrary failure: %1 is not a valid Win32 application.) turned up this and this pretty readily. So I suspect this is a common problem and that there's already answers to it floating around. The downvote is probably because the solution to your problem can be found on any number of other answers or websites.

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    Would the downvoter care to explain? I can't see how the issues I raise are illegitimate as problems.
    – jpmc26
    Commented Aug 20, 2015 at 7:13
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    Not me, but your first paragraph sorta missed the mark. People don't dismiss downvotes, but silent downvotes. The reason for that is..... .... well, I think you've just figured it out yourself.
    – Pacerier
    Commented Aug 21, 2015 at 12:17
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Negative votes are caused due to reasons that vary from a wide range like

  1. Spelling mistakes and silly shorthand sms type mistakes like using (i am) instead of (I am), or (u wil b) instead of (you will be)

  2. Grammatical Mistakes and not using capital letter for the first letter of the sentence,

  3. Having technical or logical error in your query.

  4. Less/no effort applied to find your answers.

  5. Less/no effort on the code samples you have provided, etc.

  6. Providing codes in your questions/answers, but not highlighting them using Ctrl+K.

  7. Using Fluffs like "Thanks", "Please, anybody help me", etc.

  8. Begging like "Please, help me. I would be grateful".

  9. You asked something on meta, giving links as reference. By doing so, you have drawn everybody's attention. Embrace yourself because now you will receive more downpour of negative points. That's called "Meta Effect".

  10. Having a question posted, without displaying any optimum amount of effort causes downvotes. This states that you haven't put much effort. As such people will consider you as a "Help Vampire".

  11. Please make some search before posting any question. If any question(already existing) matches your question, people will definitely downvote you because your question will be considered a duplicate one.

  12. Using noise in your questions by making words bold(to highlight or put emphasis on the word) causes more downvotes. If no. of bold words are more, definitely these are considered noise. Less no. of bold words, and they are not considered as noise. Example: See how I use bold words in this answer.

  13. Abusive or rude comments in answers/question.

  14. Don't debate or argue(especially if you have low points) too much. Arguments often can lead to vindictive mentality and people may give you downvotes.

  15. Never complain or ask why you have been downvoted. This will cause more downvotes.

  16. Lastly, all the above stated points happened with me. So I decided to stay silent in any type of issues, if ever happens.
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    "Using noise in your questions by making words bold(to highlight or put emphasis on the word) causes more downvotes." Isn't that ironic?
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 7:25
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    Downvoting because this answer has too much focus on the "Meta" effect, and it's a generic "Questions can be downvoted because of X" post. This answer, especially it's last 2 points, read like the answerer feels he unjustly got downvoted too often.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 7:29
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    It's ironic because you're using bold and italics quite a lot in your answer.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 7:34
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    It's not the number that counts, it's how you use them.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 7:38
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    Still, I just used them to lay emphasis on the needed words. Whatever happens, OP is learning from my mistakes. :)
    – Saswat
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 7:40
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    @Saswat The OP didn't come anywhere near close to making your mistakes.
    – TZHX
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 7:57
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    When did I say OP made the same mistakes? I just stated the reasons. Reasons that have wide range of variety. @TZHX
    – Saswat
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 7:59
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    And that have no relevance to this question. You don't seem to actually be following point 16.
    – TZHX
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 8:01
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    i dont understand why this answer gets so many down votes?, is people tryting to match both post with the same up and down votes?
    – Tim
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 9:14
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    @Tim: Because, as TZHX said, it has no relevance to this question whatsoever - exactly none of these points applies to the question at hand, even if they hold true in general.
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 9:17
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    this is not really an answer that applies to Adi, it seems like just a rant for all YOU feel like you got downvoted for....
    – Patrice
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 14:04
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    Don't debate or argue (especially if you have low points) too much. — I don't understand this mentality. Why would you care about these points when you have your point of view? Argue and let people prove you're wrong and learn from it, or prove you're right using good sources and your logic. Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 15:12
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    @Saswat Well, once you have 50 points (comment anywhere) all the 'facility' you get is really only for moderating the site (the last priveledge being granted at 20k, not 3). It doesn't affect your use of the site
    – TZHX
    Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 17:53
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    Half of these are total rubbish - things like spelling mistakes, bad formatting and general fluff will not get you a non-trivial amount of downvotes. The existence of a duplicate will only get you downvotes if it takes someone less than 10 seconds to find. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing, unless you're being nasty about it or it's about the rules of the site. If you made a decent attempt to try to figure out what's wrong with your question, I doubt you'll get downvotes from posting on Meta. Commented Aug 17, 2015 at 23:59
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    Is it just me or have there been even more down-votes on any other answer here? Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 8:48

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