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4Clojure is a site with exercises which helps learning the Clojure programming language. There are only 40 questions tagged with comparing with over 8000 questions tagged with .

The tag is unambiguous, but it doesn't add any meaningful information to the question. When a question is tagged then adding adds almost no value to the question.

An important question in evaluating a tag is: Can you be an expert in this area? So the answer to "Can you be an expert in 4Clojure?" is: "You can be an expert in 4Clojure questions only if you are expert in Clojure." So the tag is sufficient here. The source of code in a question is not so important to have its own tag. There is no special tag [clojure-in-action] for problems with code examples from book "Clojure in Action".

I have to admit that maybe half from this 40 question tagged is my fault. I am a new user on Stack Overflow, and I edited several old questions adding the or tag. I also improved the tag wiki for this question (which was very short). Now I understand that this was wrong, and I want to start a discussion in this subject.

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    do we delete all tags that are specifically for a certain resource then? The railstutorial.org tag has a LOT of associated questions. Commented Nov 11, 2014 at 4:18
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    Now, let's assuming that being able to filter on a tag is a good thing and that the ability to find what you're after more easily is in fact meaningful. Do you have any argument left?
    – Ben
    Commented Nov 11, 2014 at 7:12
  • See also meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/274845/…
    – davidism
    Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 0:56
  • @sevenseacat: Even if you argue that being able to find all questions inspired by ruby.railstutorial.org would be useful (Remember they must be self-contained!), we have url: for searching. Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 3:33

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Well, consider this, isn't this tag a meta tag? Does it add anything that existing tags don't convey?

Partially, yes: It provides context that the question relates to exercises, and that users who enjoy the and dislikes questions can ignore the tag. It helps filter questions.

On the other hand, no: "4clojure" is not a specific technology. Questions asked that relates to 4clojure exercises themselves, as such the tag doesn't add anything useful that's not already come with "clojure".

Depending on the quality of 4clojure questions, perhaps a cleanup first is more appropiate, then it can be burninated.

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    does this mean that [project-euler] is a meta tag? How is 4clojure that different from project euler?
    – Justin
    Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 0:54
  • I disagree with labeling it a meta tag, I've offered a justification in my answer.
    – Brad Koch
    Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 1:31
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    @Quincunx: Yes. Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 3:30
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I edited all 40 questions removing and correcting many different errors.
So now is
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Next victim will be . See here soon.

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NO, it should not be burninated.

It provides a level of utility, doing several of the things described in the help center:

  • describes the topic of the question
  • sorting questions into specific, well-defined categories
  • connects experts with questions
  • helps you identify questions that are interesting or relevant to you

On meta tags, Jeff's original definition:

There are a few tags on Stack Overflow that have bugged me for a long time. Namely: subjective, best-practices, beginner

How can you tell you’re using a meta-tag? It’s easier than you might think.

  1. If the tag can’t work as the only tag on a question, it’s probably a meta-tag.
  2. If the tag commonly means different things to different people, it’s probably a meta-tag.

This tag looks nothing like those examples - meta tags are so broad and vague that they have no utility. This tag has a clear definition, and a question only about the 4clojure tutorials is on topic because it is about "software tools commonly used by programmers".

provides a level of utility, is not a meta tag, and should not be burninated.

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    How does the fact you found that exercise in $tutorial/book/blog/whatever change the problem? The question must still be self-contained and able to stand on its own. Also, ever seen the url: search-option? Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 3:28
  • It doesn't change the problem. As mentioned, it identifies and groups related questions that may be of interest to you. It's a question of whether keeping the tag is harmful, and removing it would improve the quality of the content. I think the answer to both is no.
    – Brad Koch
    Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 3:32
  • It should also be mentioned that tags have abilities search does not, ie following.
    – Brad Koch
    Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 3:33
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    So, as the tag does not in any way describe the problem, how is that not a meta-tag? And just use your own custom search, browsers have bookmarks for a reason. Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 3:35
  • Changing and describing a problem are two different things. My argument is all about utility anyway, disagree with that instead.
    – Brad Koch
    Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 3:41
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    If it's a good question, it shouldn't matter if it is tagged 4clojure or not. If it's a poor question, it shouldn't matter if it is tagged 4cloure or not. Closing poor questions is a good thing and tags shouldn't be used as excuses for poor quality questions (that are then ignored by the experts and turn into a question ghetto full of crap questions and crap answers).
    – user289086
    Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 3:42
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    You know, both signs for probable meta-tag hold: The tag cannot stand alone, and - at least if 4clojure is useful - they cover many different topics. If it is actually thorough, it will cover all of clojure. Commented Nov 12, 2014 at 4:02

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