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It seems like I'm getting Canadian job recommendations. I'm in Texas, but my laptop's VPN is in Canada. Is it just a coincidence, or are you matching me for jobs using my IP address, rather than my profile information?

PS: I'm not relocating.

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    This was reported quite some time ago. I think they have your info from your profile but they default to your IP Address location. They should prefer the profile first if it is not empty. If its empty use the IP address.
    – JonH
    Commented Oct 16, 2017 at 18:32
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    Right now, we use both the last-login IP address and the locations in your profile for job recommendations. The algorithm does not currently "prefer" either location. Tomorrow, we're discussing changing how that mechanism works, after which I should be able to post a more proper answer to your question.
    – Andrew Staff
    Commented Oct 16, 2017 at 19:51
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    @Andrew: Some feedback for that discussion: 1) Please at least change it so you can opt out of the ip-based method. Serving people ads from country X, when they've explicitly indicated they're only interested in jobs from country Y, benefits neither the employers, users, or SO. It's in fact really annoying. 2) You say both are used, but that seems somewhat broken. On the site, I've never seen job ads for my country. On the "This week's top job matches" emails, I used to get lots of relevant matches in my country until February; after that I've gotten none - they're all in my "ip-country" now Commented Oct 17, 2017 at 1:31
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    Relevant: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/317071/…
    – Tas
    Commented Oct 17, 2017 at 1:47
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    Use a VPN to fake your location... at your real location. [this comment was posted from International Space Station... now where are those NASA ads?]
    – Cœur
    Commented Oct 17, 2017 at 1:52
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    @Andrew There is no matching or it is horribly, horribly broken. The adverts repeatedly suggest countries very far from my profile location and my IP. It wants me to move to other side of a continent and apply to jobs I'm not qualified for, in languages I don't speak.
    – Lundin
    Commented Oct 17, 2017 at 10:54

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We on the Jobs team discussed this issue (among others) today. We will be changing how your location is determined for email purposes soon, in that we will only be using your last-login IP address when you have not specified one or more locations in your job preferences.

Currently, the job-recommendations algorithm for email uses your last-login IP alongside any locations you specify. We had already been discussing how this mechanism might not make sense, citing concerns like yours. So, we'll be changing it.

Note that the algorithm differs for job ads that you see on the site (as opposed to job-related emails). Job ads use your current IP address to help determine which jobs to display. These ads do not (yet) take your job preferences into account — that's on the TODO list, but it has not quite made it to the top of the queue.

Thank you for your feedback! We appreciate hearing from you.

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Believe me, there is absolutely no matching what so ever. Or if there is, whoever wrote it is the most incompetent dev you'll ever meet.

SO does not look where you live or where you might be interested in working. Me and my IP number both live in Sweden. Right now, SO tells me too that I'm probably interested in jobs in Montreal and San Francisco. As well as Austria- the whole advert is in German.

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  • This directly contradicts Andrew's comment stating that we do look at location (profile and last seen IP) for matching. I'm sorry that you feel that we're doing a poor job of that, and we are working to fix it / make it better, but your answer here is just completely incorrect.
    – user50049
    Commented Oct 17, 2017 at 14:22
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    @TimPost I don't feel that you are doing a poor job. Didn't I just say that the site suggests me to move to Canada or go learn German? This isn't the fifth time I point out how horribly buggy this is either, more like the 10th.
    – Lundin
    Commented Oct 17, 2017 at 14:29
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    I'm having trouble reproducing these results with your account. If I look at the jobs we would recommend for you today, they all appear to be in Sweden. If we look at the job ads you would see elsewhere on the site, same thing. So, I'm trying to track down this bug... where exactly are you seeing the bad results? We'd like to fix this issue.
    – Andrew Staff
    Commented Oct 17, 2017 at 16:25
  • @Andrew Just now, I type stackoverflow.com then check the job adverts on the side. screenshots.firefox.com/U42NdCR42nLoNTbF/stackoverflow.com. As you can see, one job in Germany, one in Sweden, one in California (remote) and one in Montreal. In addition to the advert being all over the place, it suggests that I should work with things like Javascript - which I have never written a single line of code in. My participation in some of the tags suggested is next to zero.
    – Lundin
    Commented Oct 18, 2017 at 8:15
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    Man, they finally gave you a job in Sweden, and then you complain it isn't relevant to your expertise? What exactly do you want here?! I have the same problem, by the way. Jobs ads are constantly recommending Javascript and Python jobs to me, even though nothing in my profile suggests that I would be interested in or qualified for these jobs. It happened before I was elected moderator, when I hadn't even visited a question with one of these tags (they've been on my "ignored tags" list since forever). I figure this is just because that's what 90% of the jobs available are.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Oct 18, 2017 at 12:09
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    Thank you for providing the screenshot. Clearly, we have some work to do here. I can at least see how you might have received these jobs, though -- the two farthest from you either allow remote or visa sponsorship. Right now, the ad algorithm doesn't account for whether you would be interested in remote jobs or jobs requiring visa sponsorship, which is something we should address. As for tags, my understanding is that any tag on the job matching a tag in which you are involved is treated as a positive signal for showing the job -- which could also be improved.
    – Andrew Staff
    Commented Oct 18, 2017 at 17:00
  • @CodyGray You describe a scenario that we also need to improve. If the jobs aren't relevant to you, it would be best if we didn't show them even if there are no alternatives. Getting this right is a long process, and we're continually working on it.
    – Andrew Staff
    Commented Oct 18, 2017 at 17:02
  • I see you don't have any job preferences on your profile. Filling those should improve the quality of the jobs we show/send your way significantly.
    – g3rv4 Staff
    Commented Apr 6, 2018 at 18:01
  • @g3rv4 Why are you sending job offers my way if I don't have any preferences set?
    – Lundin
    Commented Apr 9, 2018 at 6:25
  • @Lundin you shouldn't be receiving the email this question is about, since you're opted out from them. Are you receiving those? If you are, please forward me the last one (my email is on my profile) and I'll look into why you got it.
    – g3rv4 Staff
    Commented Apr 9, 2018 at 12:26
  • @g3rv4 This was posted in October (before email was live?) and referred to the on-site adverts. Ok so "sending" was the wrong word, why are you displaying irrelevant job adverts on the main site is more accurate.
    – Lundin
    Commented Apr 9, 2018 at 12:39
  • @Lundin you can't opt-out of ads, but I'd recommend you using an ad blocker if you don't want to see them. Also, if you set your preferences to "not interested in jobs", then you won't see job recommendations on your profile either. If you were interested in jobs, I'd strongly recommend setting your preferences so that you get better matches.
    – g3rv4 Staff
    Commented Apr 9, 2018 at 12:42
  • @g3rv4 I have an ad blocker. Anyway, the point here is: the site is displaying completely irrelevant adverts.
    – Lundin
    Commented Apr 9, 2018 at 12:43
  • @Lundin yes, if you don't have job preferences, the quality of the recommendations is pretty bad.
    – g3rv4 Staff
    Commented Apr 9, 2018 at 12:45
  • @g3rv4 To prove you wrong, I just now set some preferences and one single location. So far the job suggestions in the advert remain just as horrible as before. Maybe it is because of caching, we'll see in a few hours...
    – Lundin
    Commented Apr 9, 2018 at 12:51

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