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I posted a question, and it got downvoted within seconds with no comment. Was my question a terrible one or violating the FAQ? I didn't think so when I asked it, and I only asked it after an honest effort to find the answer in the documentation of the library I'm using.

I'm not mad that I was downvoted. Maybe there is some perspective I didn't have, and my question was indeed a poor-quality question. But there really isn't a way for me to know because the downvoter simply downvoted and moved along.

Basically I'm posting now because I'm wondering, would it make sense to make downvotes free if the downvoter leaves a comment on why they're downvoting? This way people are incentivized to give feedback which improves the user experience and trains them to produce better quality posts in the future.

Please realize that this question is unlike a lot of similar posts on the topic for the following reasons:

  1. I am not suggesting we force people to leave comments. They could still downvote and lose their reputation points if they choose to. Downvotes as they are today would continue unimpeded.
  2. I am making it easier for people who want to downvote, but I don't want to lose the reputation points. If anything, this will encourage more downvotes.
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    and what about downvoting the question and upvoting an existing comment on that? Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 19:41
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    I actually think this is a superior idea to the constant "require downvotes" idea. Still seems prone to abuse as Servy's comment shows. Also, downvotes on questions are always free. Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 19:42
  • Remember you civics class. The right to not disclose why you voted is a self-evident and unalienable right in a democracy. Such a right cannot be surrendered in a social contract, that corrupts the system. Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 19:53
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    @HansPassant - unfortunately you're only considering the voting for elected officials - the votes cast by those officials (arguably much more important) are public in most cases for very important reasons. And, again, I'm not trying to change current downvotes. I'm simply suggesting a way to provide an incentive for someone to take the time to leave constructive criticism.
    – Dave
    Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 20:00
  • @Louis - yes, I would say that is a dupe. I did make an effort to find anything which may have covered this topic. I'll close it out.
    – Dave
    Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 20:02
  • You're talking about a downvote on your question, but downvotes on questions are already free. Commented Jun 5, 2015 at 8:30

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Also, you only lose 1 reputation when downvoting an answer. Downvotes on questions are already free.

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  • You're right - that is a good point I hadn't considered.
    – Dave
    Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 19:49
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You're right that this is different from the typical "force people to leave down-votes" requests but it still doesn't get around the problem of people leaving nonsense comments. How does it help anyone if someone comments "aldkjfalsdjfa;d" after down-voting? How would we prevent it without increasing the moderation load on the site?

I still don't see this resulting in anything other than more noise that has to get dealt with.

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    You're absolutely right that it wouldn't - but even in that case it forces the downvoter to sacrifice their anonymity so you would at least know if you were downvoted by someone who knew what they were talking about.
    – Dave
    Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 19:42
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    @Dave So why is that a good thing? We want downvotes to be anonymous. We don't want them to lose their anonymity. And then there's all the times that someone only downvotes, and someone else comments to explain without downvoting, and the author assumes the commentor downvoted. It'd make those types of situations far more likely.
    – Servy
    Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 19:43
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    @Dave - Anonymous voting is not a problem that needs to be solved.
    – BSMP
    Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 19:43
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    @servy - it would be easier to accept a downvote and you'd be quicker to accept a downvote and, as a user, you'd be more likely to internalize it properly if you knew the downvoter was more reputable than most users.
    – Dave
    Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 19:46
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    @Dave but we shouldn't look at the poster, but the post itself.... why should it be different for comments?
    – Patrice
    Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 19:47
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    @Dave I don't see why that'd be the case at all. Anecdotally, I don't see users who know (or think they know) who downvoted them accepting the downvotes as being valid criticisms any more than those who don't have any idea who vote don their post.
    – Servy
    Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 19:48
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    At @BSMP - I'm not trying to solve anonymous voting and, like you, I don't think it is even a problem. Just suggesting an incentive for people to leave proactive criticism (or, at the very least out themselves).
    – Dave
    Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 19:58
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    @Dave you specifically stated in your first comment to this answer that this is going to be reducing anonymity, and seem to feel that that is somehow a good thing, or a goal of the request. If you don't think that anonymity is a problem, then why are you proposing a feature that tries so hard to get rid of it?
    – Servy
    Commented Jun 4, 2015 at 20:16
  • @Servy Why do you love to anonym downvoting? Your profile the same. No one can know anything of you. But you downvote (anytime) anybody if you think so. Without any explanation. If you reduces anybody reputation, the minimum to explain the reason.
    – The Bitman
    Commented Mar 28, 2017 at 11:32
  • @TheBitman Since you don't have much of any experience with the site, you clearly aren't familiar with what actually happens when people comment when downvoting. It typically makes things worse, and rather rarely ends up creating constructive discussions. The drama and problems it causes tends to be rather significant. And that's currently happening only with people that choose to comment; what do you think would happen if you started requiring it, or heavily incentivising it? It would either make those problems much worse, or prevent people from downvoting bad content (or both).
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 28, 2017 at 13:14
  • @Servy But you can understand the initial raising : how the poster correct his/hes question if s/he has no information about the ideas behind the downvote(s)?
    – The Bitman
    Commented Mar 28, 2017 at 13:34
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    @TheBitman The vast majority of people don't correct their posts even when they are told what's wrong with it. And anyway, the purpose of the downvote is to provide feedback on the quality of the post. If the author uses that feedback to improve the post, that's great, but the downvote is accomplishing its primary function regardless, namely informing future readers of the quality of the post.
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 28, 2017 at 13:36
  • I think the correct way for downvoting : (1) leave a comment. (2) if the owner of the question does not correct/not answer appropriately, the downvote is right.
    – The Bitman
    Commented Mar 28, 2017 at 13:36
  • OK. But as many good quality post as possible is the interest of everybody. And the good quality comments can promote this goal.
    – The Bitman
    Commented Mar 28, 2017 at 13:40
  • The only point I see here is the "asfgasv" response to a required comment for down vote. I do believe that it may be partly mitigated by not allowing down votes on questions where the down voter has not earned enough rep on a tag attached to the question. I don't want to point to moderator abuse or reviewer abuse, but blatantly flying through questions down voting does no good in helping to improve question quality. One could argue that the down vote is acting to that end, but I just read on similar post, a question was closed in less than 2 mins and never made it to triage. Not good.
    – htm11h
    Commented Dec 20, 2017 at 20:22

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