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So there's already been a lot of great ground covered, and while the OP has posted an answer defending their actions, this gets back to the root of why people so desperately want to turn to AI to help them with their questions.

People want their questions answered.

That's it. That's the whole point of this.

People just want to get an answer to their question. They're stuck somewhere and they want their question answered. They don't have the patience for the prose or the rules or the structure or the ceremony or any of that B.S. we put in front of them They don't have the patience for the prose or the rules or the structure or the ceremony or any of that B.S. we put in front of them, since it's a barrier to getting their question answered.

The flip side to this is that people want to help people. I could point to this infamous diagram as a quick reference - or the wall on which the writing was plastered on originally - but this is and will continue to be the nature of how Q&A functions.

Someone has a question. Someone wants to answer.

The obvious problems are:

  • Skill gap in both directions - someone who doesn't really know what they're asking about may not benefit from or value the help we give them, and we haven't even begun to speak about someone who's just spouting incorrect nonsense in their answers
  • Abandoning ceremony - our rules, either spoken or unspoken, can always be distilled to someone asking a question that is clear and has enough information in it to either be answered or closed as a duplicate
  • Stigma of downvotes and closure - no one likes being told that they're bad or that they didn't search well enough, but both of these things exist to help the community-at-large with determining if a question is good or if an answer is helpful the company build products and services on top of Stack Overflow's reputation alone

So is this kind of style OK? An OP uses an AI-based answer and then provides human context to it?

Hell no!

The biggest and most glaring issue is that it fails its noble intent - by providing incomplete, bad or wrong information, you do not help anyone. It can be compounded by giving someone bad information in a niche technology in which the subject matter experts are scarce and cannot provide timely correction.

There's also the matter of being able to republish what you post. If you don't own it, or don't have permission to share it, you can't contribute it under CC-by-SA. (This is also one of many reasons why people scramble to delete otherwise sensible-looking questions because they didn't have the permission from their employer to post it.)

All that noise about how this is gonna lead to the death of Stack Overflow or how it's "inevitable" is just that - noise. Ain't nothing stopping people who desire an AI-driven experience from just building their own damn site and flooding it with AI-based answers. Problem is that they know that it's not going to be practical since there's no one around to ensure that they're actually doing the right thing. At best this means that someone copies broken code into their project, and at worst this makes its way into our banking systems. I can only hope that we who are employed enforce stringent and rigorous code reviews to be sure that things like this don't gravely impact us.

sighs in human

So there's already been a lot of great ground covered, and while the OP has posted an answer defending their actions, this gets back to the root of why people so desperately want to turn to AI to help them with their questions.

People want their questions answered.

That's it. That's the whole point of this.

People just want to get an answer to their question. They're stuck somewhere and they want their question answered. They don't have the patience for the prose or the rules or the structure or the ceremony or any of that B.S. we put in front of them, since it's a barrier to getting their question answered.

The flip side to this is that people want to help people. I could point to this infamous diagram as a quick reference - or the wall on which the writing was plastered on originally - but this is and will continue to be the nature of how Q&A functions.

Someone has a question. Someone wants to answer.

The obvious problems are:

  • Skill gap in both directions - someone who doesn't really know what they're asking about may not benefit from or value the help we give them, and we haven't even begun to speak about someone who's just spouting incorrect nonsense in their answers
  • Abandoning ceremony - our rules, either spoken or unspoken, can always be distilled to someone asking a question that is clear and has enough information in it to either be answered or closed as a duplicate
  • Stigma of downvotes and closure - no one likes being told that they're bad or that they didn't search well enough, but both of these things exist to help the community-at-large with determining if a question is good or if an answer is helpful the company build products and services on top of Stack Overflow's reputation alone

So is this kind of style OK? An OP uses an AI-based answer and then provides human context to it?

Hell no!

The biggest and most glaring issue is that it fails its noble intent - by providing incomplete, bad or wrong information, you do not help anyone. It can be compounded by giving someone bad information in a niche technology in which the subject matter experts are scarce and cannot provide timely correction.

There's also the matter of being able to republish what you post. If you don't own it, or don't have permission to share it, you can't contribute it under CC-by-SA. (This is also one of many reasons why people scramble to delete otherwise sensible-looking questions because they didn't have the permission from their employer to post it.)

All that noise about how this is gonna lead to the death of Stack Overflow or how it's "inevitable" is just that - noise. Ain't nothing stopping people who desire an AI-driven experience from just building their own damn site and flooding it with AI-based answers. Problem is that they know that it's not going to be practical since there's no one around to ensure that they're actually doing the right thing. At best this means that someone copies broken code into their project, and at worst this makes its way into our banking systems. I can only hope that we who are employed enforce stringent and rigorous code reviews to be sure that things like this don't gravely impact us.

sighs in human

So there's already been a lot of great ground covered, and while the OP has posted an answer defending their actions, this gets back to the root of why people so desperately want to turn to AI to help them with their questions.

People want their questions answered.

That's it. That's the whole point of this.

People just want to get an answer to their question. They're stuck somewhere and they want their question answered. They don't have the patience for the prose or the rules or the structure or the ceremony or any of that B.S. we put in front of them, since it's a barrier to getting their question answered.

The flip side to this is that people want to help people. I could point to this infamous diagram as a quick reference - or the wall on which the writing was plastered on originally - but this is and will continue to be the nature of how Q&A functions.

Someone has a question. Someone wants to answer.

The obvious problems are:

  • Skill gap in both directions - someone who doesn't really know what they're asking about may not benefit from or value the help we give them, and we haven't even begun to speak about someone who's just spouting incorrect nonsense in their answers
  • Abandoning ceremony - our rules, either spoken or unspoken, can always be distilled to someone asking a question that is clear and has enough information in it to either be answered or closed as a duplicate
  • Stigma of downvotes and closure - no one likes being told that they're bad or that they didn't search well enough, but both of these things exist to help the community-at-large with determining if a question is good or if an answer is helpful the company build products and services on top of Stack Overflow's reputation alone

So is this kind of style OK? An OP uses an AI-based answer and then provides human context to it?

Hell no!

The biggest and most glaring issue is that it fails its noble intent - by providing incomplete, bad or wrong information, you do not help anyone. It can be compounded by giving someone bad information in a niche technology in which the subject matter experts are scarce and cannot provide timely correction.

There's also the matter of being able to republish what you post. If you don't own it, or don't have permission to share it, you can't contribute it under CC-by-SA. (This is also one of many reasons why people scramble to delete otherwise sensible-looking questions because they didn't have the permission from their employer to post it.)

All that noise about how this is gonna lead to the death of Stack Overflow or how it's "inevitable" is just that - noise. Ain't nothing stopping people who desire an AI-driven experience from just building their own damn site and flooding it with AI-based answers. Problem is that they know that it's not going to be practical since there's no one around to ensure that they're actually doing the right thing. At best this means that someone copies broken code into their project, and at worst this makes its way into our banking systems. I can only hope that we who are employed enforce stringent and rigorous code reviews to be sure that things like this don't gravely impact us.

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sighs in human

So there's already been a lot of great ground covered, and while the OP has posted an answer defending their actions, this gets back to the root of why people so desperately want to turn to AI to help them with their questions.

People want their questions answered.

That's it. That's the whole point of this.

People just want to get an answer to their question. They're stuck somewhere and they want their question answered. They don't have the patience for the prose or the rules or the structure or the ceremony or any of that B.S. we put in front of them, since it's a barrier to getting their question answered.

The flip side to this is that people want to help people. I could point to this infamous diagram as a quick reference - or the wall on which the writing was plastered on originally - but this is and will continue to be the nature of how Q&A functions.

Someone has a question. Someone wants to answer.

The obvious problems are:

  • Skill gap in both directions - someone who doesn't really know what they're asking about may not benefit from or value the help we give them, and we haven't even begun to speak about someone who's just spouting incorrect nonsense in their answers
  • Abandoning ceremony - our rules, either spoken or unspoken, can always be distilled to someone asking a question that is clear and has enough information in it to either be answered or closed as a duplicate
  • Stigma of downvotes and closure - no one likes being told that they're bad or that they didn't search well enough, but both of these things exist to help the community-at-large with determining if a question is good or if an answer is helpful the company build products and services on top of Stack Overflow's reputation alone

So is this kind of style OK? An OP uses an AI-based answer and then provides human context to it?

Hell no!

The biggest and most glaring issue is that it fails its noble intent - by providing incomplete, bad or wrong information, you do not help anyone. It can be compounded by giving someone bad information in a niche technology in which the subject matter experts are scarce and cannot provide timely correction.

There's also the matter of being able to republish what you post. If you don't own it, or don't have permission to share it, you can't contribute it under CC-by-SA. (This is also one of many reasons why people scramble to delete otherwise sensible-looking questions because they didn't have the permission from their employer to post it.)

All that noise about how this is gonna lead to the death of Stack Overflow or how it's "inevitable" is just that - noise. Ain't nothing stopping people who desire an AI-driven experience from just building their own damn site and flooding it with AI-based answers. Problem is that they know that it's not going to be practical since there's no one around to ensure that they're actually doing the right thing. At best this means that someone copies broken code into their project, and at worst this makes its way into our banking systems. I can only hope that we who are employed enforce stringent and rigorous code reviews to be sure that things like this don't gravely impact us.